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sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
For the past few months, I have been working on the Speed and Turn Rate Formulae on Tribble. However, with all of the extra things that add speed and turn bonuses, it has turned into a calculator. Well, I have finished it and it is ready to share. Link is below.

Special Thanks goes to @adamkafei, for helping with early testing (and putting up with my constant messaging), and to @dabelgrave, for pointing me towards truncated values, which turned out to be quite important.

This calculator is as accurate as I could make it, while trying to keep it simple.

There are a few things that can throw off the accuracy of this calculator. The first being, anything that relies on a specific Power Level. The Power Levels displayed in game only show whole numbers. A displayed Engine Power of 80, could actually be anywhere between 80 to 80.99. It does not appear to apply to a displayed Engine Power of 125. While this does not appear to affect the result of the Turn Rate that much (if at all, I did not see any difference), the ship's Speed is affected more by it. This also affects Attack Pattern Omega, which derives it's boost from the ship's Engine Power; and also Auxliary to Dampers, which uses Auxiliary Power to determine its boost.

Also, I have found that some ships do not have the Impulse Modifier that they are reputed to have. Example 1: The Breen Heavy Raider does not have an Impulse Modifier of 0.21, but actually 0.15. Example 2: The Ferengi Na'Far has an Impulse Modifier of 0.22 and not 0.25. Example 3, the Light Cruiser, allegedly has an Impulse Modifier of 0.17, but it is actually 0.15. There are too many ships that I do not have access to, to verify every single one. I did post about it in the Bugs section of the official forums.

And finally, good old mystic math that Cryptic uses. There are variables used, that I am unsure of how Cryptic handles certain things. For example, some values are rounded up and some are rounded down. For example, Attack Pattern Omega is based on Engine Power; I have yet to have been able to figure out how exactly that bonus is derived.

Missing Information:
I do not have access to the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set. If you use either of these sets, and have the inclination, please let me know which Category boost they belong to. I have purposely created entry slots at the bottom of the calculator for the explicit purpose of testing new equipment or traits that may introduce new speed or turn bonuses.

Crafted, Reputation, and Mission Reward Engines
I have gone through all the Reputation, Crafted, and Mission Reward Engines, and derived their Speed and Turn Bonuses from the stats displayed and testing those engines on Tribble. There is a section in the calculator that will pull up the Engine type, Speed Mods, and Turn Mods.

https://dropbox.com/s/nketo0gcd5ggmpf/Speed%20and%20Turn%20Calculator.xlsx?dl=0
"I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."

Comments

  • dabelgravedabelgrave Member Posts: 979 Arc User
    I played around with it tonight. Just guessing most of my stuff, the numbers were pretty close to what I had ingame. Great work!
    :)​​
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Thank you, I am working on making it more accurate. As it stands now, there appears to be a discrepancy between the Engine's listed Flight Speed, the Flight Speed displayed on the character sheet, and the Flight Speed shown in the Throttle. For example, a Mk VI Impulse Engine on a ship with a 0.2 Impulse Modifier has a 12.2 Flight Speed on the Engine's display, which should come out to 17.2 at 50 Engine Power at full throttle. On the character sheet, the Flight Speed is displayed as 17.22; and on the Throttle, it is displayed as 17.21. All at 50 Engine Power and no skills, traits, or gear (except for the engine itself).
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to the Calculator:
    Fixed an error that neglected to factor in the Molecular Phase Inversion Field console ability.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    Excellent work..Now how to link this to the Sto wiki..

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to the Calculator:
    Added the Speed and Turn bonus from the Temporal Warfare, 3 piece set ability.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Excellent work..Now how to link this to the Sto wiki..

    Thank you, any linking is fully encouraged, not that it permission is necessary.

    Still looking for someone to send me or post the Categories for the Expedited Delivery Set and the Command Platforms Set, so I can add them to the Calculator.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to the Calculator:
    Added Pilot Team.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    Link added to impulse expertise on the sto wiki...I had no idea there were so many things that could change turn or impulse speed..Nice work.

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Link added to impulse expertise on the sto wiki...I had no idea there were so many things that could change turn or impulse speed..Nice work.

    Thanks, I was surprised as well. Though not as much as the list I was accumulating for my companion Power Calculator, now that is a huge list.

    Just FYI: Noticed that the Expedited Delivery Set and the Command Platforms Set are missing on that page. Also the Temporal Rift Stabilizer console (from the Paradox) adds to the Turn Rate, but it is currently bugged and not adding anything.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Link added to impulse expertise on the sto wiki...I had no idea there were so many things that could change turn or impulse speed..Nice work.

    Thanks, I was surprised as well. Though not as much as the list I was accumulating for my companion Power Calculator, now that is a huge list.

    Just FYI: Noticed that the Expedited Delivery Set and the Command Platforms Set are missing on that page. Also the Temporal Rift Stabilizer console (from the Paradox) adds to the Turn Rate, but it is currently bugged and not adding anything.

    Added. Ty.

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Again, if anyone wishes to contribute the data for the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set, please send me a message with it.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Again, if anyone wishes to contribute the data for the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set, please send me a message with it.

    Isnt that information in the wiki?

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Again, if anyone wishes to contribute the data for the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set, please send me a message with it.

    Isnt that information in the wiki?

    Yes and no. The numbers are, but not where they fall into the calculator. I could easily put them in category 1 or 2, but would have no way of verfiying if either one would be correct.

    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Again, if anyone wishes to contribute the data for the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set, please send me a message with it.

    Isnt that information in the wiki?

    Yes and no. The numbers are, but not where they fall into the calculator. I could easily put them in category 1 or 2, but would have no way of verfiying if either one would be correct.

    SO..I have one of the sets..how can I help?

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to Calculator
    Added the Battle Module 3000 Battle Mode ability, which provides a turn rate bonus
    Fixed a Typo
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Again, if anyone wishes to contribute the data for the Expedited Delivery Set or the Command Platforms Set, please send me a message with it.

    Isnt that information in the wiki?

    Yes and no. The numbers are, but not where they fall into the calculator. I could easily put them in category 1 or 2, but would have no way of verfiying if either one would be correct.

    SO..I have one of the sets..how can I help?

    Go in game and record the turn rate displayed when using whichever set you are using, use my Calculator and enter in the information you used for the test (i.e. Engine Power, engine information, consoles, boff abilities, etc), then at the bottom enter in the turn bonus from the set into the Untested Category 1 Turn Bonus field and write down the final result, and then clear the Untested Category 1 Turn Bonus field and enter the Turn Bonus into the Untested Category 2 Turn Bonus field and write down the final result. Afterwards, either post the result here or send me a personal message (here) with the results. One of the results should match what you saw ingame. Once I have verification of the Category of the bonus, I will add it to the Calculator.

    While I believe that both of the sets will be Category 1 bonuses, I don't want to add them until I get verification.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to Calculator

    Added the Chroniton Weapon proc.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Update to the Calculator

    Added the Thrust Mod
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Update to the Calculator

    Added the Thrust Mod
    Will the Proc from the Temporal defense weapons count?

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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Update to the Calculator

    Added the Thrust Mod
    Will the Proc from the Temporal defense weapons count?

    Those are the Chroniton Weapons that are on the calculator. Unlike the Thrust mod, the proc from the Chroniton Weapons stack.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
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