Unless ofcause the new series takes place in the Abrams-Universe and not in the Roddenberry-Universe.
if it does, then it got nothing to do with STO, as STO is set in the Roddenberry-Universe.
Expect part of STO is Abrams-Universe. The distraction of Romulus and Remus never happened in Roddenberry-Universe.
[quote]Romulus/Remus being destroyed is JJ-verse NOT Prime universe[/quote]
False. That is actually the only part that IS prime universe. Old Spock and Nero came *from* the prime verse. The events that caused old Spock to get sucked into the black hole happened IN the prime verse, but everything that happened on the other side was in the alternate/JJverse. Howerer, since Romulus being destroyed happened in the prime verse and is now canon, that forced Cryptic to change the story they already had planned for the game, before they found out what was happening in the movie's story.
Unless ofcause the new series takes place in the Abrams-Universe and not in the Roddenberry-Universe.
if it does, then it got nothing to do with STO, as STO is set in the Roddenberry-Universe.
Expect part of STO is Abrams-Universe. The distraction of Romulus and Remus never happened in Roddenberry-Universe.
STO is not set in the Roddenberry-Universe because it features Romulus/Remus being destroyed and that is part of the jj movies, a new series could have Romulus/Remus as still being intact for one of two reasons, firstly it could predate the destruction of Romulus/Remus or it could be after the destruction of Romulus/Remus should have took place but it could show that the Romulus/Remus never actually did take place.
if the latter is the case then you have 3 universes, you have the CBS/Roddenberry-Universe, you have the prime STO/JJ-verse and you have the alt JJ-universe.
then again it could also be that Romulus/Remus being destroyed is neither mentioned one way or the other neither affirming the jj prime Universe or denying it leaving the viewer to choose what they want to believe.
having said that I suspect if Romulus/Remus are ever mentioned it will stick to the plot that they have been destroyed for reasons of continuity.
I have yet to see any firm news on when in the trek timeline the new series takes place or what storylines, plots or sub-plots might be raised and whether it will refer to any particular back history.
Romulus/Remus being destroyed is JJ-verse NOT Prime universe
False. That is actually the only part that IS prime universe. Old Spock and Nero came *from* the prime verse. The events that caused old Spock to get sucked into the black hole happened IN the prime verse, but everything that happened on the other side was in the alternate/JJverse. Howerer, since Romulus being destroyed happened in the prime verse and is now canon, that forced Cryptic to change the story they already had planned for the game, before they found out what was happening in the movie's story.
Consult memory alpha if you are still confused.
memory alpha is just an information portal similar to wikipidia and does not reflect the official line from CBS, as it sais here >
"Star Trek, Star Trek: The Animated Series, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and Star Trek: Enterprise are all registered trademarks of CBS Corporation. Memory Alpha is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by CBS"
in other words if CBS chooses to show that the distraction of Romulus and Remus never happened they can.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
@xuel Part of your problem is you do not understand what terms mean. The "JJverse"(aka the alternate timeline) is where old Spock/Nero WENT after getting sucked through the black hole. But they came FROM the prime verse(which is what you are calling the CBS/Roddenberry-universe). And the prime verse is where all previous Trek series/movies took place, prior to that movie. It is also where STO is set. This is the timeline they made to help you understand when the game launched:
As far as any new series, at this point we don't actually know what verse it will be set in. It is true that CBS could choose to retcon canon; they've done it plenty of times before. But the fact remains that right NOW, bot Romulus and Remus are destroyed in the PRIME universe/timeline, and that is why Cryptic had to change their storyline at thn last minute to match canon.
PS: for further proof of what I'm saying, read the timeline of Spock's life...from the official startrek.com database:
They aren't even legally allowed to use the JJ universe. The JJ universe is owned by Paramount, not CBS.
Not long ago, Marvel couldn't use Spiderman in their movies because Sony owned the rights. Then...they made a deal. Now Spiderman will be in the next Avengers movie, and Sony/Marvel will jointly produce the next solo Spiderman movie. So rights being split between 2 companies does NOT mean they can't work together, it just means one can't do it without the other's permission. And no, there is nothing at this point that suggests CBS/Paramount have made any kind of deal, but it is a logical possibility if both companies want to make the most profit possible using the "brand" of Trek that is most popular at the moment.
Well, according to the Ricossa Reddit AMA, the new series may influence STO at least. So it'll be interesting to see what ultimate comes out of the new series.
Well, according to the Ricossa Reddit AMA, the new series may influence STO at least. So it'll be interesting to see what ultimate comes out of the new series.
I guarantee you they will want to sell the new ships, they they can get the permission.
Comments
Expect part of STO is Abrams-Universe. The distraction of Romulus and Remus never happened in Roddenberry-Universe.
[quote]Romulus/Remus being destroyed is JJ-verse NOT Prime universe[/quote]
False. That is actually the only part that IS prime universe. Old Spock and Nero came *from* the prime verse. The events that caused old Spock to get sucked into the black hole happened IN the prime verse, but everything that happened on the other side was in the alternate/JJverse. Howerer, since Romulus being destroyed happened in the prime verse and is now canon, that forced Cryptic to change the story they already had planned for the game, before they found out what was happening in the movie's story.
Consult memory alpha if you are still confused.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
STO is not set in the Roddenberry-Universe because it features Romulus/Remus being destroyed and that is part of the jj movies, a new series could have Romulus/Remus as still being intact for one of two reasons, firstly it could predate the destruction of Romulus/Remus or it could be after the destruction of Romulus/Remus should have took place but it could show that the Romulus/Remus never actually did take place.
if the latter is the case then you have 3 universes, you have the CBS/Roddenberry-Universe, you have the prime STO/JJ-verse and you have the alt JJ-universe.
then again it could also be that Romulus/Remus being destroyed is neither mentioned one way or the other neither affirming the jj prime Universe or denying it leaving the viewer to choose what they want to believe.
having said that I suspect if Romulus/Remus are ever mentioned it will stick to the plot that they have been destroyed for reasons of continuity.
I have yet to see any firm news on when in the trek timeline the new series takes place or what storylines, plots or sub-plots might be raised and whether it will refer to any particular back history.
memory alpha is just an information portal similar to wikipidia and does not reflect the official line from CBS, as it sais here >
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Memory_Alpha:Copyrights
"Star Trek, Star Trek: The Animated Series, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and Star Trek: Enterprise are all registered trademarks of CBS Corporation. Memory Alpha is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by CBS"
in other words if CBS chooses to show that the distraction of Romulus and Remus never happened they can.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/2/29/Sto_timeline_setting.png
As far as any new series, at this point we don't actually know what verse it will be set in. It is true that CBS could choose to retcon canon; they've done it plenty of times before. But the fact remains that right NOW, bot Romulus and Remus are destroyed in the PRIME universe/timeline, and that is why Cryptic had to change their storyline at thn last minute to match canon.
PS: for further proof of what I'm saying, read the timeline of Spock's life...from the official startrek.com database:
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/spock
See that last date?
"2387 - Presumed dead in a black hole, amid failed effort to save Romulus from a vast supernova"
Yeah, that officialy happened, and is a part of the same timeline as all of the previous dates listed above it.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Not long ago, Marvel couldn't use Spiderman in their movies because Sony owned the rights. Then...they made a deal. Now Spiderman will be in the next Avengers movie, and Sony/Marvel will jointly produce the next solo Spiderman movie. So rights being split between 2 companies does NOT mean they can't work together, it just means one can't do it without the other's permission. And no, there is nothing at this point that suggests CBS/Paramount have made any kind of deal, but it is a logical possibility if both companies want to make the most profit possible using the "brand" of Trek that is most popular at the moment.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I guarantee you they will want to sell the new ships, they they can get the permission.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008