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Fleet T6 no Mastery Trait, right?

gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Do I have this right?:
If I want the Fleet T6 of {x}, it does not have the 5th Mastery Trait.

So I would need to buy the T6 (non-Fleet) variety to get the extra trait. Do I at least get a discount on the Fleet version?
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  • jkwrangler2010jkwrangler2010 Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    Yes, you will use less fleet ship modules for the fleet version.
  • gabeoz1gabeoz1 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    T6 Fleets do NOT come with Mastery traits. They make up with this by increasing overall stats, and lowering the overall price. (C-Store variant costs 3k zen, while 5 FSM cost 2.5k zen)
  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    Right, OK thanks guys.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    Yes, any T5/6 C-Store ship that has a fleet version you get discounted to only 1 fleet module if you purchase the C-Store version.
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    And its an account unlock...
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    And remember that the C-Store version also unlocks the Ship for all Faction member characters on the account. Each character still needs to provide one FSM individually to obtain the Fleet Version.

    Get the C-Store ship, get Admiralty card, level up Masteries and unlock the T5 for that character for all ships. Get Fleet ship, get another Admiralty card, you already have the T5 Mastery, level that up T1 - T4 and you are all set.
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  • johnwatson71johnwatson71 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    Do I have this right?:
    If I want the Fleet T6 of {x}, it does not have the 5th Mastery Trait.

    So I would need to buy the T6 (non-Fleet) variety to get the extra trait. Do I at least get a discount on the Fleet version?

    Yes, when you get the T6 first, the fleet version will only cost 1 fleet module.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Just another note.. the C-Store version is also the only way to get the ships unique console. In some cases, the C-Store version also grants access to skins that the Fleet Version alone does not.

    The only real reason to buy just the fleet version is if you have a large excess of Energy Credits and want to buy a ship for pure EC using the exchange to purchase modules. Otherwise, it's just a better overall deal to get the C-Store version of the ship and then going up to the fleet version after mastering it.
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  • jkwrangler2010jkwrangler2010 Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    If you unlock all 5 mastery levels of the c-store version, the trait will be unlocked for the fleet version. You just have to select it on your traits screen.
  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    All of the above was my understanding, thanks all for confirming. But one thing that's still confusing me is my Fed Tac has both the Defiant Retrofit and its Fleet version. But when my Fed Sci goes to the ship store, the non-Fleet version still costs 2000 Zen, and the Fleet version still costs 4 FSM.

    What's the deal?
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You looking at the right Fleet Defiant - the T5 and not the T6?
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    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    Did you go to the C-Store and try claiming it there for 0 zen? I've sometimes needed to go to the C-Store first instead of ship requisitions.

    Also, if you unlocked the C-Store version with a token (veteran token?) That might not count as buying the ship account-wide.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    As davefenestrator mentioned, if you got the ship with a Vet Token, it is not an account unlock. Are you a subscriber? LTS?
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    You looking at the right Fleet Defiant - the T5 and not the T6?
    Yes, the Tactical Escort Retrofit.
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Did you go to the C-Store and try claiming it there for 0 zen?
    Yes, it's 2,000 Zen.
    bergins wrote: »
    Are you a subscriber? LTS?
    Yes, LTS.

    I don't remember how I got it; it's been a long time. I guess it was some one-time token. :/

    Thanks guys.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Here is the tell-tale. Did you get the Retrofit with the Cloaking Console? If not, you did not buy it in the C-Store.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
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    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    I do have the cloak console, but honestly I don't remember if it came on the ship or the one before. (non-retrofit)

    Either way, not going to buy it just for the Admiralty of my Sci.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    It comes on the Retrofit. You could have acquired the Cloaking Console from the Galaxy-X if you purchased that.

    The 'one before that' is the Refit that comes with the Quad Phaser Heavy Cannon.

    What does the C-Store show for the Defiant Retrofit - 2,000 Zen or Claim?

    If you don't have the Claim, then you did not purchase the C-Store Ship as far as they are concerned and you would NOT be entitled to the FSM discount.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    ...the non-Fleet version still costs 2000 Zen
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    Yes, it's 2,000 Zen.
    ltminns wrote: »
    If you don't have the Claim, then you did not purchase the C-Store Ship...
    Yup as discussed above it must have been some one-time token. Mystery solved, anyway. Thanks.

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