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greymatter81
Member Posts: 5 Arc User
How well does this work out? I recently started playing again and have been getting intrigued with the science powers. I do have a sci captain (currently at level 52) but have always really enjoyed playing my eng captain due to the survivability (also seems the easiest to play on ground missions as well, but I am not a big fan of the ground missions).
I have a few c-store ships so I can run quite a few different ships (although most are cruisers I do have the Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit, the Intrepid refit, and the Vestas) but I am also not opposed to getting other c-store ships but it might be a while.
I do plan on getting into a fleet at some point but have been trying to learn the game since there have been many changes since I last played.
I have a few c-store ships so I can run quite a few different ships (although most are cruisers I do have the Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit, the Intrepid refit, and the Vestas) but I am also not opposed to getting other c-store ships but it might be a while.
I do plan on getting into a fleet at some point but have been trying to learn the game since there have been many changes since I last played.
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postinggum
Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
It trades surviveability and power for team friendly space magic, with some sci abilities being dependant on aux power levels the eng has some advantage - siphon duration depends of aux power, the damage from a lot of exotic damage powers, level of healing etc. Part gen abilities have been boosted by a trait from the R&D sysetm thats unlocked at level 15, this makes the need for higher aux all the more important.
These days with the pilot specialization, iconian space set and reciprocity starship trait there is more speed tanking going on, which somewhat makes the engi park n shoot and not getting blown up approach old-fashioned; that said the highest dps sci is probably a Vesta with dual beams and faw, which kinda suits an engi as it is a slower moving target. For Fed reciprocity comes with @ 3k zen, pricey for a trait if the ship doesn't appeal. Remember the T5 ships like Vesta can be upgraded with an upgrade token c-store/exchange.
The summer event gaveawy a nice ship the nandi ferenghi destroyer, that has a decent amount of sci, hull, mobility and 8 weapon slots, like a bigger T'Varo.0 -
mustrumridcully0
Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
greymatter81 wrote: »From what it sounds like it is doable? If I use one of the Vestas will the cannons on it work or are there better things that I should use? I do not have much EC to use on the exchange and I am in the process of leveling up my R&D since it was reset with the R&D Revamp. I am also working my way through the new episodes and the reputations.
Try it out, but personally I think the cannons are a bit of a trap:
- The cannons drain your Aux Power, and that means your Aux power is lowered when you use your science abilities.
- If you use a gravity well oriented build, you probably also want to use torpedoes, especially some of the Reputation or Crafting torpedoes (Particle Emission Torpedo, Gravimetric Torpedo, Neutronic Torpedo), since they come with slight AoE effects that basically multiply in effectivenss when you have enemies trapped close together inside the gravity well.
(there is a bit of a compromise option there, the "torpedo farting" maneuver as I liked to call it - use the DHCs with CRF or CSV, when it runs out, fire of a Grav Well, turn the hsip around to fire your torpedoes buffed with a Torpedo Spread.)
The Vesta should serve you wel, especially if upgraded. It used to be the best science vessel in the game, and even if it's not Tier 6, it's still pretty much a top science vessel.
If you later want a Tier 6 ship, all 3 Federation options are good. The Pathfinder has the most visual customziation options, if that is relevant for you. The Scryer has all the science abilities plus its an intel ship, so you can also develop it into a different direction, and Intel abilities do work well together with science ones. I am not much a fan of the Dauntless, but this is mostly based on visual preference - I tried to get out of it as soon as I learned the ship mastery associated with it, and never really tried anything fancy with it.Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.0
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Granted I don't have as much,time,money or skills invested in that toon... But It can do some serious damage.Presently resting at 25k dps with all Free traits and very low on specializations, while my beam torp hybrid wells sits at 52k. Vesta is a good ship, but the Fleet Dauntless is pretty good too. I separate these from setups like the Scryer and Pathfinder (to me 'Standard')sci ships.
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I ran a couple of alerts and the setup seemed to be pretty decent even though I have not respeced into it. Still trying to decide if I want to do it on this char or also get my sci char leveled to 60 and setup this way (already is partially, he has the spec for the most part just needs the gear).
I may not be happy with the damage I was doing previously because of the gear I have. Working on my rep to get the better torps, so will see how that goes. I think I do need to start working in the rep of my sci char because I do like what I see and would be interested to see how it would perform on him.
I also need to get a meter of some sort to see what the performance really looks like vs what I feel it works like.
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Topologically speaking, Vesta and Scryer are homeromorphic anyway.
Only the Vesta can do that, and only on it's specialized fore DHCs.
It's not that hard nowadays to have very high, or even maxed, levels of both Aux and Weapons anyways, so not a huge problem on non-Vestas. A W->A core and KHG/Adapted MACO and a few points in Aux and other power Skill will have you sitting at decent Aux levels on the weapon preset.