FED/KDF BOFFs Revamp ?

avengerkid1993

Hi guys

I was wondering: romulans have Battle Cloaks mounted on every ship, plus their singularity power, and they pay these with a lower power level (-40) and a battle cloak that doesn't work really good (you know, if you have 5 singularity levels, your cloak is nearly useless, and sing powers usage starts a 5 sec cooldown on the cloak (and cloak starts 5 sec cooldown on sing powers).

That said, Roms still have a STRONG edge over FED and KDFs.
ROM BOFFs are great: Superior Romulan Operatives are OP.

Ok, FED and KDF still can get their rom boff at the embassy, but:
1 - Superior Romulan Operatives are TAC ROM MALES ONLY.
2 - Operatives are TAC ONLY
3 - Their price is really really high.

Also, it would be ... inappropriate to see a FED/KDF ship with more romulan that FED Boffs

So thats the point: what about giving FED and KDFs BOFFs some good space traits ?
Let's say it: pirate (nausicaan), leadership (human) and the Lathean traits are TRIBBLE compared to Romulan Operatives and Reman Infiltrator.

markhawkman

Pirate is actually a decent damage bonus since it's not base damage.
Efficient.... used to be op back when it was a flat +1 to all power levels.... now it's not very useful.
Leadership works decently well.... for what it does. It greatly reduces the duration of subsystem disables.

salazarraze

It would be nice if there weren't a "go-to" way of using boffs in space. There was a thread earlier about having all boff races potentially having a space trait that was locked to their race. I generally agreed with that. Klingon's would have something combat related, Vulcans would have something science related etc.

thedarkphenoix

I would love to see more space traits for Fed/KDF Boffs that are on par with SRO and Infiltrator. Pirate is a good starting point for a KDF trait though it needs a little more to it, as well as Improved and Superior versions

As an example:

Superior Pirate
+5% damage
+450 stealth
+15% crit severity when attacking targets rear arc


Federation Boffs are a little more difficult... But one idea for a Betazoid Boff comes to mind...

Telepathic Targetting
+550 to stealth perception
+1.5% crit chance
+15% critical severity vs ships under cloak

rmy1081

markhawkman wrote: »

Pirate is actually a decent damage bonus since it's not base damage.
Efficient.... used to be op back when it was a flat +1 to all power levels.... now it's not very useful.
Leadership works decently well.... for what it does. It greatly reduces the duration of subsystem disables.

Leadership also boosts passive hull regeneration. With the Kobali set, hull repairing nanites trait, all human boffs, and the engineering pilot ship trait, one can get a bit over 120% in combat passive hull regeneration.

davefenestrator

Whenever this comes up, my response is: Make traits separate from races, and give us a way to genetic resequence boffs.

I'd like to be able to use whatever species I want without worrying about losing DPS. Let me have an all-Vulcan science ship where the Vulcan tacs are Superior Operatives and the Vulcan engineer has Leadership.

All-Gorn crew? Pirates and Operatives. All Reman crew? Pirates and Operatives. All Talaxian crew? Superior Tricksy Hobbitses

kyrrok

maybe they should not have the traits stack one on top of the other. pardon me while I hide from the soon ensuing tomato throwing.

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nightken

dark4blood wrote: »

avengerkid1993 wrote: »

Hi guys

I was wondering: romulans have Battle Cloaks mounted on every ship, plus their singularity power, and they pay these with a lower power level (-40) and a battle cloak that doesn't work really good (you know, if you have 5 singularity levels, your cloak is nearly useless, and sing powers usage starts a 5 sec cooldown on the cloak (and cloak starts 5 sec cooldown on sing powers).

That said, Roms still have a STRONG edge over FED and KDFs.
ROM BOFFs are great: Superior Romulan Operatives are OP.

Ok, FED and KDF still can get their rom boff at the embassy, but:
1 - Superior Romulan Operatives are TAC ROM MALES ONLY.
2 - Operatives are TAC ONLY
3 - Their price is really really high.

Also, it would be ... inappropriate to see a FED/KDF ship with more romulan that FED Boffs

So thats the point: what about giving FED and KDFs BOFFs some good space traits ?
Let's say it: pirate (nausicaan), leadership (human) and the Lathean traits are TRIBBLE compared to Romulan Operatives and Reman Infiltrator.

^One the first problem here is that ROMULANS are not the problem, it is the lack of unique space traits on ALL BOFFs, which should lead to a revamp where all races can get a unique space trait or a unique ground trait. Romulans deserve all the special powers they get as the INVENTED cloak in the first place. Klingons stole it, Federation stole it, and the only species that used cloak in the Delta Quadrant was the Voth. So, with that in mind it makes COMPLETE sense that they are better at using something that they invented and always put more research in improving. Even the BOP that could fire while cloak was invented in conjunction with Romulans to make a prototype. Cryptic won't ever do this because simple balancing this game will never happen unless they can monetize it, and after 5 years I don't they even consider balance something to consider.

actually klingon traded d-7s for cloaks. which is why in TOS you see romulans in a klingon ship and why klingons have cloak in search for spock.

markhawkman

rmy1081 wrote: »

markhawkman wrote: »

Pirate is actually a decent damage bonus since it's not base damage.
Efficient.... used to be op back when it was a flat +1 to all power levels.... now it's not very useful.
Leadership works decently well.... for what it does. It greatly reduces the duration of subsystem disables.

Leadership also boosts passive hull regeneration. With the Kobali set, hull repairing nanites trait, all human boffs, and the engineering pilot ship trait, one can get a bit over 120% in combat passive hull regeneration.

Also true. I was just mentioning it since Heralds spam subsystem disables.

avengerkid1993

dark4blood wrote: »

^One the first problem here is that ROMULANS are not the problem, it is the lack of unique space traits on ALL BOFFs, which should lead to a revamp where all races can get a unique space trait or a unique ground trait. Romulans deserve all the special powers they get as the INVENTED cloak in the first place. Klingons stole it, Federation stole it, and the only species that used cloak in the Delta Quadrant was the Voth. So, with that in mind it makes COMPLETE sense that they are better at using something that they invented and always put more research in improving. Even the BOP that could fire while cloak was invented in conjunction with Romulans to make a prototype. Cryptic won't ever do this because simple balancing this game will never happen unless they can monetize it, and after 5 years I don't they even consider balance something to consider.

I agree: in fact I proposed to give FED/KDF BOFFs new space traits, not to nerf ROM BOFFs