Remove Quad Cannons engine power drain

thibash

The quad cannons are just dual heavy cannons with different visuals. There's no reason they should get twice the energy drain for the same effect. Especially since you have to buy it with ZEN.

welcome2earf

...DHCs without the +10% CritD (which I hear doesnt work) and crappier mods (even with the buff to DMG, it's still not always optimal)

thibash

Even more reason to remove that engine drain. Or better, make it just engine drain. That would certainly make 'em useful.

darkknightucf

I wonder if the engine drain works off of the same mechanic as the weapon drain. If this is so, wouldn't it be penalized for the damage done?

kyrrok

Removing the engine power drain sounds like a good idea to me too. I don't know why we're getting penalized for it in the first place.

thibash

darkknightucf wrote: »

I wonder if the engine drain works off of the same mechanic as the weapon drain. If this is so, wouldn't it be penalized for the damage done?

As far as I can tell (without extensive testing) it's just an instant -10 engine power while the weapon fires, which is also instantly restored. The only possible benefit I can think of for this is that you'll have less risk of flying past the target on an attack run (as the speed reduction happens at optimal firing arc only).

If you have any insights on the effect though, you're welcome to share them. You're a much more thorough tester than I am.

warmaker001b

thibash wrote: »

Even more reason to remove that engine drain. Or better, make it just engine drain. That would certainly make 'em useful.

Making Quad weapons only an Engine Drain mechanic is a surefire way to make them worthless. For one, Quad weapons on their own don't do anything magically special in damage. You are not going to find other Engine-based weapons. Even the Pilot BOFF ability to make weapons feed off Engine Power is of a very short duration. So in the end, you'd have a questionable weapon that has no synergy with other energy weapons in the game. And in the Energy Weapons meta, 1 is not enough.

dalnar83

Well their damage could be based on weapon power, but they could drain engine power instead. Hence improving the weapon power consumption.

mustrumridcully0

Maybe they should just give it another benefit, a neat extra mod. Maybe having a synergy with the cloaking console or the eventual Tier 6 Defiant abilities might suffice to make it worth.

Special Ability Idea - Close Range Weapon: Firing this weapon grants a scaling resistance bonus to the attacker if fired at a target within 3 km or less, and grants temporary immunity to warp core explosions (5 seconds, can occur only once in 30 seconds.)

greendragon527

thibash wrote: »

darkknightucf wrote: »

I wonder if the engine drain works off of the same mechanic as the weapon drain. If this is so, wouldn't it be penalized for the damage done?

As far as I can tell (without extensive testing) it's just an instant -10 engine power while the weapon fires, which is also instantly restored. The only possible benefit I can think of for this is that you'll have less risk of flying past the target on an attack run (as the speed reduction happens at optimal firing arc only).

If you have any insights on the effect though, you're welcome to share them. You're a much more thorough tester than I am.

IIRC It wasn't for benefit, it was from a line in DS9 that the the Defiant's phasers pulled directly from the engines or something like that.

thibash

warmaker001b wrote: »

Making Quad weapons only an Engine Drain mechanic is a surefire way to make them worthless.

Like dalnar, I was thinking damage based on weapon power but energy drained from engines. But I agree, just engine drain would make them more or less worthless.

postinggum

Its just one of the many cstore ship toys that you'd never use if trying to fly a well put together ship. How many T1-4 have a special console/weapon that you'd want on a T5-6?
For me:
Roms: Valdore console( as 2pc on T6), T'Varo set iff flying a torp boat
KDF and Roms: Leech though its a bit cheaty
Feds: Wide angled quantum, cloak, maybe

There must be about 40 ships with very little value to even long term players.

neomodious

postinggum wrote: »

Its just one of the many cstore ship toys that you'd never use if trying to fly a well put together ship. How many T1-4 have a special console/weapon that you'd want on a T5-6?
For me:
Roms: Valdore console( as 2pc on T6), T'Varo set iff flying a torp boat
KDF and Roms: Leech though its a bit cheaty
Feds: Wide angled quantum, cloak, maybe

There must be about 40 ships with very little value to even long term players.

I like the battery console from the tier 2 BoP. ups the max power for 3 systems for a bit. great to throw a 135 aux+romulan tier 5 power boosted grav well 3.​​