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Grade The Ship: Resolute Class [T6]

mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
I hope (Trendy and other mods!) this isn't considered making multiple threads, but I thought this would be an actual LOGICAL use for our new poll-making ability. Plus, I'm genuinely curious about this.

The stats are out, we see the visuals, and on the 16th, anyone can buy this ship. So, how would you grade it? Explain your grade in the comments!
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Grade The Ship: Resolute Class [T6] 114 votes

A
10%
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B
17%
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C
26%
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D
23%
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I hate the Excelsior, and it shouldn't be in the game.
3%
aurigas7azurealli4nce[Deleted User]bubblegirl2015 4 votes
Don't care!
18%
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,902 Arc User
    C
    I'll give it a C, simply because it's another Cruiser with Command abilities.

    I think they need to work on some more specializations before they started flooding with all these T6 Refits...
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    C
    I don't mind the Excelsior, and the new skin looks fine/well done.

    However, the trait is underwhelming, the lack of a universal seat is just odd... and the Command BOFF station is, IMHO, a mistake. Maybe I'll get the Fleet version, one day... but, I'll skip it otherwise. (And that would NOT be the case, if it was a Pilot spec seat, devs!)
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Well after looking at more pics of this ship it looks like a stripped down Command Cruiser that got stretched. Seriously i am not a fan of Cryptics original Federation starship designs. And if there were no cannon ships in game, only their designs it would have turned me away from the game 4 years ago due to the having no affection or connection to them or the ST I.P.
    Also the stats are run of the mill. So although again not a fan of the Excelsior getting Tier 6 above more requested and deserving ships at least she hasn't trumped other newer designs with power creep and at least gives those wanting the skin the ability to fly it.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    C
    I love the Excel and the seating though not what I preferred is workable, the only problem is the abomination they call a skin.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    The 2410 aesthetic lost its appeal faster than the 2409 one did.
  • teluasteluas Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    C
    I gave it a C. I actually like the skin, and most of the stats are really good, IMO. Its just to damned Eng-heavy. Yeah, I could drop Command skills in the one slot, but I'm not particularly impressed with those either. Now if that LtC Eng/Cmd slot was a Tac or Uni slot, THEN we'd be talkin! And while they're at it, do something else (ANYTHING) with that ensign Eng slot...
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    C
    teluas wrote: »
    Now if that LtC Eng/Cmd slot was a Tac or Uni slot, THEN we'd be talkin! And while they're at it, do something else (ANYTHING) with that ensign Eng slot...

    I wanted CMDR Eng, LTC Tac, LT Eng, LT Sci, LT Uni/CMD myself, but what we have is workable at least, LTC tac would merely have turned it into a FAWboat like all the others I know for a fact I can't think of anything more boring.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    C
    I gave it a C overall.

    Stat wise, it's pretty average, it's a good ship but nothing that really blows the other ships out of the water. Very capable and has no real glaring weakness. It should serve just about any purpose needed.

    The console is ok.

    The trait honestly seems worthless.

    The Resolute skin is ugly.

    The only reason I gave it a C is because it can use the Excelsior skins, so at least you can make it look good. I know it's a matter of taste, but I have always LOVED the look of the Excelsior. That and the Sovereign are my favorite Cannon Fed ships of all time.

    I really like my Presidio, but truth be told, if I could trade it for the Resolute with the Excelsior Skin, I probably would. It's almost the same ship as it is, but you trade the worthless hanger bay for Weapon Systems efficiency. It's not enough to get me to buy it and abandon the Presidio, but if didn't own either ship, I would probalby buy the Resolute and use the classic Excelsior skin.

    Actually.. maybe not though because the Presidio trait blows this thing out of the water. Still, I give the ship a C.. I'm not overly impressed, but I don't hate it either.​​
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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    D
    I'd pick F but it wasn't available. I wouldn't say the Excelsior should not be T6. But the way they went about it, I'm actually glad they left the Roms and my favorite faction KDF out of this garbage scow sale. The appearance, the stats, the trait, nothing about this is right. And if they are going to have a pea-sized ensign slot, at the absolute least make it universal. I hope the Excelsior fans are more satisfied than I am.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    A
    I give it top marks. It's in-line with current Starfleet design (which I generally like anyways), and it would've been really strange had it been something completely different. The Resolute is a new ship that's a nod to a design from over a century earlier, and it serves that purpose well enough with some design elements - like the neck, main body, and sensor pod on the bottom of the saucer.

    Plus, like all the new ships, it gives you the option of ignoring all the new bits and running with the Excelsior pieces. I also like that they're giving all the old pieces, regardless of whether you own the original or not. That's a nice touch.

    I might pick it up for my Fed alt. Been thinking on which T6 I wanted to get for him, and this might be it.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,513 Arc User
    c.

    Looks decent enough (though i prefer the ambassador), but the stats and trait are mediocre in my opinion.
    Overall I'd say not bad enough to execute the designers (figure of speech) but nothing to be lyrical about either.

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Don't care!
    I have no interest. The command cruisers didn't get me out of my Tac Oddy, this wont. ​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    C might fit it. I kinda like the Excelsior, but it just never really could become my main ship, I think.

    I'd still be interested to see what sort of kitbashing you can pull off, and being able to apply the Type 7 Material is also neat. But I feel more like skipping this one.
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    c.

    Looks decent enough (though i prefer the ambassador), but the stats and trait are mediocre in my opinion.
    Overall I'd say not bad enough to execute the designers (figure of speech) but nothing to be lyrical about either.

    Where's the trans warp!!

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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    B
    Visually, the saucer and nacelles aren't to my liking. Hull and neck are "Excelsior" redone.

    But stats are what matter most and the old Excelsior stats are of course preserved and improved for T6. The old Excelsior's stats were quite solid and the ship was wildly popular at one point in STO.

    For me, stats matter the most. The stats are exactly what I expected. Solid performer. Not Scimitar OP but a solid ship nonetheless. SO a "B" it is.
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    B
    B- actually... It looks ok but I hate the nacelles. And people are right. It should have gotten a pilot hybrid seat.
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    Don't care!
    Not at all interested...still waiting for a lockbox such as temporal T6 or a Scimitar T6. normal-3.gif​​
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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    C
    I gave it C because, while I don't hate it, there is nothing that jumps out at me and says 'buy me'. No wow factor to it.
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  • teluasteluas Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    C
    artan42 wrote: »
    The command cruisers didn't get me out of my Tac Oddy, this wont. ​​

    On this point, I agree. I'm flying a Tac Oddy also. :) I was tempted by the command cruisers, but they just didn't quite do it for me... same with this ship.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I hate the Excelsior, and it shouldn't be in the game.
    Only redeeming feature of the Resolute is the trait. The rest is just the same 125-year-old tin can museum piece in a Command BC kitbash skin. The Fleet T6 Exploration Cruiser tops it in every category except turn rate, which is something you don't need much of with beam cruisers.

    I'll get it for the trait, but there's no way in hell I'm paying real money for it.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    D
    When the Excelsior Refit was released it had something pretty fantastic that made it really stand out from the rest of the cruiser offering, a LTC tac slot and better turn rate than other cruisers. These days that is nice but doesn't quite make a ship that interesting, definitely not unique, and throwing a LTC eng/command makes me look to the Presido and scratch my head. What does this new Excelsior have over that ship? One also has to look at the T6 vet ship for those who have it, and the Resolute is a bit tougher and has cruiser commands, but comes up lacking in most other places.

    The trait is far too specific, and buffs a pair of powers that are underwhelming, and with that tiny 3km radius on it, you're probably going to want to use it on a ship that has a grav well capability, which this ship does not.

    The new aesthetics don't remind me of an Excelsior at all, nor do they look Excelsior inspired or like an updated Excelsior. The neck is distinctive but that is all it has to remind you this is based on an Excelsior.

    The only thing this ship has going for it is the ability to play dress up as the Excelsior, which is honestly the only reason most people will buy it.
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    F

    Fail boff seating is fail.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    Don't care!
    Its a pretty ship. But cruisers don't interest me.
  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    kyrrok wrote: »
    I'd pick F but it wasn't available. I wouldn't say the Excelsior should not be T6. But the way they went about it, I'm actually glad they left the Roms and my favorite faction KDF out of this garbage scow sale. The appearance, the stats, the trait, nothing about this is right. And if they are going to have a pea-sized ensign slot, at the absolute least make it universal. I hope the Excelsior fans are more satisfied than I am.

    Agree. But you know, people in this game really dont care about keeping some ships as they are supossed to be, they just want every single ship they like to be the best ship in the game. A T6 Excelsior is absurd, but it is also absurd a T6 Galaxy or a T6 watever ship you like. Starfleet probably will make just new designs instead of pushing an old design over and over just .. because.

    If you love an Excelsior but it is obsolet, bad luck, but it is how it is supossed to be. Unfortunately people want everything, we could see T6 Mirandas and Connies eventually lol.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    B
    I love the aesthetics of the Excel, and this new T6 one looks rather nice as well, I think it is the best looking T6 Cruiser so far, (Romulan Command Cruisers are still warbirds, so excluded from previous statement.)

    I won't be purchasing it however, too ENG Heavy. My go to Cruiser is the T5U Fleet Ambassador or the T5U Fleet Galaxy-X, although Fed wise I am rocking a T5U Nebula and the T6 Manticore right now.

    If this was Boff & Console layout on a T6 Galaxy -X, I would be spending my Zen.

    I Do think this is a missed opportunity to update the Kamarang or K'tinga for KDF, and since Romulans had D7's in ToS give them the same hull but with Singularity Core and powers. Would have been very interesting. Seeing as I have 7 KDF, 3 ROM, and only 2 Fed, I would have been more inclined to buy.

    I don't feel entitled, simply the less they offer the KDF & ROM, the less I spend, their loss.

    The disproportionate amount of Fed shinies just helps me control my spending. More resources left for upgrading gear.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    D
    It's horrible. Just looks like another Command Cruiser from the three-pack (ships that I deem fugly already), and the attributes of this new design leave little to the imagination. A disappointment for sure.

    I voted D
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Write In Vote: I hate the Excelsior but I don't mind if it's in the game for those who do like the ship.

    As far as ships go, I'm not a big big fan of cruiser play anyway, therefore, the Excelsior / Resolute wouldn't be my cup of tea to begin with...

    However, if museum piece NX-2000 can be in game, gives grounds for other museum pieces as well...​​
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    B
    Here's another picture that shows how completely oversized the nacelles are.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    D
    szim wrote: »
    Here's another picture that shows how completely oversized the nacelles are.
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    Looks more like the Vesper Class now. Horrid!

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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    C
    Statswise not really an improvement. And thus only interesting for new players. It doesnt even look like an Excelsior.
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