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I know what it really comes down to is this:
20% crtD vs proc.
But other factors need to be considered like core and set bonuses and bonus damage. The reason plasma, phaser, and disruptor hasn't replaced AP as king is because of their set bonus damage increase being tied to terrible peices or giving up amp.
Phaser/disruptor: tactical and Uni console, torp, turret. This locks you into using extremely sub par consoles or a turret or a torp. If you are going for pure beams, this set can be ruled out. Even if you went with both consoles to keep optimal weapons, the dps loss from the consoles would likely make the set bonus damage increase a wash.
It's the same with AP. To get the AP bonus you have to give up AMP, making it a wash. Plasma could probably sneak by with its 2pc but it's still sub optimal pieces individually.
Which brings us to tetryon. It's 2pc does not require much sacrifice IMo. The console is actually pretty dang good if you don't run a2b and don't have a hardon for embassy consoles, and it's 2nd pc is an Omni beam, which doesn't lose too much effectiveness vs a crafted array with pen in its place. The set bonus is also 13.3% - one of the largest. Factor in a 25-30% crtH and all of a sudden it seems like tetryon with the 2pc does more base damage than AP.
It seems to me that if the console fits in the build, tetryon could technically overtake AP in terms of base damage, before even factoring in the tetryon shield proc. To me this would make tetryon the best - by a fair margin too.
Thoughts?
I ran some tests using a tetryon load out vs AP load out and they were damn near the same. I had issues tracking the tetryon proc in the parser though.
20% crtD vs proc.
But other factors need to be considered like core and set bonuses and bonus damage. The reason plasma, phaser, and disruptor hasn't replaced AP as king is because of their set bonus damage increase being tied to terrible peices or giving up amp.
Phaser/disruptor: tactical and Uni console, torp, turret. This locks you into using extremely sub par consoles or a turret or a torp. If you are going for pure beams, this set can be ruled out. Even if you went with both consoles to keep optimal weapons, the dps loss from the consoles would likely make the set bonus damage increase a wash.
It's the same with AP. To get the AP bonus you have to give up AMP, making it a wash. Plasma could probably sneak by with its 2pc but it's still sub optimal pieces individually.
Which brings us to tetryon. It's 2pc does not require much sacrifice IMo. The console is actually pretty dang good if you don't run a2b and don't have a hardon for embassy consoles, and it's 2nd pc is an Omni beam, which doesn't lose too much effectiveness vs a crafted array with pen in its place. The set bonus is also 13.3% - one of the largest. Factor in a 25-30% crtH and all of a sudden it seems like tetryon with the 2pc does more base damage than AP.
It seems to me that if the console fits in the build, tetryon could technically overtake AP in terms of base damage, before even factoring in the tetryon shield proc. To me this would make tetryon the best - by a fair margin too.
Thoughts?
I ran some tests using a tetryon load out vs AP load out and they were damn near the same. I had issues tracking the tetryon proc in the parser though.
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AP has a new console 'polymorphic something' that has a clicky plus passive damage boost and a core with passive.
At least with classic beams you know the proc should work, not sure thats been the case with coalition disruptors or if the next shiny things will work. And if they do release a new killer weapon it will probably be the torp variant that is OP, and that ends up getting nerfed.
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It is the highest dps beam array I know of, but that's only on the set array. The non-set arrays aren't nearly that good. Hence my statement above:
SCM - Hive (S) - [02:31] DMG(DPS) - @jarvisandalfred: 30.62M(204.66K) - Fed Sci
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what I'd like to see is some consoles with a +proc chance in regards to the old single proc weapons. that would make them more viable options again.
now that the terran torp looks sweet, I may plug that into my setup simply for the damage scaling. to deal with shields, just run spread on it to lock in some damage somewhere thats open.