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Pilot Raptor

captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
in Klingon Discussion
Did they TRIBBLE up on the scaling of the Pilot Raptors or is this going to be a copy & paste T6 BOP.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    ? What kind of scaling would they TRIBBLE up? What do the Raptors have to do with the Bird of Prey?

    The Pilot Escorts and Raptors and Warbirds are all awesome to fly. Whether you like their looks or scale might be a different matter.​​
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  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    Well, they are on the small side, if you compare them to any other Raptor.
  • captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
    The Pilot Raptor is the same size as my B'rel, change skin add battle cloak, universal stations =T6 BOP.

    Yeah got 2, tac, eng, & i love them.

    Got 2 BOPs aswell.

  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Klingon Pilot raptors don't get battle cloak last I checked.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Not sure how you equate the Pilot Escorts as Birds of Prey.

    - They don't have the ALL Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't pay the -1 BOFF Skill Slot Penalty for having an All Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't have Battle Cloaks, only Standard Cloaks
    - They don't pay the -1 Console Slot Penalty for being a Bird of Prey
    - They don't look like a Bird of Prey B)
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Not sure how you equate the Pilot Escorts as Birds of Prey.

    - They don't have the ALL Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't pay the -1 BOFF Skill Slot Penalty for having an All Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't have Battle Cloaks, only Standard Cloaks
    - They don't pay the -1 Console Slot Penalty for being a Bird of Prey
    - They don't look like a Bird of Prey B)
    - You forget the -1 Weapon Slot penalty for the incredible turn rate.

    Which I believe is now rivaled by the Pilot Raptors. Which is basically the biggest link to the BOPs - incredible manoeuvrability.​​
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    If you choose the shortest neck, with the widest wingspan, and the cannons that stick out the longest at the wing tips, you can actually get it to look rather close to BoP.

    That happens to be how I set mine up. I'll try and get a screen cap and post it later.
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    This looks rather close to a BoP in my book.

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153692
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153700

    Yes, I am using the Aegis set to help with the effect.
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    This looks rather close to a BoP in my book.

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153692
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153700

    Yes, I am using the Aegis set to help with the effect.

    You're right! That does look very close to a BOP! Nicely done! You could definitely fly that as if it were some kind of experimental hybrid BOP/Raptor. All top secret under wraps of course.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Not sure how you equate the Pilot Escorts as Birds of Prey.

    - They don't have the ALL Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't pay the -1 BOFF Skill Slot Penalty for having an All Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't have Battle Cloaks, only Standard Cloaks
    - They don't pay the -1 Console Slot Penalty for being a Bird of Prey
    - They don't look like a Bird of Prey B)
    - You forget the -1 Weapon Slot penalty for the incredible turn rate.

    Which I believe is now rivaled by the Pilot Raptors. Which is basically the biggest link to the BOPs - incredible manoeuvrability.​​

    Ah thanks for reminding me about the -1 weapon slot thing for 6 total at endgame. When this game launched BOPs had the same 4/3 weapon slot as Escorts. But Feds were bitching about it so Cryptic nerfed it down to 4/2.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Not sure how you equate the Pilot Escorts as Birds of Prey.

    - They don't have the ALL Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't pay the -1 BOFF Skill Slot Penalty for having an All Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't have Battle Cloaks, only Standard Cloaks
    - They don't pay the -1 Console Slot Penalty for being a Bird of Prey
    - They don't look like a Bird of Prey B)
    - You forget the -1 Weapon Slot penalty for the incredible turn rate.

    Which I believe is now rivaled by the Pilot Raptors. Which is basically the biggest link to the BOPs - incredible manoeuvrability.​​

    Ah thanks for reminding me about the -1 weapon slot thing for 6 total at endgame. When this game launched BOPs had the same 4/3 weapon slot as Escorts. But Feds were bitching about it so Cryptic nerfed it down to 4/2.

    I don't remember a time where the Bird of Preys had 4/3 ever. Are you sure that happened? I wasn't here immediately on release of the game, but I was here within the first 4 months or so.
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Not sure how you equate the Pilot Escorts as Birds of Prey.

    - They don't have the ALL Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't pay the -1 BOFF Skill Slot Penalty for having an All Universal BOFF setup
    - They don't have Battle Cloaks, only Standard Cloaks
    - They don't pay the -1 Console Slot Penalty for being a Bird of Prey
    - They don't look like a Bird of Prey B)
    -They don't have the variable mode wing nacelles either.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    This looks rather close to a BoP in my book.

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153692
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153700

    Yes, I am using the Aegis set to help with the effect.

    Simply beautiful
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    • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      potasssium wrote: »
      This looks rather close to a BoP in my book.

      http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153692
      http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153700

      Yes, I am using the Aegis set to help with the effect.

      Simply beautiful
      Ooh I'm so tempted now to get the pilot raptors, but

      Ungh

      I want Birds-of-prey, not raptors. :(

      Still, that's some good ship costuming.
    • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
      stofsk wrote: »
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      potasssium wrote: »
      This looks rather close to a BoP in my book.

      http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153692
      http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527153700

      Yes, I am using the Aegis set to help with the effect.

      Simply beautiful
      Ooh I'm so tempted now to get the pilot raptors, but

      Ungh

      I want Birds-of-prey, not raptors. :(

      Still, that's some good ship costuming.

      I also like to see T6 birds of prey, particularly a Hegh'ta.

      Aside from not having universal boff posts all around, pilot ships are quite fun.
    • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
      I bought all the Pilot raptors. I think I'm going to set a ship up like this. I currently don't have a BOP. This will be my experimental BOP hybrid ship. Top secret of course.
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    • delerouxdeleroux Member Posts: 478 Arc User
      Klingon ships without battle cloak feel wrong.
    • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
      edited October 2015
      I have given up on a t6 BOP. But I will say that these ships are almost what I wanted anyway. The 5th weapon makes up a bit for not flanking by nature. The pilot moves allow so much cheeze ... you can constantly fling yourself backwards while pedal to the metal is still active keeping good damage on a stationary/slow target. You can get out of many different kinds of attacks with it. The pilot skills have some uses... immunity to kinetic damage can be slick, pattern lambda can be interesting, etc. Then there is the big stuff .. 5 tac consoles, check, cmdr and ltcmdr don't have to be same type (I consider all ships where these are the same to be badly designed and the primary reason BOPS rocked). Pretty much, apart from not flanking, and uni officers, its exactly what I wanted in the t6 bop ... its not 100% but its very, very good.

      I regret the matha purchase now. That thing never did perform, lacking surgical, it was always way, way behind and is now a total loss IMHO.

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