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Anyone want more specilizations before they release more Cruisers?
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Since the odds are very VERY slim they will end up giving Cruisers Pilot abilities does anyone else wish they'd cut down on them till we see another specialization or two before making more T5 to 6 Cruisers?
KDF and RR don't suffer from this as much atm but with them releasing the T6 Excelsior exclusively and nothing but Cruisers for a while cept the Pilot set...these ships are gonna be going against the reason they made T6 in the first place...to reduce bloat on ships with similar builds.
Since it seems they're keeping dual specializations to only premium ships from lock boxes and such, this is just leaving the Cruisers recently being very similar.
The cat is out of the bag and we know some day we will get a Galaxy-X...and I imagine the fan favorite Sovereign will be around some day.
What is the Gal-X going to be? Another Arbiter except with 4/4 and the Lance...or another Galaxy class? Short of giving it Pilot abilities (Which will likely never happen because a Dreadnought is the dead opposite of what ships contain Pilot abilities...unless you somehow consider separation?) there just isn't many options right now that wont make it a virtual copy of other ships.
Same goes for the Romulan Dread in a lesser degree...KDF is different since it will be getting a Escort...
KDF and RR don't suffer from this as much atm but with them releasing the T6 Excelsior exclusively and nothing but Cruisers for a while cept the Pilot set...these ships are gonna be going against the reason they made T6 in the first place...to reduce bloat on ships with similar builds.
Since it seems they're keeping dual specializations to only premium ships from lock boxes and such, this is just leaving the Cruisers recently being very similar.
The cat is out of the bag and we know some day we will get a Galaxy-X...and I imagine the fan favorite Sovereign will be around some day.
What is the Gal-X going to be? Another Arbiter except with 4/4 and the Lance...or another Galaxy class? Short of giving it Pilot abilities (Which will likely never happen because a Dreadnought is the dead opposite of what ships contain Pilot abilities...unless you somehow consider separation?) there just isn't many options right now that wont make it a virtual copy of other ships.
Same goes for the Romulan Dread in a lesser degree...KDF is different since it will be getting a Escort...
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Intel Spec with DR's release in late October 2014
Command Spec in January 2015
Pilot Spec in March 2015
My gut feeling is we'll be in soon for a new specialization. I predict it will either be a Defense/Resist/Repairs/Tanking kind of spec. Or if the stars are aligned right, a Science-aligned one. I'd lean the former to happen more.
My guess on the T6 Galaxy-X? On a very quick glimpse it will be very similar to the T6 Galaxy. But just like at T5, the differences will be subtle but significant.
T6 Galaxy-X
LtCmdr ENG -> Hybrid Station (Just like Galaxy but I bet it won't be Command like the Galaxy)
Same Consoles as Fleet T5U: 5 ENG, 2 SCI, 4 TAC, compared to 5/3/3 of the T6 Galaxy.
Console Set? There's some interesting wiggle room here. There is already a recently revamped Galaxy Set that included the T6 Galaxy's console, all of which could be used in the Galaxy-X. However, the T5 Galaxy-X could use the Cloaking Device Console. On top of that, the T6 Galaxy-X is sure to have a new Console.
The question is if the T6 Galaxy-X's console will build on the revamped Galaxy Set to include the Cloaking Device Console. **IF** that happens, it may very well be whopping 4 or 5 Console Set with 2, 3, 4, possibly 5 piece bonuses. It probably will be very significant bonuses because a 4-5 set is extremely costly in a build and very restrictive. It HAS to be made worth it.
The BOFF layout will be fairly similar. But just like at T5, the Phaser Lance and the more TAC friendly Console Layout of the Galaxy-X will be the big difference.
The T6 Galaxy-X and where it stands among T6 Fed Cruisers? Well, it won't be like the Guardian, a true, Multi-Role Cruiser. It won't be a better TAC Cruiser than the very powerful Eclipse and Avenger/Arbiter. It will only be better in a TAC Cruiser role than the Galaxy. In short, the T6 Galaxy-X does not stand well compared to already existing T6 Fed Cruisers. BUT... It means that the fans of the Galaxy-X will finally get their favorite ship at T6, hopefully with the same visual makeover that the Galaxy got with T6. It was the same deal with the T6 Galaxy. Other T6 Fed Cruisers were better than her, but the fans got her finally for T6 and with a more favorable layout more pertinent to today's STO.
The T6 Ha'apax/Haakona will be a treat for the Roms. It should have a built in Lance. It already had a decent BOFF layout that was just shy of being great. The Fleet T5U Console layout was already favorable. Like the Galaxy, the T6 Conversion will make this ship shine.
T6 Ha'apax/Haakona (for reference is the regular Fleet T5, here)
That same station or the Universal LtCmdr will get Hybrid. The JHSS has proven you can get a Hybrid station on a Universal.
Same Console Layout as Fleet T5U: 5 ENG, 2 SCI, 4 TAC
Throw in the rumored Lance also for T6 version, not to mention the usual T6 ship perks: Starship Trait, new Console. The new console will make a new set with the Haakona Dual Vector Console, which was usable on the Haakona/Ha'apax family.
I can very easily see this ship being a better All Purpose Cruiser than the D'Deridex at T6. The BOFF layout improvements should really push this at T6. I can also see her being a very mean TAC Crusier styled Warbird if you take that LtCmdr Universal to TAC, on top of the predicted, fixed LtCmdr TAC. Yum...
For the KDF T6 Guramba? There's some guessing room because the Guramba never had a T5 Fleet version, which the Fleet Upgrade version is essentially the "base" of T6 converted ships. Only the ancient as hell T5 C-Store version exists. This ship is old, existing long before the idea of ship-specific console sets existed.
T6 Guramba (for reference, the C-Store T5 version)
Lt ENG -> LtCmdr ENG. It *is* a Destroyer.
T5U (again, no Fleet T5U existed) Console Layout is 3 ENG, 2 SCI, 5 TAC. As a "Destroyer" it will continue that trend and take up the typical 4 ENG, 2 SCI, 5 TAC Console Layout at T6.
Consoles - This is a big gray area. First the easy one. The Goomba at T6 will get a new Console. That's a given. However, the T5 version never had one. BUT, the Goomba is a Nausicaan Destroyer and there are several lower tiered Nausicaan Destroyers already in the KDF lineup that *DO* have Consoles.
T3 Nausicaan Vandal Destroyer with Plasmonic Leech Console
T4 Nausicaan Scourge Destroyer with Vent Theta Radiation Console
If a new console set involving the T6, T3, T4 Nausicaan Destroyers is made, that would be awesome and help give the Goomba some extra pull. Because it's going to need it as you'll next see.
The existing and awesome Javelin will of course be there. I also stress it will still be a 4/3 weapons Escort. The Javelin will be important because it will be what sets this ship apart from already existing KDF T6 Escorts. The Matha Raptor is 5/3 and every bit as punishing an Escort as you can get anywhere. The Pilot Ship variants are outstanding ships that are hard to top. Both KDF T6 Escorts are also 5 TAC and 5/2 weapons. The T6 Guramba will be behind compared to that.
Of course, my wall of text is mere speculation, but I've been on the money in guessing these T6 ships right.
I know it sounds really stupid and out of place (I suppose if you've seen my T'varo post I like odd and unique and outside the box builds) I'd like to see some Pilot on the Gal-X...but since that likely wont happen my second choice would be Intel...so at least the Dreadnought can have SS I and feel more like a Dreadnought.
At least Pilot could make the tiniest bit of sense, since the two dreadnoughts can separate and become much more nimble ships and the Guramba is already small and nimble.
For the T6 Galaxy-X, Intel would suit the TAC Cruiser very well. It would let one slot BFAW3, an Attack Pattern, EPTW3, OSS3 for a nifty package.
I think Pilot can work very well with slow ships, some of it better than Escorts. If one reads the fine print of Pilot Spec Bonuses and BOFF abilities, quite a number of it wants you to be in close proximity to allies and/or enemies. "Danger Zone" and "Wingman" for instance, is *impossible* to maintain in an Escort unless it forsakes speed and Bonus Defense. "Form Up" will teleport you close to the allied target. While you maintain close proximity to that ally, you give them a damage buff. Again, for a fast moving Escort, that is impossible to maintain unless one gives up speed and Bonus Defense. But for a slower ship like a Cruiser... That is zero issue at all.
Imagine your "Pilot" Gal-X. Target that one Scimitar or whatever on your team that has buffs going across half the width of your screen and plays like he knows what's going on. Use "Form Up" on him. You teleport alongside him, facing the same direction (this is automatic with the ability; I've used it on Scimitars with my Pilot Ships). Maintain that close distance and that target gets a damage boost.
If you're asking what I think you are...well so far Cryptic hasn't put Pilot on anything that is heavier...so far the heaviest ship with a Pilot slot is the Krenim Destroyer.
I'm just going by that.
Escorts, Cruisers, Science Vessels can be found with Full Intel access (Cmdr Hybrid) in the Fed lineup only. No other Specialization can say that. Nor can the KDF & Roms.
Yeah, and other than Sci ships which they've pretty much said they wont make because they don't sell, there is Command slotting on anything from Escorts up to Cruisers.
Flat out the slowest and largest ship with a Pilot slot still has a turnrate of 14.
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