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Wil players ever be able to earn a tier 6 ship?
doconichan
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I understand cryptic has to make money, but making it so endgame is inaccessible unless you buy a ship kind of sucks. I wasted money on a tier 5 ship and then upgraded it t t5-u. That's the same price as t6, but I can't compete with t6 ships.
So will cryptic update the t5-u ships to be competitive? or is pay to win always going to be the core strategy of the game?
Failing that maybe a lvl 60 quest could be added that lets players earn a t6 ship.
So will cryptic update the t5-u ships to be competitive? or is pay to win always going to be the core strategy of the game?
Failing that maybe a lvl 60 quest could be added that lets players earn a t6 ship.
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Well, that^
And word on the street is that we'll get a breen dreadnought (it's also the only non-playable breen ship left) for this year's winter event.
So yeah, you can say much about cryptic but not that they aren't giving away stuff for free every now and then.
- Breen Carrier (Carrier/Sci focus/intel): Not a recluse but set up properly I think the next best thing.
- Kobali Samasar (Cruiser/Engineering): Set up as tank, I hardly see many better ones around for that role. Are there?
- Nandi (Tac/Escort): It’s a free DPS machine from bottom to top. I think it’s even best for feds when after killing stuff. First ship with 6 boff stations by the way. The trait alone is among the best in game for DPS.
Play the game OP and do so with a mix of enthusiasm and patience. I think it will work out, even f2p.
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I see, pls realize that a “ship” itself, let it be tier 6 or tier 5u is only a very small part as far as the overall performance of it is concerned. The mix of the selected boff powers and the used gear outperforms the naked ship stats by far.
I never flown a kumari but here is a link how peeps have set up theirs, some builds are out of date quiet a bit but it should give you a hint want I try to say here.
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/search.php?faction=Federation&career=Tactical&ship=Kumari+Escort&action=Search
It will take time to understand this game, but its worth it.
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I'm not saying that's bad or anything, but even before DR you could get the free T5 ships and never upgrade because they were all end-game level ships. Even if they were supplanted by c-store versions. Nowadays, you can't even upgrade those free ships, which honestly I think is wrong.
Oh the golden times of mirror ships, which were obtainable for only 50k EC.
Stuff like the mirror Negh'var & mirror Mogai were everything on could want and then some.
What a sad day it was when they posted the list for upgradeable ships.
Okay, let's clear things up here.
1. There is no 'endgame'.
2. T5U ships only lack the trait and 1 Boff ability compared to a T6. All other stats are comparable ie Hull and Shield HP.
3. There has been a multitude of ships given away throughout the years. Free players can get by with no problems. Even a well built T3/4 ship can handle most stuff.
and lastly.....
4. There is NO PAY-TO-WIN in this game, so don't even go there. You're not competing with other players. You have nothing to lose. You can't even be forced into fighting another player unless you choose to do so, and even then it costs you nothing and you lose nothing. P2W only applies when you actually stand to lose something, such as perma-destruction of your ship or loss of resources. Everything in this game is accessible to everyone bar a few 'subscriber' perks (of which those perks give no advantage bar +1k refining allowance).
and dilithium to zen conversion is so low that in a month you should be able to get a T6 ship for all your chars on a specific faction.
This OP makes NO freaking sense. It is so unfactual, I had to roll my eyes each sentence.
T5-U is only slightly weaker than a standard T6. Fleet T6 are better, but the better (fleet)T5-U ships are preferable over some weaker T6 or even fleet T6.
For the end game content it is irrelevant, period.
this sentence made me laugh:
the word "exceptions" (even plural) negates the word "entirely"... in other words, that sentence follows no logic at all. Lets assume there are 30 "premium" (dilithium to zen conversion obscures even this word) then there are 10% free ships...that is a statistically signifficant amount.
So that sentence is entirely illogical.
But since you brought it up, your math is completely wrong. There are exactly 60 T6 ships currently available from each of the three factions that can only be purchased by zen or by FSMs (and if you're not buying those FSMs with zen yourself, someone else has and put them up on the exchange; and while EC isn't technically real money it still counts as a resource you have to accrue in-game, unlike the actual factual free ships you get at every level up until level 50). There are six more that can ONLY be acquired by being 1000 day vets, or LTS. Very much the exact OPPOSITE of free.
So 3 free ships - I question this assertion as well since it required a substantial (2 week) effort of replaying the same exact content for a non-faction ship, they're only 'free' in the sense you don't have to pay real money for them, but they nevertheless cost in time, and time is money - vs 66 faction specific ships that can *only* be bought by zen either you buy you or someone else did? That's less than 5%. And then there's the lobi and lockbox ships which makes it even more disparate.
That's not significant ratio at all, at least not in the way you think.
The last T6 ship I bought was the Mercury and I bought it entirely from dil.
In an Andorian escort? Yes, you can. I have one, and I'm very happy with it. Kicked even Iconian bums in it. It's a matter of build as much as the ship itself.
You'll get more performance from tuning your skill tree.
Check out some skill trees to get an idea on how to maximize your performance. I'd say skill tree, boff/doff and ability selection would be the most important thing.
Another big hint for PvE, Kinetics from enemies are the biggest danger.
So abilities like Polarize Hull, with Aux to Inertial dampners are good to have.
Brace for Impact is also a life saver.
Mind you the Kumari Escorts are pretty fragile, BUT with the right abilities and skill tree, they can still be made durable enough to get you through any content (PvE).
And they hit very hard still in comparison to some T6's.
SUPPORTING PLAYABLE CARDASSIAN AND DOMINION FACTIONS!
Every other ship requires you spend money or spend time.
I think your time is money "metric" is fundamentally misguided here. We're talking about a computer game, where of course you are going to spend time on. If you couldn't spend time on it, it wouldn't be much of a game.
Time spent doing other things vs doing the same task repeatedly over a dozen times. Even if that task takes all of five minutes, the 20 hr cooldown stretches things out and makes it feel longer than it actually is. For example, you could spend those two weeks doing the story content and have a richer experience in comparison. At least, in my opinion.
Of course if you stayed away from the game Cryptic chucked you a free T6 Andromeda. To say T6 in and of itself is off-limits without a Zen purchase is nonsense.
"Let them eat static!"
Eheh, Vestas. Not even the highest, and not even a crit. lol.
Then there are the unbearable T5Us that get murdered left and right, but that's another story.
That being said, T5-U is absolutely competitive with T6.
I love people who don't know what the definition of "win" is.
On topic.
T6 Ships I own:
Kobali Samsar
Andromeda (Free from Promotion)
Xindi Olaen
Xindi Ateleth
I don't buy Zen Ships. You don't need to buy Zen Ships to excel at this game. No plans to waste my precious dil on Zen Ships.
Umm...what content is inaccessible without a T6 ship? None...
Elite Space Queues.
You will struggle to do them without Starship Traits / being carried.
inb4 someone comes in here to correct me.
The OP isn't talking about that though...the OP flat out said can't do things because of not having a T6 ship...
Besides if you want to go by the definition...you could access elite queues with a T1 ship...you'll get ripped to shreds but it is accessible.
Well then they'd be wrong. I still use several T5 ships on my alts.
T5-U Tac-Vesta
T5 Fleet Dhelan (still does my second most impressive DPS hilariously enough)
T5 Fleet Tor'kaht (Not as much anymore as Hyde doesn't really do space)
T5 FACR (Not really as much, because I upgraded to the Samsar/Andromeda)
But the Starship Traits. You need them for Elite Space Queues (and some Advanced) or else they're rather difficult.
My character Tsin'xing
I think that isn't just a technicality. It's pretty important. There are a lot of starship traits available that don't require Tier 6 ships. And there will be more such traits. If you had a Delta Recruit and get your specializations up, you will already have 4 traits covered, but you might also have a Tier 6 Event ship, for example. Or you buy something on the exchange. Or play throught House of Pegh...