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So I think I have a good build but I'm not sure and I'd like feedback. I tried PVP against other people.. Like.. 7 other people, two times I barely won and the rest I was just instantly blown up and destroyed within seconds without doing ANY damage to the attacker. lol.
I'm not very good with how Star Trek Online works in the terms of.. Builds but this time I worked very hard to get stuff and I tried to do research and stuff. So I'd like some comment and feedback!
Here's a closer look at the items equipped!
I'm not very good with how Star Trek Online works in the terms of.. Builds but this time I worked very hard to get stuff and I tried to do research and stuff. So I'd like some comment and feedback!
Here's a closer look at the items equipped!
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2. get the romulan and omega universal consoles and replace your armour with them
3. make sure your power settings are set to weapons
What are the Romulan and Omega consoles?
Also all my attempts to remove armour, even only 1 console leads to the term of NPC's constantly blowing me up with no issues. The shields seem to play no role. I even tried changing shields but the NPC's can blow me up instantly, even a large squadron of To'Duj figthers or whatever blow me up.
Emitter array: only boosts shield heal powers. What of those are you using?
Amplifier: your regen rate is probably not getting much of a boost here. Your shield is one step from not having a regen rate at all.
you're using boring normal Neut. Diminishing returns on armor means the third one isn't giving a whole lot of resist. It's heavy cruiser so either the fleet neut with +turn or +hp or +hull repair would be better. Possibly a mix of them.
My character Tsin'xing
You're level 60 and it's odd that you don't have any of the rep stuff. For example, in the Romulan rep you usually get the Zero point energy console to increase your Crits. In the Omega rep you get the Assimilated console to do the same. Plus the Kinetic cutting beam for the 2 piece bonuses. If you're having trouble surviving, I'd recommend you get the Sol Defence set from the Iconian "Midnight" mission. It has resistances which would allow you to get rid of some netronium and it has a very good heal. The "Butterfly" mission from the Iconian arc also has the Temporal Disentanglement Suite console which is good for increasing shields and also your crits.
I will be honest, I suck at these things. My bridge officer abilities focus on healing, engineering team, emergency power to shields, rotate shield freq. Aux power to structural integrity. Emergency power to weapons / engines. Polarize hull. Torpedo High Yield, Torpedo: Spread, Beam Array: Fire at Will I, Tactical Team 1 and last but not least, Warp Plasma and tractor beam.
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Here's my new stuff more up close.
And the power setting is something I change depending on the situation I'm in...
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There are a few things you should grab but some general advice first. Set your weapons to max power and keep them there. Anything less than max and your DPS will take a massive dip. Those sci cons you are using are generally used on sci ships and not on much else. They dont give much of a benefit to cruisers esspecially not ones with as limited a set of sci powers as the galaxy class.
Next get some rep gear. You cant go wrong with the iconian space set. Also the assimilated module with a kinnetic cutting beam from the borg rep are staples in most builds
Next that torpedo is not a good choice. If you must run a torp I recommend getting the quantum phase torp from the sunrise episode as well as its uni console and phaser beam array. That will grant you extra phaser damage as well as a nasty phaser attack out of your deflector.
Next step. Join a fleet and get some vulnerability locators for phasers as well as 1 or 2 fleet nutronioum cons and some plasma weapon signature cons with the flow mod. might also be a good idea to upgrade your ship to fleet level though If I were you I would grab the Yamato and fly that instead. Its practically the same ship but with a more aggressive con layout, a hanger and built in phaser lance.
Next you should get a plasmonic leech off the exchange. Be warned they are expensive but well worth having. It will almost completly remove the need for weapon batteries assuming you have specced into flow caps. If not and you have forked out for a leech it would be worth getting a respec and pumping up your flow caps. It will not only boost the leech but the quantum phase set as well
Finally I would get some new weapons. with crtd mods. Your best off just buying them off the exchange at UR level to avoid getting mods you dont like but be warned crtdX4 phasers are very rare and often expensive. luckily if you are using the quantum phase set and the kinnetic cuttting beam you will only need 5 more weapons to fill out your ship.
Anyway, I replaced a neutronium armour with the plasmonic leach thingy. Only costed me 85.000.000 energy credits.
But it's not stupid, it's fine. If you want to stick with canon build, that's fine as well.
The plasmonic leech works with a warp core with AMP .
Money well spent. Dont worry phasers are perfectly viable In PVE if you build them right.
If you are talking about Iconian rep gear hear dont worry. You dont need to use iconian weapons. Im talking about the Iconian shield, deflector, engines and warp core. The set has some very useful perks and some nice visuals. Of course if you dont like the visuals you can always turn them off to preserve your canon ship appearence.
EnsUni: BO1
Tac LtC: FaW1, THY2, TS3 (I'd replace one of those with Tac team)
Eng Com: EptS1, EngTeam, RSP, EWP Against certain enemies EWP is nice, but not all. I'd replace with Aux2Sif3.
EngLtC: EptE1: EptW, Aux2SIF I'd replace EptE with either another EptS or EptW. Also dual Aux2SIF is pointless so maybe another EptS or W, maybe extend shields, it's useful for cross healing.
Sci Lt: Polarize hull, TB I'd replace TB with TSS. not sure your build really benefits from TB at all. that or TBR.... AoE damage is good. Maybe Sci Team.
My character Tsin'xing
What makes my current build so horrible? I got the leech and upgraded flow capacitors so I drain shield power from enemies and all their sub systems and force that into my own weapons power. In battle I can have my weapon and shield energy at max.
I'm confused why everyone elses builds are so better but no one can explain what is wrong with mine. You say it's "far better than what I am using now."
Why?
The thing about STO is that there is no "one right way" and there are many excelent types of builds, some dependant on class, some on toon faction or toon race, and some just on preference. As such when you ask something on this forum, you will often find that everyone has a slightly different view. Which can be confusing at times.
As to one theme that has been present among the other posts that I would mention, while there is nothing wrong with your "core items" (Shield, Warp Core, Engine, etc.) they are still just standard equiptment. As such they do not have the inherant "bonus" stats or "set bonus" stats that come from fleet gear or rep gear respectively. For example, the Counter Command set offers inate bonuses to turn rate, which is good for a large cruiser, and sci abilities, good for a sci captain or sci focused ship. The Nukara set is also sci heavy while the FE reward sets such as the Kobali or Sol defense are very tanky. As to fleet gear (If you choose to be in a fleet), a Vulnerability Console, which is a very popular item at the moment, is essentially the same as the tactical consoles you are using; so long as you choose the + Phaser variety. However, they also include a bonus stat that increases crit chance and automatically come at ultra rare. So while you may not "need" that extra stat, why not have it if there is a version of a console you are already using that just happens to include it? It's always good to have more stats.
EDIT: Also, what the others have said about power levels is very true. I used to keep my ship's power at the basic "balanced" setting too. But as time went on I realized just how much that was affecting my ship's performance. One might think that saying you need high weapon power is just about DPS... but its not. For whatever reason, especially on beam boats due to depletion from them all firing at once, its amazing how little damage I was doing. If you have power bonuses (Or in your case that prized plasmonic leech you aquired) you don't "need" weapon power at 100, but it should at least be 85 to 90. Further, given the Galaxy's nature and your chosen boff abilities you don't need hardly any aux power. Aux is good for many sci skills (Its a must for exotic damage for example), but in a cruiser built for defense (Like the galaxy) it could be put to much better use in your weapons system or engines. Anyway, again, I hope that helps.
What is AMP? I am so confused with how things in this game work. How does this and this work togheter with that, what skills effect this and this. Why is that better than this. It's just so confusing for me and I have a hard time understanding how things in this game just works togheter. Back when this game was in it's baby stage it was simpler. The higher "Mark" and the more rare it was, the better it was. Simple as that, lol.. Now everything effects everything in one way or another, either positive, negative or not at all. It's just so confusing.
For now I'd say I got a good build after the leech console and stuff, when I play with NPC's even on Advanced I don't get defeated even once. Except when I pour myself a glass of Cola etc and my ships just sits at idle in a firefight.
It's why I was so confused, I had no issues playing through the storyline. No one could defeat me. And the moment I tried myself against another player I couldn't even dent their shields, and in 5-10 seconds I was blown to kingdom come.
pretty much this
Sorry if we are being a bit overwelming but Zarato is spot on. Your core gear is fine but its beginner gear. You can get far better performance out of fleet and rep gear without having to break the bank.
Take me for instence. Im a tac who loves cruisers. I fly a fleet Yamato Decked out in the iconian space set. I use that set because it has a hot restart ability meaning if any of my systems go offline they spring right back again a second later. It also has a damage buff ability built in so thats a free DPS boost.
I run the quantum phase set because it comes with one of the best torps in game as well as a console that beefes up phaser damage and a built in super phaser you can fire from your deflector. Of course the best thing about the set is that it is free. All you need to do is play sunrise 3 times to get the gear.
As for my phasers I use a mix of crtdx3 overs and crtdx2 overs with a random mod. I would use all crtdx3 overs but I cant afford them. Crtdx3 pen is considerd to be the best mod for a weapon to have as you get your best damage from crits so pumping up crit damage is a no brainer. as for pen it allows you to ignore some of your targets armor but I prefer using overs for that random overload you get from time to time. Is it optimal? No but it is viable and I just prefer my ship that way
There is no need to go into detail with the leech. Almost every high tier build uses it because more power is always good. No one will disagree with that choice
like Zarato said regular weapon cons are fine but the fleet vulnerability locators will give you the same bunus plus a crit chance buff so why not use the fleet ones if you can.
Fleet plasma weapon signature cons give your weapons a chance to create a plasma explosion which can pump up your DPS. If you get the flow versions they will also make the leech and quantum phase gear work better so why not. They come in two varieties ones that make you a bigger target and ones that make you a smaller target. For a galaxy class I would recommend the amplifiers so you can take the heat off your team. Cruisers are good tanks but it depends what you want to do with your ship.
finally lets talk about AMP. This is a mod that some warp cores have or can get at UR. it gives you a small damage boost for every system you have above 75 power. With the leech it is possable to get ALL your systems over 75 power. I can get all my systems to 125 with the leech) so its a killer combo. The Iconian core is one of the cores that get AMP at UR so it is a good choice
The saucer sepperation takes up 1 slot and that sucks but I like it and it's very cannon. It also turns the Galaxy into more of a Escort style ship because I can actually perform u-turns without taking up 4 blocks in sector space. lol.
I miss the old days when saucer sepperation was built into the Galaxy Class, not a console.. But oh well.
But my build is not bad? I guess.. I win over all the NPC's.. But it's not ultra good either.
But at first I thought you guys was like.. It's the worst build I've ever seen.
But out from that judgement, that makes my build really good if you don't count PVP in the picture. As I have never been "defeated" while on any mission. Even with a shitlo** of Iconian ships, dreadnoughts I'm never "defeated" of course there's sometimes it's close.. Down to 25% hull but I just heal myself, repair my shields and transfer the rest of my power to the weapons..
So in that case my build is.. Very good? lol. If I ignore PVP.
I agree about the saucer sep, for me its a must on any galaxy variant... standard or dread.
But to reiterate what I think has become the general concesus, by no means was your equipment or build bad... it could just be better optimized by choosing the right sets. But the thing about STO is you will continue to pick up new tricks all the time, slowly making your build a bit better at each step. For example, and I'm sure others will snicker at me for this, but I will admit that this very thread taught me what AMP really does. I've heard about it for a long time, but never bothered to investigate, but now I think I will. So again, not to sound too pithy but, the road to a good build is a never ending journey of tinkering with what we like and discovering what works.
Finally, just to make sure you noticed it, I edited one of my earlier posts to mention traits. (The Rep and starship kind not basic captain ones) If you don't know about them or have not gathered them yet you might want to look into it. From what I hear you need every advantage in PvP as you can be sure your opponent is doing the same. As always good luck and have fun.