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So, I don't know what's the plan for PVP...
However at the moment, it seems quite... not alive. And since it is not alive.
What is stopping us from having a Romulan Star Empire / Tal Shiar faction once more? No more alignment to Fed / KDF, but finally, on our own. Being by ourselves, we get to remove the strangers on our ships. We can have DOFF assignments with a legitimate Romulan flavor to them, rather than borrowed assignments from whichever alignment we chose. No more strange Romulans performing Klingon operas and strange requests to avenge a sibling's dishonor.
It can be a late game / end game decision, or C-store token, to go Romulan Star Empire. Or with the potential time travel stories coming up with New Dawn, maybe it can be story related - Romulus saved.
Besides, in STF like CCA and many others, it doesn't even matter that KDF and Fed were / are at war, they still work together anyway. It can work the same for Romulan players who have been separated from their crutches.
And if PVP comes back to life again..
We already have PVE scenarios where there's AI vs AI vs Players in a 3 way battle, I don't see how mind boggling it could be to let there be Rom Vs Fed VS KDF player scenarios.
Though the Feds will probably be no-shows and will be crying foul play due to the cloaking devices...
I do play a Fed myself, and if I go PVP, I fully expect to die, because.. I am being realistic, and not applying the main character syndrome we sometimes have, where we... believe we are the hero of the story and must always win. In PVP... it's war. And in war, you can expect to die.
Anyway, I digress. Romulan Star Empire revival?
However at the moment, it seems quite... not alive. And since it is not alive.
What is stopping us from having a Romulan Star Empire / Tal Shiar faction once more? No more alignment to Fed / KDF, but finally, on our own. Being by ourselves, we get to remove the strangers on our ships. We can have DOFF assignments with a legitimate Romulan flavor to them, rather than borrowed assignments from whichever alignment we chose. No more strange Romulans performing Klingon operas and strange requests to avenge a sibling's dishonor.
It can be a late game / end game decision, or C-store token, to go Romulan Star Empire. Or with the potential time travel stories coming up with New Dawn, maybe it can be story related - Romulus saved.
Besides, in STF like CCA and many others, it doesn't even matter that KDF and Fed were / are at war, they still work together anyway. It can work the same for Romulan players who have been separated from their crutches.
And if PVP comes back to life again..
We already have PVE scenarios where there's AI vs AI vs Players in a 3 way battle, I don't see how mind boggling it could be to let there be Rom Vs Fed VS KDF player scenarios.
Though the Feds will probably be no-shows and will be crying foul play due to the cloaking devices...
I do play a Fed myself, and if I go PVP, I fully expect to die, because.. I am being realistic, and not applying the main character syndrome we sometimes have, where we... believe we are the hero of the story and must always win. In PVP... it's war. And in war, you can expect to die.
Anyway, I digress. Romulan Star Empire revival?
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But I also think the Empire is long gone. The Republic is where it's at.
Perhaps Sela can organize a reunification since she has been humbled.
Too much (read: more than zero) work for not enough payback from Cryptic's point of view. They've pretty much said that Roms and Klinks don't get stuff because they don't sell enough to payback the development cost.
So work with what we have, because we ain't gettin' anything else.
--Red Annorax
No, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the way to "divide" the Romulans properly was not to force a choice of alliance between the KDF and Starfleet, but to give us a TOS-style RSE faction and a TNG-style RSE faction, the Star Empire split into two groups at war with one another. A review of this forum will also demonstrate that there is ample rivalry for that to have been successful (and probably more so than the RRF has been).
But as it happened, I would rather have the New Romulan Republic than regress back into a polity based on the ridiculous notions that nobility is genetic and that the way to get ahead is by stabbing your leader in the back (literally or figuratively) and proclaiming yourself Emperor/Empress/Praetor/whatever. Ideally, there should be 3 Romulan factions: 1. a TOS-style Imperial Romulan State headed up by Empress Donatra, 2. a gaggle of incompetent twits led by "Empress" Sela under the aegis of the "Romulan Star Empire" and following the fascist bullyboy model of the TNG RSE, and 3. a New Romulan Republic guided by D'Tan.
And no, the Republic is not "Federation with Romulan flavor" or "Federation dressed up in Romulan garb." It's cute (to some) to parrot what others have said, but it's a baseless claim, and it was baseless when others said it first. In order for it to be anything more substantial than abusive ad Hominem, it would need to be the conclusion of a deductively valid argument, and such an argument has never once been presented, only bias (because I want to be a Romulan version of Gul Dukat! *whine* That's what the Romulans from "the shows" were! *whine* NO! Even if the Romulans in TOS were the original portrayal and the development of Romulans before there was even an idea of "Trek canon" lasted some 20 years before The New Guys came along and rewrote the whole galaxy, it's only the Romulans in The New Guys' vision who were "real" Romulans, because I never saw TOS till after I grew up watching The New Guys! *whine*) and slogans (Romulans are living in tent cities, are begging for scraps from the Fed and Klink tables, are Feds in green, etc ad nauseam), which do not for rational discussion make.
The Star Empire was once honorable, but as of 2410, it has been something diseased for several decades, and it's time to let it go. Pull out the feeding tube. Take it off the breathing machine. Cut off its hideous blond head and kick the corpulent body down the steps beside the Monument to the Man Who Gave His Life to Save Romulans and Remans.
It seems that Sela can't poke her snout above ground without someone proclaiming that the RSE is coming back. In that vein, I am declaring a new Romulan holiday. Sela Day. If Sela see's her shadow, we get six more weeks of brutal dictatorship nostalgia.
Someone needs to introduce Romulans to piñata's so we can have Sela ones to beat on Sela Day.
[ Still Waiting for a Shiny New T6 Romulan Science Ship to Command ]
I'm very, very close to putting this in my signature.
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My forum single-issue of rage: Make the Proton Experimental Weapon go for subsystem targetting!
It's certainly sig-quote worthy, due to the truth of the comment. Every time we've seen her rear her ugly mug, we've seen someone in-game and/or in the fora beating the drum and chanting "RSE! RSE! RSE!" and other such nonsense. We even had one guy who would NOT shut up after he hit T1 Iconian Rep with ridiculous blather like "Now we have a chance! Sela is on our side now!" and kept on bugging us about how we needed to sign a treaty of alliance with the RSE so we would be able to defeat the Iconians. Yeah, no, she's on her own side, and never has been, nor ever will be, on anyone else's side, and the only treaty the RSE will get from me is one of unconditional surrender on their part. As far as I'm concerned, their only options are "unconditional surrender or total annihilation." And although my main answers to D'Tan, I sincerely hope he's not so gullible as to offer them any other terms, because I do not wish to have to place him under arrest for treason and declare martial law until a suitable replacement can be elected. Hey, there's a reason I chose to ally with the KDF on my first Romulan.
What I expect is that we'll have some sort of situation like with the Preservers or Taris, where Cryptic ignores them for as long as possible before quietly sweeping them under the run and pretending they were never a 'thing'.
Playing as a proper member of the Tal Shiar would mean a player would become ground bound. Without an assigned ship. Because an assassin or agent provocateur does not need one in the normal course of their duties. Covert operatives assigned to deep cover missions on an enemy capital planet do not require a ship for the same reason. A Tal Shiar player would be solely concerned with and assigned missions relevant to the internal security matters of the Star Empire. So Featured Episodes for such a player would be mostly surveillance of ordinary Rihannsu going about their regular lives. Phone taps. Hacking email accounts. Setting up cameras to catch the objective in an unguarded moment. Interrogating known associates of the objective. And finally, arresting the objective to place them in a kangaroo court just before executing them. Ask yourself: How Star Trek would this be?
My suggestion, OP? Go and find the dozen or so other people who want to be a playable part of something which is dead and best forgotten and RP with them. You and the rest of the moustache twirlers can hatch nefarious plots in the Chat Window to your heart's content. You might even get the chance to type in a <Mua-ha-ha-ha> or two.
Note the OP said Tal Shiar/Star Empire. Two different things-despite Cryptic's frequent conflating of the two, we do have recent confirmation that the 'normal' Imperial armed forces still exist, and both the Tal Shiar and Imperial Navy use both ground forces and ships, so playing Imperial/Tal Shiar does not mean being ground-bound. Seriously-have you played a Romulan character at all? the entire Romulan arc is about fighting Tal Shiar-often in space.
Trying to paint the Tal Shiar/Romulan Star Empire as not ' star trek' is completely ignoring the fact that you can engage in piracy, torture, slavery, summary executions already as a Klingon in this same game. It's also dodging the fact that both the Tal Shiar, Romulan Star Empire (and Klingon Empire) all exist in Star Trek and by definition is Star Trek. It's not 'starfleet-like' but Klingons and Romulans =/= starfleet. They have their own set of cultural and moral values which can oftentimes be at odds with accepted Federation values.
Heck, there was (is?) a Klingon episode where you get the choice of either returning a Romulan captive to his Klingon captive to be explicitly tortured slowly to death or being hunted, murdered, and made into a trophy by Hirogen. Another had you (personally) torture a Federation captain for information before murdering him and using his ship for 'target practice' ...after he begs you to spare the lives of his crew. How 'Star Trek' is that?
Rather transparent strawman, you have there.
Well, if you have to pretend that the Klingon content that has you murdering, slaving and torturing never happened, or that having covert missions somehow precludes the possibility of having space content in order to make your argument, then yes, you have made a strawman.
See? I can cherry pick ideas almost as well as you can.
All of these, "We wanna play RSE/Tal Shiar!" seem to be started by the same dozen or so people anyways. Why should Cryptic go through all the expense and effort to create yet another faction for a dozen people? Who probably would only pllay as RSE/Tal Shiar for about a month or two anyways before they left the game.
Romulans have always been a sideshow in Star Trek. No reason the change that now.
Rather transparent Tu Quoque you have there.
I don't think there are even 12 anymore, as more and more (apart from those whom I will here dub "the most fanatical devotees") see what the Star Empire has become (* see note below). But that's the point some of us have tried repeatedly to make plain to the handful (whatever their number), the fact of their being in a rather small minority. In fact, in the earliest days after LoR was live, as I recall, there were 5 or 6 who were constantly raging in this forum about (*ahem*) their "struggle" and how they had been so put upon "by Cryptic". The majority of people active in this forum, on the other hand, were at least content with the Republic.
* Note:
And I do wish that "the most fanatical devotees" would stop blaming Cryptic for what the RSE has become. While a couple of Cryptic's RSE/Tal'Shiar characters are less than ideal in their development, the source of such weakly-developed characters is TNG (on all sides, not just the RSE, or do I need to repeat my satire against Lt. Cmdr. Pinocchio, Cmdr. Quagmire, et al?). The blather about Cryptic is also rather (*ahem*) transparent, and more so when one notes that some of "the most fanatical devotees" seem to have a hate-on for Cryptic which long predates LoR and is only marginally connected to Cryptic's presentation of the RSE/Tal'Shiar. "The most fanatical devotees" should therefore take their beef with Cryptic out of these discussions. But then I suspect they would have far less bile to spew ...
Post script:
Let's look back at some of the rhetoric used by the Tal'Shiar/RSE advocates:
Victim routine? Check.
Scapegoat(s) established? Check this at least twice.
Appeal to patriotism (note this is not the same thing as authentic patriotism)? Check.
Appeal to "traditional" values (note this is not the same thing as authentic practice of ethics)? Check.
Intense nationalism? Check.
Glorification of war? Check.
The Big Lie? Check.
Argumentum ad Nauseum? Check.
Straw Man? Check.
Tu Quoque? Check.
Abusive ad Hominem? Check.
Irrationally intense pro-imperialism? Check.
Irrationally intense anti-republicanism? Check.
Goodness, they're only missing "appeal to the middle class" and "racism" ...
No, most of us (on both sides) are just tired of this TRIBBLE. It's been done to death in this forum ever since LoR went live, and even the RSE supporters know that the likelihood of ever having an RSE faction in STO is slim to non-existent. This forum is a lot calmer than it used to be. A lot calmer. And I think that most of us, on both sides, would prefer that it stay that way.
What does the ERA, have anything to do with with the Romulan Empire being an empire?
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Equal Rights Amendment? Earned Run Average? Era as in time period? What are you talking about?
Another laundry list of accusations against folks who have the audacity to prefer the RSE to Cryptic's purely monetarily-motivated Republic? I suppose I should go through the standard-by-this-point ritual:
Then some lovely straight-up old-fashioned ad-hominim by trying to paint those who disagree with you as mere Cryptic-hating malcontents. Even if it were true (it isn't, speaking for myself) it would just be the fallacy of Poisoning the Well'. Can't get much more transparent in your fallacies than here. Now onto the meat:
Victim routine?....when someone complains about being compared to TRIBBLE, Stalinists, or the KKK, or complains about ad hominim attacks they are not 'Playing the victim card'
Scapegoat(s) established?....I actually have no idea what you are talking about here specifically. Could you clarify please?
Appeal to "traditional" values... Heaven knows you'd never do this...like all the times you have insisted that the 'Imperials' are the aberration and not the real/original Romulans because they didn't appear in TOS? To the point of essentially taking the position that 'canon' Romulan traditional values is whatever you like and that any book/show that contradicts your views doesn't count.
Appeal to patriotism
Intense nationalism?
Glorification of war?
The Big Lie? ... I see your continued willful inability to separate what's a roleplay argument (like an argument from the position of an imperial romulan) from what isn't. Rather absurd considering how ready you generally are to share your RP fantasies about massacring/'reeducating' or otherwise purging the imperials-particularly Sela, but even other posters.
Tu Quoque?...I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why any of the posts you have labeled Tu Quoque is actually Tu Quoque. Saying it is so is not the same as proving it. Seriously, the post immediately above the one I'm replying to, you are guilty of that.
Argumentum ad Nauseum...The only reason they get brought up so much is because you seem incapable of actually addressing said arguments without resorting to dishonest means (like by labeling them ad nauseum in order to avoid them)
Straw Man?...Outside of RP arguments, I can't really think of anything, but I don't think that remotely counts.
b]Abusive ad Hominem[/b]...I don't think you get to claim this if you yourself can't seem to go two posts without referring to those you disagree with as lackeys, thugs, Tal Shiar/TRIBBLE/Stalinist sympathizers, sycophants, fanatical, etc in an attempt to weaken their argument by attacking their character, particularly if you turn around and accuse them of playing the 'victim card' if they complain.
Irrationally intense pro-imperialism? Check.
Irrationally intense anti-republicanism? Check.
Who's the judge of irrationally intense? These accusations could just as easily (and have been) leveled at you.
You appear to love the Fallacy Fallacy when combined with the Proof by Assertion fallacy- responding to posts you disagree with by claiming it's a fallacy with the implication that this somehow makes your position right (it doesn't-fallacy fallacy) and that by claiming something is a fallacy it is proven to be a fallacy-again, not so.[/b]
How about you actually address things in context for a change, instead of latching onto something I've said in a single post and turning it into a Straw Man? Case in point:
Argumentum ad Populum. Nope, not even close. Consider the context of the entire thread. Particularly, the first paragraph of my first post in this thread:
Get it? Let me just go ahead and emphasize the bit you're trying to gloss over in your gleeful effort to pretend to understand things you don't understand:
As for "proof," yeah, no. Evidence, however, I have told you where to find, MULTIPLE TIMES, and you have REFUSED to even look at the evidence. Your gang was the group that first claimed to be in the majority, but when it became evident that you were not, you simply chose to ignore the evidence which shows that you're not, so I called it to your attention, again and again, and you kept telling me that I needed to go do XYZ. I believe this is known as "Moving the Goalposts." So, again, no. You started the TRIBBLE. You were shown to be wrong. You refuse to admit that, and every time you are reminded of it, you try to deflect the burden of proof onto someone else.
Cryptic-hating malcontents and Victim routine. No, I did use the modifier "some" in the comment about having a hate-on for Cryptic prior to LoR; had I said "all" or omitted any modifier, then you might have some grounds to get your knickers in a twist over this, but I did not, so you do not. The victim routine is connected to the claims made by you and others that Cryptic excited you into supporting a Romulan faction and then didn't give you the flavor of Romulan you wanted, and that the blame for the RSE/Tal'Shiar being so one-dimensional and cartoonish villains rests on Cryptic's shoulders, when in reality, it rests on the shoulders of those who gave us the RSE of TNG and the Tal'Shiar. I have never once compared anyone in this forum to a Stalinist or KKK member. Find one place where I have done so. You cannot.
Scapegoats. For your ilk, Cryptic and/or PWE and Diane Duane are the OOC scapegoats, and Spock and D'Tan are the IC scapegoats, whom you accuse of somehow having been responsible for this perceived travesty.
Appeal to "traditional" values. No, hoss. I do not claim, and never have claimed, that TNG Romulans are not "true" Romulans. You and your bunch are the ones who keep trying to ignore that there are Romulans who are not backstabbing, conniving, untrustworthy fascist villains, even in TNG. I've even explained multiple times in multiple places how the change in factional power came about, but you won't accept that, because it's soft canon. The simple fact of the matter is that, even in the soft canon which we MUST resort to in order to have anything remotely akin to a fleshed out culture for Romulans, there are good and bad Romulans. Just like everybody else. Good and bad. But you want the Romulan faction to be a planet of hats wearing only the hat which was generally worn in TNG, and yet have the gall to complain about Cryptic giving us "one-dimensional" NPCs.
Separation of IC and OOC postions. Almost everybody in this forum RPs in this forum. Deal with it. I do. However, I also note that the overlap between IC and OOC perspectives is often rather obvious. I could reference a now-removed thread or three from the General Discussion forum for evidence in some particular forumites' cases, but I would prefer not to drag that drama over here. We have enough drama of our own without that nonsense added to the mix. Aside from that, bringing up comments made in threads which were deleted for very good reasons would venture into forbidden territory (not my rule, but PWE's). Suffice it to say that so-called IC "traditionalism" is often expressed by those who have expressed similar OOC views.
Tu Quoque. Do you even know what this means? It doesn't seem like it. In an attempted defense of having a Tal'Shiar/RSE faction in-game, you pointed to actions undertaken by the KDF faction in-game. How much more obvious can it be? The fact that X does Z does not justify Y doing Z. The point you missed, just as you did at the beginning of your attempted "critique" of my post, is that there are more KDF players than there are Romulan players all together, much less those who would prefer to play in a TNG-RSE and/or Tal'Shiar faction. For the Devs to do something, there usually has to be sufficient RoI. That's a business term there, RoI. Stands for "Return on Investment." 12 people (I'm feeling generous) aren't going to give sufficient RoI.
Argumentum ad Nauseam and The Big Lie. Some people have borrowed a page from someone else's "struggle" and made OUTRAGEOUS claims, and even when those have been shown to be false by screenshots from in-game, they have repeated the same OUTRAGEOUS claims over and over again. You know who I'm talking about, a certain occasional poster in this forum whose avatar shows his allegiance to be other than Romulan (of any persuasion), and whose user name demonstrates his tendencies.
Straw Man. You're particularly guilty of this one, and particularly in relation to my posts, taking isolated statements out of context, twisting them into something they are not, even "paraphrasing" my words in a way that makes them seem to support things I have never once advocated.
Abusive ad Hominem. You do realize that not all "insults" are examples of this fallacy, right? The fallacy occurs when someone attempts to change the subject to a personal attack and gives no justification for the attack. Whether you "like" it or not, the Tal'Shiar IS a secret police force as well as a civilian intelligence agency. In that, there are few real-world historical examples to which one can point, but yes, the Gestapo is one of them. "Sycophants," "lackeys," "thugs," and "fanatics" are terms I have applied to the rank and file of the Tal'Shiar which Hhakhifv preferred, never to another forumite, but it's inconvenient for you to admit that, because you're still playing victim, as you have done for two years and more in these discussions. "Tal'Shiar sympathizers" I may have used solo a few times (and if so, it was in threads specifically calling for being allowed to play Tal'Shiar), but I at least generally use "Tal'Shiar/RSE sympathizers" or "RSE/Tal'Shiar sympathizers," and what other name could I use for those who wish to play as Tal'Shiar and/or TNG-style RSE? Seriously? Imperialists? I've used that a few times as well, but perhaps it's telling that you didn't include that in your list of alleged ad Hominem characterizations. Again, never called anyone a "Stalinist" or a "Stalinist sympathizer." TRIBBLE? Well, duh. The parallels between TNG-RSE, and especially Tal'Shiar, and the TRIBBLE, is rather obvious.
As for "fallacy of assertion," I'm calling projection on that one. And fallacy fallacy? Unlike you, I did study all of this as an undergraduate. Logic was my focus in my Philosophy major. If I call something a fallacy, I have good reason for doing so. There are numerous websites you can go consult if you don't understand what the terms mean. I generally recommend Fallacy Files and Rational Wiki. If you still don't get it, you could always ask, instead of pretending that you understand the terms and that I'm misusing them.
And before you complain again about the length of my posts, here's the deal: I can take every post you make, point by point, and critique, only to have you reply with some rhetorical jackassery like "tl; dr" or how you got bored after the first paragraph or some other such ad Hominem, or I can reply only to bits (because, you know, I do run multiple fleets, have a life outside the game, and have people talking to me online most of the time I'm replying to you, and simply don't always have time to address every point you made) and have you claim that I can't answer all your claims. Again, moving the goalposts. You want a full critique? Then take the time to actually read it and reply to it, or don't bother vomiting any more of your trolling in reply to me. I stopped replying to you once before because of this kind of thing. Even other TNG-RSE-sympathizers have pointed out to you that you're obnoxious and misrepresent facts and twist other people's posts and hijack threads, which is why I often suspect you of being only a troll -- a mildly clever troll, but still only a troll. But perhaps I'm being uncharitable in that occasional assessment. Maybe you're a contrarian instead.
The point being, RRF players get an option to realign themselves and go 'Independent'.
And about Sela or Hakeev, and no one wanting to be their lackey or friend, then sure. Introduce a new character or bring a different side character into renewed focus to be the leader. Or D'Tan can evolve the RRF from being dependent on their allies to being more independent. That's all.
If the term "RSE" brings up too much PTSD for some, why not just focus on the idea of having DOFF assignments with better flavors rather than 'perform a klingon opera", and access to other costumes or ship designs.
And since you proposed it as an option, so a choice, no protest was raised, because people could choose NOT to go independent. Everybody's happy!
I don't think it's going to happen, but I so much wish it would. It makes Romulan life so complicated when one can't team up with another Romulan because "they are not the same allegiance".
I kinda ... did. Return on Investment. It's a lot of work for a small number of people to pay for; and based purely on forum activity alone, the company would have to charge a rather steep price to get sufficient RoI, and hope that every one of the pro-TNG-RSE bunch was willing to pay that price.
Hhakhifv is dead. Sela is widely disliked even by pro-TNG-RSE sympathizers. Donatra is Borgified. tr'Toma-Lax the Eternally Constipated is (probably) dead. tr'Ruul is in a Republic holding cell. Starfleet personnel killed t'Janek (or at least had the option to do so in some mission, or so I'm told). I'm not sure who's left to take on that role.
"Dependent on their allies" ... "DOff assignments" ... The only "dependence" I'm seeing is the fleet system, and in particular, the fleet holdings (the only one with distinct Fed or KDF appearance being the starbase, and a few cosmetic projects for the other holdings which add KDF or Starfleet/UFP banners and the like). Solutions for this have already been proposed. You realize that RRF players do get exclusive RRF DOff assignments, as well as allied DOff assignments, yes?
We would all like for the RRF to have full faction status, but that does not necessitate the removal of the alliance system (and it certainly does not mean forcing us into a situation in which we have to start our fleets all over again from scratch). As I have pointed out many times before, sovereign polities can and do have allies. A much more player-friendly (and realistic) solution to the fleet system issue is to unbind species from factions, make faction allegiance dependent on fleet membership, and give full faction status to the RRF, such that a fleet leader like myself could choose the allegiance of her/his fleet between any of the three factions, current fleet members could choose to stay in the fleet and thereby have their alliance match that of the fleet or leave to go find a fleet whose allegiance they prefer, and give fleet leadership the ability to select between cosmetic appearances to better fit the allegiance of their fleet (the projects would need to have been done before they could be changed, of course, but having us do them all over again once we've already done them is not remotely satisfactory). Once the allegiance of the fleet were chosen, it would be permanent, and in order to prevent players from changing fleets (and potentially thereby allegiances) easily, some penalty would need to be in place for those moving from, say, a KDF fleet to an RRF fleet, or vice-versa.
Now, we have left the matter of ships to deal with. That's going to be a thorny issue, but it's not going to be insurmountable. There would be some players who would be irate if, say, an Orion left the KDF and joined an RRF fleet and got to take her Mogh or Vo'Quv or B'rel retrofit with her. There would be others who would complain that such a situation was unrealistic. Yet Taris defected -- with her fleet -- to the Imperial Romulan State under Donatra, and while that was a Romulan fleet defecting from one Romulan polity to another Romulan polity, it does demonstrate that the charge of an unrealistic situation ignores precedent (not only in the STO universe, but also in real world history, since this sort of thing has also happened in real world history). Some might prefer that a defector should, post-defection, be allowed only the use of the vessels of her/his new allegiance. I would say rather that such a defector could retain any ships already obtained (Cf. the Taris example again), and be able to reclaim those from the C-store, but the only new ships she/he could buy from the C-store and the Shuttle and Ship Requisitions console/NPC would be restricted to those of her/his new faction, and part of the penalty for returning to her/his original faction would be loss of those new ships (or rather, replacement with faction-appropriate equivalents -- which would necessitate that Cryptic actually begin to work on parity between the three factions, especially in terms of ships). There are other possible solutions to the ship issue, of course, but that's my suggestion.
In the aforementioned case, should a Vo'quv Captain resign his commission and go join the Romulan Republic (for whatever reason), realistically, the Klingons would, with perfect justification, demand that their Romulan allies return the ship to them. They would probably also demand extradition of said captain for grand theft starship, and failure to do so would create a huge diplomatic incident. The same goes or he other factions, as the Romulans would hardly let any of their officers run off to the Federation with a battle cruiser in tow, an vice versa, as the ship does not belong to them.
Klingon Houses own ships (pretty sure that's even so in hard canon). Romulan Houseclans own warbirds, and even Romulan Senators own fleets of warbirds (while that's from soft canon, it's fairly extensive throughout, with even LUG's "The Way of D'era" saying the same).
Starfleet is the odd one out.
But again, sometimes "realism" has to take a back seat to player customization in an MMO. And again, as I have suggested many times (particularly in reference to T5 and T6 versions of "old" ships), the given premises of an SF universe, and particularly the Trek universe, allow for disguise, Trek in particular giving us holoemitters which can make any ship of any tier look just like a 23rd century D7 (as seen, for example, in "Night of the Comet"). The Lobi Consortium even sells holoemitters to make a ship appear to be a Gekli, for example.
Say I'm a grizzled old Klingon who has gotten tired of J'mpok's blather and decides to defect to the New Romulan Republic. I'm used to my Klingon ships. Even if I have to get a Romulan warbird, what possible reason could there be for not allowing me to strap a holoemitter to the thing to make it look like my old Klingon ship?
Perhaps I should also add "player convenience." Do you have a solution that won't inconvenience the players? Note: do you have a solution? The status quo (Two and a Half Factions, starring a Level 100 Q with #Targblood, still #Winning) is not a solution, because the status quo is the issue which needs a solution.