Triple Bonus "Make-up" day?

ak255

Regardless of who was effected the ddos attack (I think that's what it was) last Sunday during the Triple Bonus weekend that gave us double Marks, Dilithium, AND skill points/expertise, I really think we should get a make-up day for it, even if it's a simple 12 hour make-up. I know it's not Cryptic's fault (for once), but I still think it's fair to those who lost out on it because of not being able to play the game.

bubblegirl2015

I second this but would be very surprised if they do re-schedule it. With so many players fed up with the state of the lag and walking out, anything would help to get this bad image out of Cryptic's face.​​

chiyoumiku

I don't think they should because there's been a lot of "demanding" on the forums like the players own this game. If some hacker causes issues the entire development staff is blamed by the fanbase because omg the game is down and I can't do anything else with my life. It would be nice if they did but they are not required to do so.

protogoth

Perhaps they will, once the attacks have been rendered impotent. What would be the point, after all, of redoing the event if it were still susceptible to the same sort of disruption?

seaofsorrows

Yeah, right now.. what would be the point?

The attacks are still happening, it would just be more frustration.

Even when it's over though, I doubt they will do this. It would be nice, but I certainly don't expect it.

xparr15

Though I personally think that a "make-up" day would have been appropriate, the window for it has passed with the event already being over.

On a side note, the more people ask, the less likely I think it is that we will get any kind of make up. That would just send the message that hacking attempts are a successful method of getting more rewards, which is not a good message to send.

leemwatson

ak255 wrote: »

Regardless of who was effected the ddos attack (I think that's what it was) last Sunday during the Triple Bonus weekend that gave us double Marks, Dilithium, AND skill points/expertise, I really think we should get a make-up day for it, even if it's a simple 12 hour make-up. I know it's not Cryptic's fault (for once), but I still think it's fair to those who lost out on it because of not being able to play the game.

Sorry, but no. Why is it fair that Cryptic gets held for ransom, because of some kid's wobbler!? Heck, people might start doing it continually just to get more rewards from them. This was not Cryptic's fault, and I don't blame them for not bowing down to a malicious act of cowardice!

kyrrok

There's doing the right thing, such as announcing a new make up triple-double event after the series of attacks, and there's a middle finger alternative, saying "Attacks during event? can't log in? too bad!" The attacks are likely to get the person some serious jail time. Would people really risk federal attention just to get some more xp/dil/whatever? If so they should just plead insanity. In cases like these, unfortunately it's either Cryptic running the same event twice when they only planned on it once, or you're punishing plenty of players who likely helped the numbers accomplish making this possible.

leemwatson

kyrrok wrote: »

There's doing the right thing, such as announcing a new make up triple-double event after the series of attacks, and there's a middle finger alternative, saying "Attacks during event? can't log in? too bad!" The attacks are likely to get the person some serious jail time. Would people really risk federal attention just to get some more xp/dil/whatever? If so they should just plead insanity. In cases like these, unfortunately it's either Cryptic running the same event twice when they only planned on it once, or you're punishing plenty of players who likely helped the numbers accomplish making this possible.

Sorry, but it only take Cryptic to cave once to this type of attack for some people to realise they can take advantage of it. Cryptic has done the right thing in this case. The attacks robbed some people of about 2-3 hours of play-time out of 96 hours, so giving another 96 hours as compensation for a malicious attack out of their control is not justified.

storules

Shows a weakness to the system and what...they can't do much to resolve it. I see vultures circling on a juice feast in here ​​

protogoth

To all of you predicting that such a move on the part of Cryptic/PWE would encourage more of the same sort of thing:

No, it wouldn't. I've seen other games publishing companies do bonus events to make up for lost time due to DDoS before, and it didn't result in more of the same.

kamiyama317

Whats to stop the attacker from doing another DDOS during the make-up day? If his objective is to anger the fanbase and make Cryptic look bad (which it is) it would be an ideal time for him to launch another attack.

The only way for this to be permanently resolved is with the attacker behind bars.

mayito2009

I think trying to do it right now would a wasted effort because the (insert Klingon word you please to describe the kid doing the DDOS) would still try to spoil the fun, even yesterday the site was attacked again. So maybe they may hold on for a while.

kyrrok

mayito2009 wrote: »

I think trying to do it right now would a wasted effort because the (insert Klingon word you please to describe the kid doing the DDOS) would still try to spoil the fun, even yesterday the site was attacked again. So maybe they may hold on for a while.

Allow me to insert the words pile of bak'tag

happyhappyj0yj0y

chiyoumiku wrote: »

I don't think they should because there's been a lot of "demanding" on the forums like the players own this game. If some hacker causes issues the entire development staff is blamed by the fanbase because omg the game is down and I can't do anything else with my life. It would be nice if they did but they are not required to do so.

Um... while the players don't own the game, they do pay for it. If the players aren't happy and paying the devs don't get to have fun things like job security, or potentially food, shelter and good stuff like that. While the developers may not "owe" the player anything, they do have to earn those dollars, and if they can't keep a stable, healthy service going... well... you can't expect people to be super psyched to pay them for said service, now can you?

And if not being able to keep a stable service isn't their fault? That's not really the players' concern. If a meteor hits a car in a sales lot, well hey, that's not the fault of the car salesman but you probably don't want to buy the car with the meteor-shaped hole in it despite that fact.

leemwatson wrote: »

Sorry, but it only take Cryptic to cave once to this type of attack for some people to realise they can take advantage of it.

Except, you know... people then have to do things like pay money to rent botnets to be able to do it, which is kind of a disincentive. And the potential jail time and fines associate with that sort of stuff aren't a thrill either.

On the other hand, Cryptic really just has to have consumers at a certain level of unhappiness for them to stop paying, or worse for them to walk away from the game entirely and never pay again.

puttenham

chiyoumiku wrote: »

I don't think they should because there's been a lot of "demanding" on the forums like the players own this game. If some hacker causes issues the entire development staff is blamed by the fanbase because omg the game is down and I can't do anything else with my life. It would be nice if they did but they are not required to do so.

guy, lol.. "demanding" lol.. im sorry, but this isnt just about the ddo attack on sunday.. this is a reacuring problem.. there is not a week that goes by where the game has run good. its been one excuse and mess after another.. everytime we have an event, something happens.. everytime we have a release.. something happens..

stop feeling all boo hoo for cryptic and the development team.. im sorry, they are paid to do a job just like you and me are.. if you and i fail to do our job one week, ok, maybe we had a bad week.. this game has been suffering fromthe same issues time and time again since launch. this is beyond a woops, or a bad week..

as far as us owning the game.. in a way, we do. do i think we should dictate policy... no... but.. if every single player stopped playing, and spending, cryptic would not exist.. this is an mmo, in a very competative and tight market.. there is no room for the amount of mistakes this company makes.. both in and out of the game..

and dont forget, never, have i ever felt as abused in a game as i do in this one.. with comments against the player base from employees of cryptic.. i work part time in customer service, and if i ever vented like some of the devs have at the customer, id be packing my bags and finding a new job..

dont pull the poor cryptic badge, its been done a thousand times before, and the game still suffers from the same problems people tried to defend years ago... the difference is there is alot less players now than there were then..

mayito2009

Just give me a free carrier and I would be happy. :

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architect13

chiyoumiku wrote: »

I don't think they should because there's been a lot of "demanding" on the forums like the players own this game. If some hacker causes issues the entire development staff is blamed by the fanbase because omg the game is down and I can't do anything else with my life. It would be nice if they did but they are not required to do so.

Yes lots of demanding . . . demanding less lag, demanding less rubberbanding, demanding less disconnects . . . the nerve of the players.

storules

kyrrok wrote: »

There's doing the right thing, such as announcing a new make up triple-double event after the series of attacks, and there's a middle finger alternative, saying "Attacks during event? can't log in? too bad!" The attacks are likely to get the person some serious jail time. Would people really risk federal attention just to get some more xp/dil/whatever? If so they should just plead insanity. In cases like these, unfortunately it's either Cryptic running the same event twice when they only planned on it once, or you're punishing plenty of players who likely helped the numbers accomplish making this possible.

Here's the makeup day since you asked for it....(sarcasm detected):

XP Weekend, originally scheduled on 9/24, has been moved to a later date.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9565193-star-trek-online:-release-notes:-september-24th,-2015

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iceeaglex

ak255 wrote: »

I really think we should get a make-up day for it, even if it's a simple 12 hour make-up.

I agree 100%.
12 hours is more than enough. I mean, i'm either sleeping or working for most of the day, so 12 hours is heaps.
Now, lets see, from 12 midday to 12 midnight would be best for me. This is of course Australian Eastern Standard Time.

Which is about, 12 midnight to 12 midday for Americans. You guy's will be sweet right?

Lets ask for something then try our best to TRIBBLE over half the world eh. Good plan.

bubblegirl2015

Guess not coming any time soon...Great marketing ploy​​