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Is there a good reason why the KDF T6 Flagships lack the Attract Fire cruiser command?

rakhonarakhona Member Posts: 21 Arc User
in Klingon Discussion
Attract Fire is an important part of playing a threat-based Tank in a ship with a Warp Core, and it's with dismay that I note that the Tier 6 KDF Flagships are still subscribed to the outdated design choice that leaves them without AF as a cruiser command.

While there are Lockbox and Lobi options for playing a KDF tank, I'd really hoped to use the Gorkon as a native KDF platform in the same way that many of my peers have been using the Science Odyssey and intend to use the Yorktown. The lack of AF means I'd be no use as a tank in Hive Space Elite.

So other than "that's how we designed the ships four years ago" what's the thinking behind another set of KDF ships without Attract Fire?

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    It's the rules. Battlecruisers don't have Attract Fire.

    Then again, they showed a lot of flexibility with the rules regarding the console setups across the board on all flagships of each faction. But battlecruisers are not really meant to tank - then again, they have the highest HP of the bunch which also doesn't make sense, usually Battlecruisers sacrifice hull for offensive power. Yeah, those ships really are a bit wonky.​​
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  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    Like the Arbiter/Avenger, they're considered Battlecruisers, which don't have that as part of their toolkit. As above, they're unusual battlecruisers in that they have such strong hulls and poor maneuvering.
  • rakhonarakhona Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    It's the rules. Battlecruisers don't have Attract Fire.

    Apart from the Command Battlecruisers (which have the same Battlecruiser Starship Ability Package as all other Battlecruisers) so the old "they just don't" argument makes even less sense than it has done for the past four years.

  • freakiumfreakium Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    Cryptic's just following their older design choices. KDF Battlecruisers aren't full on cruisers and thus sacrifice the attract fire ability for the ability to strap on cannons which, at the time, was more powerful than beams.
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  • narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    rakhona wrote: »
    Apart from the Command Battlecruisers (which have the same Battlecruiser Starship Ability Package as all other Battlecruisers) so the old "they just don't" argument makes even less sense than it has done for the past four years.

    Actually the Command Battlecruisers follow Flight Deck Cruiser rules, Shileds and AF bu6t no Manouverability or -Weapon drain
  • rakhonarakhona Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    narthais wrote: »
    Actually the Command Battlecruisers follow Flight Deck Cruiser rules, Shileds and AF bu6t no Manouverability or -Weapon drain

    They have FDC Cruiser Commands, but their Starship Mastery package is actually (as previously noted) the Battlecruiser package not the FDC package.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    The way the system was originally made did not have Starship Traits/Mastery Packages when they were implemented. So what angrytarg said about Battlecruisers getting X Cruiser Commands, Regular Cruisers got all 4, and FDCs just suck, it still holds water.
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    tobiashirt wrote: »
    ...As above, they're unusual battlecruisers in that they have such strong hulls and poor maneuvering.

    This is why I don't want to buy one. I do, because they look neat...but I don't because they maneuver like lead balloons. I may hold off and wait for a T6 Vor'cha.
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  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    goodscotch wrote: »
    tobiashirt wrote: »
    ...As above, they're unusual battlecruisers in that they have such strong hulls and poor maneuvering.

    This is why I don't want to buy one. I do, because they look neat...but I don't because they maneuver like lead balloons. I may hold off and wait for a T6 Vor'cha.

    Or a D7 3 pack? Please?
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