For the sake of story telling... what classic technology do you associate with Romulans, other than with Klingons... CLOAK... oh yeah... they assimimlated them... that's their iconic tech.. Can't be much more than that honestly.
They already assimilated Romulans in the "original" timeline, and Klingons. It doesn't make any real sense.
well, remember Hakeev was also monkeying with borg tech. In khitomer ground we learn the romulan borg drones are faster and smarter than normal borg. One could assume these borg joined the collective when they invaded romulan space.
Well if you wanna get technical... when the Borg assimilated the Klingon carrier in one of the earliest Borg STFs, it uncloaks... as well as the assimilated Scimitar
Well if you wanna get technical... when the Borg assimilated the Klingon carrier in one of the earliest Borg STFs, it uncloaks... as well as the assimilated Scimitar
Yeah...they use the cloak on Romulan or Klingon ships...all I can figure if maybe without their *uberness* they didn't have the tech to make it work properly on their own ships?
Maybe they couldn't cloak something as big as a Cube and they figured cloaking Spheres or Probes wouldn't be super effective?
Maybe cloaking technology was incompatible with Borg tech without this advanced tech they assimilated?
Just spit balling a little...
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Yeah...they use the cloak on Romulan or Klingon ships...all I can figure if maybe without their *uberness* they didn't have the tech to make it work properly on their own ships?
Maybe they couldn't cloak something as big as a Cube and they figured cloaking Spheres or Probes wouldn't be super effective?
Maybe cloaking technology was incompatible with Borg tech without this advanced tech they assimilated?
Just spit balling a little...
Pretty much this. It was stated several times in Canon that cloaking big ships with normal cloak would distort space, which would be inefficient, since this distortion could be tracked down.
They already assimilated Romulans in the "original" timeline, and Klingons. It doesn't make any real sense.
It appears they don't always learn everything there is to learn from them. They might have needed more than the basic tech to improve it to cloak their bigger ships, and that required Romulans that had the knowledge or skill to do that.
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Before, they didn't care for cloaks because their M.O. is to inform the target of their desire to assimilate them and them break down their defenses. In the alternate timeline, they've decided to take a sneakier route.
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You do realize that the Borg are the same folks that often ignore you (at first) when you board their ships and structures. Then, when they do decide to attack, they bleep and bloop as they activate right in front of you, stepping out of nearby alcoves to begin to lumbering toward you as they spout off assimilation propaganda.
The Borg have never been a subtle group, so even if they had cloaking tech all along, it probably got filed away as "irrelevant" because it can't directly blow things up or assimilate more efficiently. The Borg utilizing cloaking ships (a signature Romulan ability) in this episode was probably the devs' way of showing us that not only had the Romulans been totally dominated, but that the Borg had also gotten smarter.
The influence of a race of billions of cloakets suddenly being assimilated.
They also assimilated their fashion sense.
Did you see Borg Hakeev still sporting his giant shoulder pads?
The influence of a race of billions of cloakets suddenly being assimilated.
They also assimilated their fashion sense.
Did you see Borg Hakeev still sporting his giant shoulder pads?
When I played the episode for the first time and got to the borg ground part, I actually muttered something along the lines of, "so when does an assimilated Hakeev crawl out of the shadows?"
This, it separates this version from our version. It is pure "Trek". It is no different from space gangsters, Goatees on mirror Spock, Space Romans, etc, etc....
I mean, it's not like they didn't have the technology before, to use cloaking devices!
Why now, are they figuring it's such a brilliant idea?
I figured, they thought the technology, was futile and inferior!!!
They assimilated cloak-capable ships before. Cloaking tech isn't a big deal for them. But all the sudden it is in the new FE.
I also laughed a little when Jarok said that the Klingons stole cloaking technology from the Romulans. Because the Klingons got it in a trade with the Romulans back in Kirk's time. The Klingons got cloaks while the Romulans got badly needed D-7 hulls and better power sources. It seemed Romulan shipbuilding had fallen behind by TOS timeframe, as well as power plants. Their Warbird in "Balance of Terror" had all kinds of limited power issues that led to its downfall. Next we see the Romulans, they're sporting a bunch of D-7 Cruisers and not having those technical problems the ship had in "Balance of Terror."
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Well they did say the Borg made advancements in tech...maybe they couldn't make cloak work before?
well, remember Hakeev was also monkeying with borg tech. In khitomer ground we learn the romulan borg drones are faster and smarter than normal borg. One could assume these borg joined the collective when they invaded romulan space.
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Yeah...they use the cloak on Romulan or Klingon ships...all I can figure if maybe without their *uberness* they didn't have the tech to make it work properly on their own ships?
Maybe they couldn't cloak something as big as a Cube and they figured cloaking Spheres or Probes wouldn't be super effective?
Maybe cloaking technology was incompatible with Borg tech without this advanced tech they assimilated?
Just spit balling a little...
Pretty much this. It was stated several times in Canon that cloaking big ships with normal cloak would distort space, which would be inefficient, since this distortion could be tracked down.
The other reason is of course: Plotpoint.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
The Borg have never been a subtle group, so even if they had cloaking tech all along, it probably got filed away as "irrelevant" because it can't directly blow things up or assimilate more efficiently. The Borg utilizing cloaking ships (a signature Romulan ability) in this episode was probably the devs' way of showing us that not only had the Romulans been totally dominated, but that the Borg had also gotten smarter.
They also assimilated their fashion sense.
Did you see Borg Hakeev still sporting his giant shoulder pads?
So predictable.
They assimilated cloak-capable ships before. Cloaking tech isn't a big deal for them. But all the sudden it is in the new FE.
I also laughed a little when Jarok said that the Klingons stole cloaking technology from the Romulans. Because the Klingons got it in a trade with the Romulans back in Kirk's time. The Klingons got cloaks while the Romulans got badly needed D-7 hulls and better power sources. It seemed Romulan shipbuilding had fallen behind by TOS timeframe, as well as power plants. Their Warbird in "Balance of Terror" had all kinds of limited power issues that led to its downfall. Next we see the Romulans, they're sporting a bunch of D-7 Cruisers and not having those technical problems the ship had in "Balance of Terror."
I barely could tell it was Hakeev much because we were busy vaporizing him.