Kagan does not have long to live

deaftravis05

It seems that Sela blames Kagan for letting the Iconians know it was a Romulan who killed an Iconian...

Maybe Kagan will finally pay the price for his idiocy?

Thoughts?

For reference to Sela's blame, check: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9573293

littlesarbonn

My only thought on the story was what I believe to be a misunderstanding of where Starfleet Academy is (unless I'm the one misunderstanding it). The story says that the celebration was happening in the city across the Bay (when they're at Starfleet Academy). My understanding is that Starfleet Academy is located in what used to be the Presidio, which is on the same side of the Bay as the city. The next paragraph then talks about that city as San Francisco, so it appears the author thinks Starfleet Academy is on the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge.

questerius

I feel the obsession with Kagan is unjustified, but regardless i think Sela will be far too busy to go after anyone especially when the rumours start that it was Sela who put the Iconians on coalition course.​​

alcyoneserene

Maybe we can (optionally) finally terminate our alliances with Feds and KDF and join the RSE. I know, it won't happen, but I'll say it anyways.

farshore

It'll be alright. Sela's got a long list of people she's got grudges against, which includes the Dominion. At this point, she basically hates everybody.

gradii

alcyoneserene wrote: »

Maybe we can (optionally) finally terminate our alliances with Feds and KDF and join the RSE. I know, it won't happen, but I'll say it anyways.

Feel free to doom yourself I'll stick with the Romulan Republic, alliances or no it's a better option by now.

guljarol

farshore wrote: »

It'll be alright. Sela's got a long list of people she's got grudges against, which includes the Dominion. At this point, she basically hates everybody.

Including herself.​​

kodachikuno

This is what happens when you make feddie-bear only content dialogue... Any Romulan worth their ears would have shot her in the faces or arrested her on the spot at the end of "Midnight" but nooooooooooooo. Hell even one of the lemmings that like the caricature of the RSE that Cryptic made would have "arrested her" and gotten her to their ship immediately.

coupaholic

After what happened in Midnight, I'd be surprised if she decides to shoot first again. I mean look how it turned out last time.

Both her and Kagran will probably disappear. They might resurface in a future FE, or made mention of in some obscure text dialogue during a mission. Unfortunately I'm reasonably sure both of them will get away with it.​​

svindal777

Given that Commander Jarok already blamed Sela for everything bad that happened to the Romulans (even before the truths that come out during this mission). My guess is Sela will be to busy avoiding being hunted down by Jarok to be going after anyone.

protogoth

Praetor's Log, 4th day of 3rd month of Air, year 2 After Rediscovery:

I keep telling people not to trust Sela, not to believe in her words, not to expect her to reform, not to attribute noble motives to her acts. She is even now still absorbed in her narcissism, likely seeking some scapegoat upon whom to shift the responsibility for the destruction of Romulus. I should have been at least allowed to put her in irons and drag her back to ch'Mol'Rihan. But no, "She brought the Dominion to help," according to the gullible Hevammsu. I have prepared an order for our Counterintelligence operatives, since it is probable that Sela will soon find a way off of Terrha, if indeed that be not already accomplished. Much as I would prefer to look her in the eyes as I myself end her once and for all, the order goes out today: a hit on Sela is sanctioned by order of Praetor Ji'ana of the Tal'Diann.

End Log.

lianthelia

gradii wrote: »

alcyoneserene wrote: »

Maybe we can (optionally) finally terminate our alliances with Feds and KDF and join the RSE. I know, it won't happen, but I'll say it anyways.

Feel free to doom yourself I'll stick with the Romulan Republic, alliances or no it's a better option by now.

Yeah...I have to agree...if you think becoming a Tal Shiar stooge is a good idea I say have fun with your sinking ship!

Kagran...in the end wasn't so bad...glad to see him end up something besides another war mongering Klingon.

mustrumridcully0

I wouldn't worry about Kagran. This is Sela, that put an Android and a Vulcan Science Officer in a room with holographic projectors and computer access. She send a single ship to conquer Vulcan.

Kagran will be fine.


I am starting to get now that she probably escaped Iconian custody because they wanted her to flee. They knew she'd eventually flee Fed/RR/Klingon custody and try her luck in the Delta Quadrant, securing a small group of ships so that the Dominion could witness first-hand the obliteration of Earth. Just to make clear that resistance is futile.​​

artan42

Thanks to his competency reboot and his performance in the last episode he can consider himself under my protection from Sela.​​

ilithyn

coupaholic wrote: »

After what happened in Midnight, I'd be surprised if she decides to shoot first again. I mean look how it turned out last time.

Well, some people never learn and Sela seems to be one of them.

gulberat

protogoth wrote: »

Praetor's Log, 4th day of 3rd month of Air, year 2 After Rediscovery:

I keep telling people not to trust Sela, not to believe in her words, not to expect her to reform, not to attribute noble motives to her acts. She is even now still absorbed in her narcissism, likely seeking some scapegoat upon whom to shift the responsibility for the destruction of Romulus. I should have been at least allowed to put her in irons and drag her back to ch'Mol'Rihan. But no, "She brought the Dominion to help," according to the gullible Hevammsu. I have prepared an order for our Counterintelligence operatives, since it is probable that Sela will soon find a way off of Terrha, if indeed that be not already accomplished. Much as I would prefer to look her in the eyes as I myself end her once and for all, the order goes out today: a hit on Sela is sanctioned by order of Praetor Ji'ana of the Tal'Diann.

End Log.

Just remember not all Fed field commanders were gullible. As far as I am concerned, Sela would have escaped over the strenuous objections and perhaps even attempted pursuit, by my Feds. (An attempt that failed due to the upper admiralty not giving them additional resources to hunt her down--they were forced to attempt it on their own with no intel, logistical, or additional manpower support.)

mayito2009

Sela has so many bounties on her head now she better buy a battalion of bodyguards.

thay8472

artan42 wrote: »

Thanks to his competency reboot and his performance in the last episode he can consider himself under my protection from Sela.​​

No. He dies.... If this was possible... why didn't we just do this from the beginning?

shpoks

The only ones that need to pay a 'price for idiocy' are Starfleet and the Federation leadership for allowing the galaxy's most wanted criminal to dance around them in their own house and then just walk away.
Haven't realized until now that the Pakled administration has taken over, when did Okeg resign?

velqua

Kagran needs to die. This idiot was reckless by allowing the Krenim to use their time machine so that he could win a war against the Iconians. Where was his battlecry, "It's a good day to die!"? Nowhere! He was so scared that he begged for the Krenim to use the time weapon to save his hide. We still don't know what full effects were of using the device twice other than the Krenim's wife not loving him anymore because she disappeared...and that the guy only shaves when he's be whooped by a woman. lol Again, this pathetic excuse for a Klingon needs to die an honorless death.

As for Sela, she may never come to terms with her human side. She places her father on a pedestal and her mother under her feet. The one thing she doesn't realize is that she is so much more like her mother--a survivor. Sela will continue to survive; that part of Tasha Yar will never end. In the end, Sela will die an old woman, having spent all her life running from her mother and her humanity. I do expect to see a resurgence of Sela's power, but it will never what it once was. She will always be working in the shadows.

Drake and Section 31 are watching. This is not the end in war, but only an end in the battle.

scarling

Kagrans voice makes me want to have his babies. He must live because of this. Also I applaud his position in midnight. It is all our faults for not killing sela.

littlesarbonn

scarling wrote: »

Kagrans voice makes me want to have his babies. He must live because of this. Also I applaud his position in midnight. It is all our faults for not killing sela.

But I did kill Sela. And then I killed the Iconians before returning back home to a present where the Federation was at peace and never went to war against the Iconians because they never existed. Unfortunately, the evil Bunny King took over the galaxy without the Iconians to stop him, and now we all pay homage to His Most Hoppity. But it was better than listening to Sela continue to drone on about the time line.

deleroux

How has Sela not been executed yet is the real question.

The galaxy can't repel derp of that magnitude.

kamiyama317

I was disappointed that we couldn't do things Sela's way and just kill all the Iconians. Why all the dialog options when you're forced to to help the Iconians anyway?

protogoth

kamiyama317 wrote: »

I was disappointed that we couldn't do things Sela's way and just kill all the Iconians. Why all the dialog options when you're forced to to help the Iconians anyway?

I was disappointed that I couldn't do things the Tal'Diann way and just execute Sela the moment we beamed down to ancient Iconia, or at least when she uttered the words "I recommend ..."

scarling

littlesarbonn wrote: »

scarling wrote: »

Kagrans voice makes me want to have his babies. He must live because of this. Also I applaud his position in midnight. It is all our faults for not killing sela.

But I did kill Sela. And then I killed the Iconians before returning back home to a present where the Federation was at peace and never went to war against the Iconians because they never existed. Unfortunately, the evil Bunny King took over the galaxy without the Iconians to stop him, and now we all pay homage to His Most Hoppity. But it was better than listening to Sela continue to drone on about the time line.

I always wondered where Easter came from. This explains alot.

drakethewhite

kamiyama317 wrote: »

I was disappointed that we couldn't do things Sela's way and just kill all the Iconians. Why all the dialog options when you're forced to to help the Iconians anyway?

Because Cryptic can't really manage a MMO using only a single forced storyline, asking them to have a real decision in a mission is too much for them.

Not that any other game has managed it either for the setting as a whole, but a few have managed it for specific instances. Here they can't even give us custom looks for Fleet bases...

jasonyeefong

If we end Kagan, then no more, "The troop transports are heading towards the planet"

artan42

thay8472 wrote: »

artan42 wrote: »

Thanks to his competency reboot and his performance in the last episode he can consider himself under my protection from Sela.

No. He dies.... If this was possible... why didn't we just do this from the beginning?

Because... um, plot?​​

protogoth

jasonyeefong wrote: »

If we end Kagan, then no more, "The troop transports are heading towards the planet"

Cryptic already fixed that.

alcyoneserene

gradii wrote: »

Feel free to doom yourself I'll stick with the Romulan Republic, alliances or no it's a better option by now.

Without derailing the topic, I'll happily 'doom' myself sticking to my image of RSE as a symbol of an independent faction and of a diverse species which, like any other (including Humans as Ferengis of all people had to point out), has had its share of troublesome times to learn and grow from as opposed to appear by magic as some utopian federation wonderland, and makes IMO for a more interesting and realistic story than good guys vs bad aliens from some bad dimension, including Sela's own mistakes and shortcomings which was a pleasure to read and follow. I really hope this means more content that involves Romulans.