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deffjurkedeffjurke Member Posts: 43 Arc User
I wasn't certain if there was a thread for this.

Is it really worth buying an upgrade token for a T5 ship if a T6 version is coming out? I mean, is it worth it to upgrade a T'varo to T5U if a T6 version were to be released? I don't want to waste any zen.

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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    While it's up to every person's personal preference look at it from this way, you buy the token on the exchange for EC.
    And also the new T6 ship will cost you 3k zen and the token only 700, so there's that.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I’d put such a decision on the waiting time if you have hints what is to come next.

    One thing is for certain. Cryptic releases ships faster than ever. It almost feels like they terribly need cash infusions or something. It would not surprise me if we have the entire Tier 6 portfolio of previous Tier 5-U ships within the next 3 months.

    The only upgrade token I ever used was on the scimitar only to replace that ship with the free nandy a few months later. I do not regret that but would not upgrade my Defiant or Prometheus ships atm.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User

    One thing is for certain. Cryptic releases ships faster than ever. It almost feels like they terribly need cash infusions or something. It would not surprise me if we have the entire Tier 6 portfolio of previous Tier 5-U ships within the next 3 months.

    Yeah really seems that way. Would be really nice if some of those infusions would be hooked up to their bugfixing department 'cause god knows, they would really need it.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited July 2015

    One thing is for certain. Cryptic releases ships faster than ever. It almost feels like they terribly need cash infusions or something. It would not surprise me if we have the entire Tier 6 portfolio of previous Tier 5-U ships within the next 3 months.

    Would be really nice if some of those infusions would be hooked up to their bugfixing department 'cause god knows, they would really need it.

    Yep there. :|

    What make it especially disturbing is that all the efforts (spec trees) and recourses (ship traits) we spend on game are most likely responsible for the bad game performance we get in form of laggy space runs while ground seems to be much better of.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    deffjurke wrote: »
    I wasn't certain if there was a thread for this.

    Is it really worth buying an upgrade token for a T5 ship if a T6 version is coming out? I mean, is it worth it to upgrade a T'varo to T5U if a T6 version were to be released? I don't want to waste any zen.

    As long as you understand what you get taking your ship to T5U or going all the way into T6. There are Pro's & Con's either way you go. There are inarguable improvements a T6 ship has over it's T5 and T5U version. Whether it's enough to go the next tier up or going at a lower performance increase for lower cost with T5U. Or to put it in more common terms... Tier 5.5 instead of going Tier 6.

    Examining the stats will tell you what you need to know what you get out of T5/T5U/T6. But since STOwiki is worthless in seeing T5U stats, I'll leave this official news release about the difference of T5U and T6 from before Profits Rising came out.
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7002133

    I stress that T5U is a bargain. It gives SOME of the perks of T6 but not the full deal. Understand that first and foremost.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    As noted before, it's about when you want the ship and what exactly you want out of it.

    T5-U ships are yours at this very moment. T6 ones may or may not come.

    T5-U ships get all the stats of the appropriate T6 variant except the additional 13th Boff slot, some specialization slots and a starship trait upon mastering the T6 version.


    So obviously T6 is better, but assuming you've got the T5 version, it's more expensive to rebuy the ship at full price.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
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    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    I'm just going to say this and be done with the T5FU's (and the F don't mean fleet). Plenty of us got bamboozled.
  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    I only go for asthetics, so if the new T6 is ugly as hell or i dont like it (happens most of the times) i will never ever buy that ship. T6 are not "better" than T5 or T5U, anyways, so.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    I also held out on buying fleet ship modules for the B'rel. No point if there will ever be a T6 variant, which if I buy it, will make the T5 a complete waste of cash as I've bought it late and rarely even used it yet as it's been taking a while getting the T6 traits from the Nandi & Sarr considering how little I played space KDF lately, plus there's no worthwhile console from the T5 variant that could be used in a T6 at the very least.

    I've always wanted a Rom Sci ship, but seeing the real meaning of gimmicky (outdated) consoles on the Dysons, and how underwhelming T5FU class continues to be in some cases such as a Flagship C-Store Odyssey vs newer T6 cruisers (obvious on both lowly alts and high end tank builds), plus the lockout on the deflector and set behind a lobi store (wasn't a member for that event) is truly sufficient to just abandon hope for Rom Science unless they make a T6 version and that hopefully looks decent and not like a toy like some of the newer KDF ships, or like a rush job like rom pilot ships.

    Also considered a Prometheus, but not with a broken MVAE console where you still have to come to a full stop to separate, only to end up with nerfed separation units. If a T6 variant comes without a MVAE console, forcing us to also buy the T5 for it, then a T6 without separation is no longer a Prometheus, but then if it has one, what's the point of the T5 console that does the same thing?

    Either way not a lot of things make sense to me at the moment, and instead of looking forward to ships to get as in with the T5 era, it's waiting and saving on T6 remakes of the ones we may already own (vestas, rom-dreads, odyssey, b'rel) or those we wanted but in light of T6 no longer seem worth it (rom dysons, fleet b'rel, T'varo, prometheus) or existing T6 that might be interesting but are lower in priority than what could be up next (Rom Commands, Morrigu, Jhu’ael).

    I'm also waiting to see how they will treat our existing 3-pack ships. It's fun flying the Tulwar over the Scimitar for example, but if only 1 T6 variant replaces them but still (hopefully) uses their 3 consoles for a 4 console bonus, that's already a load of consoles that better get some very good set bonus to actually make up and surpass UR or Gold consoles for all those slots (now totaling 8,000 zen), but then reducing flexibility with a 5-Tac layout. Releasing 3-packs as another T6 follow-up 3-pack might fix the lack of flexibility, but then you're either looking at 6,000 zen for a ship that may or may not look that much better than existing ones with parts that have to fit (Avenger was good enough for me but just barely), or retiring 2 of the 3 T5s for just 1 of them at 3k zen.

    Options are good, but right now it's too confusing, and an expensive game that doesn't fix serious issues or introduce new PvE scenarios or gameplay dynamics becoming more expensive is an issue in itself.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    unless you're a min/max kinda player t5u is plenty, and many people run em in advanced and elite queues w/o issue.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    I only go for asthetics, so if the new T6 is ugly as hell or i dont like it (happens most of the times) i will never ever buy that ship.

    One of the exact reasons I never purchased a Scimitard.

    Actually i bought the 3-pack ages ago, because i always loved the ship. but the ORIGINAL one, the one we all saw in "nemesis" not this monster. I flew it for about 4-5 months and i just parked it. The ship is toooooooo big for my style (well i have other big ships, but i just dont like false sized ships and in the end everything i can achieve with the scimi i can do it with any of the new and half-old shinys, so.. i dont use it anymore lol).

    But almost 3 years later i regret it, because was almost one of the few things i actually bought with real money. But right now i will never replace any of my ships with the scimitar lol.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    Scimitar seems to be one of those polarized ships where people either really like it or really don't. If I really knew how much fun it is to fly and didn't already have em, I'd be the first ship pack I'd buy even now, perhaps second only to the Vestas. There's just nothing like it.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    I personally prefer more challenging to pilot ships, not something that is semi-automatic lolz, like the scimitar.
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