TOS Leveling Ships

samt1996

Any clue as to what the TOS leveling ships are? I really hope they don't use the normal FED ones...

orondis

At the moment there are only two for Lieutenant. Pioneer class and the C-store Constitution class. No info on the others, other than the c-store ships they've told us about.

voyagerfan9751

orondis wrote: »

At the moment there are only two for Lieutenant. Pioneer class and the C-store Constitution class. No info on the others, other than the c-store ships they've told us about.

My guess is, since they seem to be testing pieces at a time, that we will see more leveling ships as the testing continues. I don't forsee us using 25th century ships for these characters at this point in time. Just as it can be argued it doesn't make sense to have an old 23rd century ship running round (aka t6 Connie) in 2410, Having a 2410 ship running around the 23rd century would probably raise a few eyebrows

tehibris

I think they're going to pull us into the 24th century pretty quick, looking at the mission list - five TOS-era missions (plus the welcome to ESD thing), then straight on with Klingon War (and the first mission of that has been altered to be a "welcome to life as a temporal agent" thing, so it's not just that they've not edited it yet).

aeonjean

Assuming we get as much content as LoR, we should get three full story arcs at least out before we're put into any of the main story arcs.

jaturnley

If you look at the XP bar, there are TOS ranks listed all the way up to TOS Fleet Admiral. I think it's safe to say there will be plenty of content for this faction.

gpgtx

The whole mission jernoul right now could be a place holder.

LoR was the same way at first only showing the first arc then going to the first fed mission

teknesia

tehibris wrote: »

I think they're going to pull us into the 24th century pretty quick, looking at the mission list - five TOS-era missions (plus the welcome to ESD thing), then straight on with Klingon War (and the first mission of that has been altered to be a "welcome to life as a temporal agent" thing, so it's not just that they've not edited it yet).

Probably not. They've already started talking about Chekov coming from the Enterprise B era at one point when you meet him, which to me, at least, kinda hints towards each set of missions being from a different time period.

nikeix

Is the Pioneer different from the Ranger?

jonathanlonehawk

Anyone have a screenshot of the TOS ship weapons (if you get to your ship) and can post 'em here? Mainly interested in The info on the Torpedoes.

aeonjean

jaturnley wrote: »

If you look at the XP bar, there are TOS ranks listed all the way up to TOS Fleet Admiral. I think it's safe to say there will be plenty of content for this faction.

I don't ranks are a good indicator of content. Using the LoR as an example, after doing the base Romulan story and swapping to the Fed/KDF storylines my rank didn't become Fed/KDF ranks. They stayed Romulan.

bergins

I was surprised last night to enter ESD orbit and see a Ferengi D'Kora. Then I looked around and saw several other ships that just shouldn't be there. I'm assuming that, as higher tier ships get introduced, their models will replace the models we see currently.

jaturnley

gpgtx wrote: »

The whole mission jernoul right now could be a place holder.

LoR was the same way at first only showing the first arc then going to the first fed mission

I'd believe that if there wasn't already custom art in there. Unless they plan to have two separate "Starfleet" entities after the merge, it makes no sense to call the items in the tree something different if there isn't going to be TOS/TMP/TWOK era progression to 60.

aeonjean wrote: »

jaturnley wrote: »

If you look at the XP bar, there are TOS ranks listed all the way up to TOS Fleet Admiral. I think it's safe to say there will be plenty of content for this faction.

I don't ranks are a good indicator of content. Using the LoR as an example, after doing the base Romulan story and swapping to the Fed/KDF storylines my rank didn't become Fed/KDF ranks. They stayed Romulan.

They have a romulan progression all the way to 60 because you are a romulan all the way to 60. If you are a TOS starfleet officer and move 200 years to the future, you aren't going to be given your promotions by your leaders from 200 years in the past, and hence wouldn't be a "TOS Fleet Admiral" anymore, you'd be a normal Starfleet Fleet Admiral.

jaturnley

jonathanlonehawk wrote: »

Anyone have a screenshot of the TOS ship weapons (if you get to your ship) and can post 'em here? Mainly interested in The info on the Torpedoes.

The weapons are exactly the same as the regular Mk I weapons. The phasers are called banks instead of arrays (just like the ones already in the game from the T1 Connie), but the stats are the same.

nikeix wrote: »

Is the Pioneer different from the Ranger?

They are different ships.

Pioneer:



Ranger:

evilmark444

I'm hoping one of the leveling ships is a TOS miranda

nikeix

Thank you . I'm quietly hoping the Ranger Battlecruiser is built on the "Battlecruiser" rig used by the Avenger and Arbiter. I'd love to kitbash the three of them (and use the poor, lonely VATA console on the result).

alcmaeonidae

There's no reason to think any free tier 2 thru 5 TOS ships exist. It looks like we get a short arc called "Agents of Yesteryear", then go to the 25th century. Read the summary the AoY arc itself gives: "Leave the 23rd century to explore a strange new frontier - time itself. Join forces with the Temporal Agents and preserve the timeline." The key words are LEAVE THE 23RD CENTURY. You're not staying.

After the 6 mission AoY arc you go to the 25th century. The first mission in the Klingon War arc, and introduction to the 25th century ESD, says the following "Welcome to Earth Spacedock. Find out about your new assignment as a temporal agent." That's it. You are assigned to the 25th century.

I don't see what qualifies this as an expansion, other than bundling a bunch of items together and charging $129.99 for them.

jaturnley

Considering none of that is even in the files that are out there so far (which the RE guys have already dug through), literally every word you just typed completely unsubstantiated. I don't understand the need that people like you have to spread lies that nobody even believes, but if you want to waste your time writing it, we obviously can't stop you. All we can do is call you out and make you look like a crazy person.

alcmaeonidae

jaturnley wrote: »

Considering none of that is even in the files that are out there so far (which the RE guys have already dug through), literally every word you just typed completely unsubstantiated. I don't understand the need that people like you have to spread lies that nobody even believes, but if you want to waste your time writing it, we obviously can't stop you. All we can do is call you out and make you look like a crazy person.

No need to dig through any files to see what I've quoted. Just bring up an AOY character, open the episode list, and make sure you have the Agents of Yesterday arc tab highlighted. You can see the section I quoted right above the individual missions.

CONSIDER. THAT. SUBSTANTIATED.

This is obviously something you have not done. And yet you feel confident in saying people who don't agree with you "spread lies".

thutmosis85

Yeah sorry it's all there on Tribble you just have to read it ... I guess you could still hope that they'll "squeeze in" a few TOS-Missions "in between" ... but fact remains that you're (mostly) just going to replay the same old content as "Temporal Agent" with slightly different Mission Description ( -> again just read it on Tribble) & probably new "Dialogue Options" ... see "Delta Recruits" ...

To make it simple : If the current Mission Arcs would just be Placeholders for other hypothetical TOS-Story-Arcs ... there would be no need to specifically adress you as "TEMPORAL AGENT" within them ...

jaturnley

You're making assumptions that the items there aren't copy/pasted as placeholders - the LoR playtest had stuff like that in the tree as well to prevent spoilers before they made announcements on the news page. Not saying you can't be wrong, but it's REALLY early to be assuming that text only stuff in the interface is final. We know from experience that they don't attach art to things before they are pretty far into development, but text stuff is easy to change as they roll out more things.

That being said, we know for a fact right now that at some point we do the Devidians arc (since Scotty and McCoy recognize us). There would be no reason to jump us over to the existing storyline before that point since the entire klingon war arc is tutorial stuff for the most part. The last mission in the AoY list is Procyon V, so obviously we get to move to time travel before we hit level 10. There's some merit to the belief that we are jumping into the existing missions after that.

HOWEVER - that does not mean that we are jumping into the tree as a regular Fed. Once again, look back at LoR. The mission order was not 1:1 with any other faction. After 15 or so missions, they mixed in things from the existing arc, then went back to new content (some of which was later tweaked into the existing Fed/KDF progression, replacing older missions - which we know they are tweaking again for the console launch), and then entered the main story at around level 30. In other words, there's a lot of evidence that the progression in there is a placeholder still. Freaking out about how little content this expansion brings is premature.