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Do pilot Raptors make DHCs effective again?
sovereign010
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Reason I asked is that I recently bought the bundle and noticed the set bonuses for the consoles give a significant damage bonus as well as crit severity for cannons.
My tac raptor has that set, plus the 2-piece obelisk AP set bonus, plus the point blank shot space trait which boosts cannon damage at the range at which they're most dangerous.
It pretty much murders any Tholian that gets in its way
My tac raptor has that set, plus the 2-piece obelisk AP set bonus, plus the point blank shot space trait which boosts cannon damage at the range at which they're most dangerous.
It pretty much murders any Tholian that gets in its way
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In fact they are typically more effective than beams at popping single targets and far more satisfying.
Beam FAW spam is only "better" because the AoE arcs are larger.
DHC all the time.
Regular dual cannons theoretically allow you to proc more often because they shoot a few more bolts of energy in their firing sequence, but in reality it just doesn't make up for DHC's raw damage output.
Your K'tinga though, has very few tac boff slots, and as FAW can be slotting as low as ensign, you'd be better off in that ship using beams.
Only ships with high amounts of tac seat space (5 slots or more) is cannons worth pursuing.
There is one place where the DC > DHC. Stuff that benefits from per shots fired like Directed Energy Modulation.
Everything else, DHC>>>DC.
I play a lot of Iconian related content. Advanced, etc. Heralds are not a nice place to be in short proximity with in space. And for good damage output, you have to be in very close range. If you're sitting back with cannons at range, then your damage has dropped off tremendously.
I notice the Klingon ships shooting at the Jem Hadar and Cardassian ships shooting already. They apparently have no problems with the severe dropoff as the devs insist our cannons suffer. There is no reasonable explanation, or at least not now in this power crept game, why this must be so.
Me too! I do have a cannon ship, and a full set of 5 xiv critdx3+ ap cannons. Its fun, but its simply not as efficient and much more dangerous ... the escorts that are suited to cannon just explode sometimes as damage is designed now to take a well geared cruiser to 25% in one volley, which of course is instant death to ships with greatly reduced hull and shields. If I did not have a piloting ship, I probably couldnt even attempt to play a cannon game. Those 5k teleports with immunity are just enough to make it viable, but you need some skills and timing even with that. Its still much easier to just get in a tank and sit there with your beams on auto fire like everyone else.
There isn't a reasonable explanation for a lot of the things in game...torpedoes suffer just like Cannons...only they've suffered since what...Beta?
It seems like they're slanting the game towards beams...wouldn't surprise they did it to make more money...since every ship can use beams but not every ship can use cannons...just like they only make escorts and cruisers because they sell better than sci ships.
It's all about the all might $...more and more I don't think they care about the game at all...just the $
Torps are a lot better than they were, now. Command tree, ships, officers and a few other choice goodies have made them much stronger. Still not designed to be your primary weapon, and BO3 still does more than most torp spreads or torps, but they can be fun. Shields are an ongoing issue with torps, but they are better at 60 than they were back at 50 by a long way.
That's nearly what I use on my pilot raptor, only I use only one torpedo, in the fore of my ship, with a turret and a omni in the aft.
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The new torp from the FE drops shields in a single spread if you have some flow caps. Its viable, not as potent as beams, but my GW / TS drive by can do some serious damage and few things survive it.
DHCs are still useful, particularly with the Pilot Escorts/Raptors if you can focus on one target at a time, but DHCs will never be as popular as they once were until one of the following things happen:
Standard dual cannons are fine because of the improved rate of fire (essentially increasing your crit chance per second because you're firing more often), but unless you're stacking the mods correctly then DHC usually end up being superior because of the built-in buff to Crit Severity. If you really want to make standard dual cannons deliver more damage than DHCs then you have to use active space DOffs that buff your crit chance/crit severity, make sure you're using dual cannons that have mods that boost crit severity, and use weapon types that have a chance to give you impressive damage bonuses that are stacked as you crit.
Even then, the argument can be made that you could do everything I just said with DHC and still do more damage because of the benefit of extra crit severity from DHCs.
Standard dual cannons should have a bonus crit chance in addition to that greater rate of fire the same way that DHC have a bonus crit severity ... that would make standard dual cannons that much more useful compared to DHCs.
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