An updated "modern" look for it might be nice. Of course it wouldn't make sense from a practical standpoint since it's like taking a Sopwith Camel into a dogfight with an F-22. My take is they should make a completely new ship that bears a resemblance to the ye olde K'tinga.
Given that a T6 Excelsior has been leaked, and if they choose to do another cross-faction 3-pack, a T6 K'tinga seems a likely pair to the Excel, with a T6 Dhelan rounding it out (lore wise, the Dhelan was developed as a counter to the Constitutions, so roughly of an age with the K'tinga and a bit old than the Excels). I would expect the T6 Excel/K'tinga to have a Pilot hybrid.
Given that a T6 Excelsior has been leaked, and if they choose to do another cross-faction 3-pack, a T6 K'tinga seems a likely pair to the Excel, with a T6 Dhelan rounding it out (lore wise, the Dhelan was developed as a counter to the Constitutions, so roughly of an age with the K'tinga and a bit old than the Excels). I would expect the T6 Excel/K'tinga to have a Pilot hybrid.
There goes that hope. They kind of just lobbed the Excelsior out there so maybe this means they acknowledge the K't'inga needs more work than that.
Given that a T6 Excelsior has been leaked, and if they choose to do another cross-faction 3-pack, a T6 K'tinga seems a likely pair to the Excel, with a T6 Dhelan rounding it out (lore wise, the Dhelan was developed as a counter to the Constitutions, so roughly of an age with the K'tinga and a bit old than the Excels). I would expect the T6 Excel/K'tinga to have a Pilot hybrid.
There goes that hope. They kind of just lobbed the Excelsior out there so maybe this means they acknowledge the K't'inga needs more work than that.
There goes that hope. They kind of just lobbed the Excelsior out there so maybe this means they acknowledge the K't'inga needs more work than that.
Yeah...shame though, a T6 K'tinga would be very nice to have. Maybe We'll luck out and they'll do a T6 Vor'cha when the T6 Sovvie is released; not quite the same shape as the K'tinga, but similar...
Not that STO follows this in any way, but if you look at FASA's Klingon Ship Recognition Manual and read the D7/K'tinga parts, you can see that because of the success of the design, the Klingons continued to come out with upgraded variants of this ship. I could definitely see the Empire wanting to pull a K'tinga into spacedock, get a group of good engineers to take a look at it and retrofit it with the latest weaponry, armor plating, shields, cloak, power conduits, etc.
Would be great to see a version come out as a smaller, fast-attack cruiser. Maybe a versatile light cruiser. Wouldn't be the most powerful ship in the game by any means, but I'd bet it'd be popular nevertheless.
I am also down for a Rom T6 D-7, because the Roms actually did use that ship in TOS. And I would love to see the light grey with phoenix TOS pattern on it.
I am also down for a Rom T6 D-7, because the Roms actually did use that ship in TOS. And I would love to see the light grey with phoenix TOS pattern on it.
I'd be "ok" with the "actual K'Tinga" - aka the TMP on - variant getting the facelift, as the T'Varo and Excelsior have their facelift(s).
I'm also all for a "lower tier" Romulan D7.
I'm a bit against the ToS KDF D7 getting anything more than the option to be worn as a T5U11 skin off the appropriate variant. They're the only faction that has their ToS ship as an "endgame" option, and if the "Connies" and "T'Liss" of the universe "are somehow inappropriate", sadly, the D7 should be too... (though I do have a KDF engineer that exists 10% to "round out" my one of each race/class combos, and 90% to someday tool around in a T5U11 ToS D7...)
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
It seems to me, if wishes were horses, there could have been at least a 2-faction pack possibility by making a Tier 6 Excelsior and a Tier 6 K'Tinga. They seem to have been developed around the same time.
(I can't really think of a Romulan ship design that fit the timeline, unfortunately. Unless it's also a K'Tinga).
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Not that STO follows this in any way, but if you look at FASA's Klingon Ship Recognition Manual and read the D7/K'tinga parts, you can see that because of the success of the design, the Klingons continued to come out with upgraded variants of this ship. I could definitely see the Empire wanting to pull a K'tinga into spacedock, get a group of good engineers to take a look at it and retrofit it with the latest weaponry, armor plating, shields, cloak, power conduits, etc.
Would be great to see a version come out as a smaller, fast-attack cruiser. Maybe a versatile light cruiser. Wouldn't be the most powerful ship in the game by any means, but I'd bet it'd be popular nevertheless.
I'd be down with it, or the Kamarang which is a very similar ship getting a T6 treatment.
Heck I'd love a T6 K'tanco.
So far they have only updated the Battlecruisers I don't like, the Mogh & Negh'var, so sooner or later...
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I'd be down with it, or the Kamarang which is a very similar ship getting a T6 treatment. Heck I'd love a T6 K'tanco. So far they have only updated the Battlecruisers I don't like, the Mogh & Negh'var, so sooner or later...
Interesting thought...T6 Kamarag...hmmmm...
That ship always appealed to me, but I never bought it because it always seemed like a K'tinga on a weight loss program. It had the same general design, but the hull was thinner all around. If they beefed up the hull a bit, I would buy that ship in a New York minute!
Hell yeah, there's always interest for the legendary iconics. These things have ageless beauty to them and make the game better for simply being around. I'd be definietly up for a T6 K'tinga.
Not that STO follows this in any way, but if you look at FASA's Klingon Ship Recognition Manual and read the D7/K'tinga parts, you can see that because of the success of the design, the Klingons continued to come out with upgraded variants of this ship. I could definitely see the Empire wanting to pull a K'tinga into spacedock, get a group of good engineers to take a look at it and retrofit it with the latest weaponry, armor plating, shields, cloak, power conduits, etc.
Would be great to see a version come out as a smaller, fast-attack cruiser. Maybe a versatile light cruiser. Wouldn't be the most powerful ship in the game by any means, but I'd bet it'd be popular nevertheless.
I'd be down with it, or the Kamarang which is a very similar ship getting a T6 treatment.
Heck I'd love a T6 K'tanco.
So far they have only updated the Battlecruisers I don't like, the Mogh & Negh'var, so sooner or later...
K'tanco has a weird hardpoint with turrets. They all fire out of the left wing cannon. It looks damn TRIBBLE. No amount of bug reports and forum posts have gotten it noticed, much less fixed.
K'tanco is a really old Klingon battlecruiser design, isn't it? I'm starting to warm up to the T6 Kamarag idea. Just looked over the T5 Fleet retrofit variant. It has some nice options.
Not that STO follows this in any way, but if you look at FASA's Klingon Ship Recognition Manual and read the D7/K'tinga parts, you can see that because of the success of the design, the Klingons continued to come out with upgraded variants of this ship. I could definitely see the Empire wanting to pull a K'tinga into spacedock, get a group of good engineers to take a look at it and retrofit it with the latest weaponry, armor plating, shields, cloak, power conduits, etc.
Would be great to see a version come out as a smaller, fast-attack cruiser. Maybe a versatile light cruiser. Wouldn't be the most powerful ship in the game by any means, but I'd bet it'd be popular nevertheless.
I'd be down with it, or the Kamarang which is a very similar ship getting a T6 treatment.
Heck I'd love a T6 K'tanco.
So far they have only updated the Battlecruisers I don't like, the Mogh & Negh'var, so sooner or later...
K'tanco has a weird hardpoint with turrets. They all fire out of the left wing cannon. It looks damn TRIBBLE. No amount of bug reports and forum posts have gotten it noticed, much less fixed.
ANd I think nothing will happen about it unless they release a Tier 6 variant or somethnig like that. Which seems unlikely.
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Hell yeah, there's always interest for the legendary iconics. These things have ageless beauty to them and make the game better for simply being around. I'd be definietly up for a T6 K'tinga.
And despite how many of us actually state said appreciation for the "ageless beauty" of the D7 / T'Liss / Connie - K'Tinga & Connie Refit would lead to immediate and relatively appropriate spending patterns, TPTB (whether CBS or the Dev Team (leader?)) have determined that outside of the D7, we're not allowed to appreciate our favorites at "endgame"...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Hell yeah, there's always interest for the legendary iconics. These things have ageless beauty to them and make the game better for simply being around. I'd be definietly up for a T6 K'tinga.
And despite how many of us actually state said appreciation for the "ageless beauty" of the D7 / T'Liss / Connie - K'Tinga & Connie Refit would lead to immediate and relatively appropriate spending patterns, TPTB (whether CBS or the Dev Team (leader?)) have determined that outside of the D7, we're not allowed to appreciate our favorites at "endgame"...
Well, TBH, it's only the Federation classics/favourites that we're seemingly not allowed to have. For me it's the Constitution and the NX Classes, and nothing has been said about CBS banning the NX from end-game yet. Personally, I don't buy the Conie excuse either until I hear it from the mouth of CBS themselves, but let's not open that can of worms now and here.
Other than that, I/we do have access to our favourite KDF and Romulan classics at end-game. I activelly use the B'rel and the K'tinga on the KDF side and my only Romulan only uses the T'Varo (I know it's not a T'liss, but I actually wanted a T'Varo.ENT fan here. )
But yeah, I hear your pain, you're talking about the TOS iconics: Constitution, D7, T'liss - and only the D7 is end-game. All legendary iconics that fall into the "ageless beaty" category. Honestly, I see little reason to not have them all at end-game, especially in a game like STO that doesn't stick to the era it's set in, the logical developments that would occur in Star Trek canon or for that matter anything that isn't a theme park experience. Non of the excuses hold water, really.
K'tanco is a really old Klingon battlecruiser design, isn't it? I'm starting to warm up to the T6 Kamarag idea. Just looked over the T5 Fleet retrofit variant. It has some nice options.
Since the back story with the Kamarang was that the design had flaws only more modern tech could fix and make viable, I definitely makes sense that they would continue to upgrade her. Heck that is precisely what got her in the field in the first place.
As compared to her Fed counterpart the Ambassador, which is my favorite Fed cruiser, it makes no sense to upgrade as lore explicitly states not many Ambassadors were built in the first place.
T6 Kamarang Advanced Support Battlecruiser and for the Feds a new Advanced Support Cruiser that replaces the Ambassador. Romulans would get a toy in this vein as well. Personally thinking along the lines of Command Cruisers, but with no hanger or Pets, and instead normal Cruiser or Battlecruiser Commands.
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New Content Wishlist
T6 updates for the Kamarag & Vor'Cha
Heavy Cruiser & a Movie Era Style AoY Utility Cruiser
K'tanco is a really old Klingon battlecruiser design, isn't it? I'm starting to warm up to the T6 Kamarag idea. Just looked over the T5 Fleet retrofit variant. It has some nice options.
Since the back story with the Kamarang was that the design had flaws only more modern tech could fix and make viable, I definitely makes sense that they would continue to upgrade her. Heck that is precisely what got her in the field in the first place.
As compared to her Fed counterpart the Ambassador, which is my favorite Fed cruiser, it makes no sense to upgrade as lore explicitly states not many Ambassadors were built in the first place.
T6 Kamarang Advanced Support Battlecruiser and for the Feds a new Advanced Support Cruiser that replaces the Ambassador. Romulans would get a toy in this vein as well. Personally thinking along the lines of Command Cruisers, but with no hanger or Pets, and instead normal Cruiser or Battlecruiser Commands.
Last night I started playing around with consoles on my T5-U Fleet K'tinga. Got the hull up slightly over 77k and the shield facings near 28k. I'm liking it even more now! I only wish I'd set it up with Anti-Proton instead of Disruptors. Then it REALLY would have been smoking!
Last night I started playing around with consoles on my T5-U Fleet K'tinga. Got the hull up slightly over 77k and the shield facings near 28k. I'm liking it even more now! I only wish I'd set it up with Anti-Proton instead of Disruptors. Then it REALLY would have been smoking!
True, but only Disruptors come in Elite flavor for the KDF, not AP. I'd sell my Spec-Ops ROM BO's for Elite Disruptors on a Fed aligned ROM. That's why I made another ROM, Delta Recruit, KDF Aligned. "Free" Plasmo-Leach included! For the Amazing Price of just $19.95. Order now and get TWO for that same amazing price of just Theta-Nine-Teen-Ninety-Nine!!!!!
Last night I started playing around with consoles on my T5-U Fleet K'tinga. Got the hull up slightly over 77k and the shield facings near 28k. I'm liking it even more now! I only wish I'd set it up with Anti-Proton instead of Disruptors. Then it REALLY would have been smoking!
True, but only Disruptors come in Elite flavor for the KDF, not AP. I'd sell my Spec-Ops ROM BO's for Elite Disruptors on a Fed aligned ROM. That's why I made another ROM, Delta Recruit, KDF Aligned. "Free" Plasmo-Leach included! For the Amazing Price of just $19.95. Order now and get TWO for that same amazing price of just Theta-Nine-Teen-Ninety-Nine!!!!!
I like disruptors on that particular ship because disruptors are a Klingon native weapon. With everything Mk XIV and Epic, it still burns through things pretty fast. But my pilot raptor I outfitted with anti-proton and don't even have all of that Epic yet and it's unbelievable how quick that thing goes through obstacles.
Last night I started playing around with consoles on my T5-U Fleet K'tinga. Got the hull up slightly over 77k and the shield facings near 28k. I'm liking it even more now! I only wish I'd set it up with Anti-Proton instead of Disruptors. Then it REALLY would have been smoking!
True, but only Disruptors come in Elite flavor for the KDF, not AP. I'd sell my Spec-Ops ROM BO's for Elite Disruptors on a Fed aligned ROM. That's why I made another ROM, Delta Recruit, KDF Aligned. "Free" Plasmo-Leach included! For the Amazing Price of just $19.95. Order now and get TWO for that same amazing price of just Theta-Nine-Teen-Ninety-Nine!!!!!
Been tweaking this vessel to see what I can get out of the old superstructure...dropped some of the hull and shield bonuses via Space Traits and picked up the bonus crit chance and bonus crit damage. Hull is still over 73k and shields over 25k, but damage is much better now. I'm going to work on getting those anti-proton weapons installed on it. I can transfer some of the anti-proton tactical consoles from the raptor to the K'tinga...I may have to procure another one of those for the best stack. Will probably take a few weeks for me to get everything Mk XIV and Epic, but once it's done, this K'tinga won't be my father's Oldsmobile anymore!
Despite the T6 B'rel being in the pipeline, I'm holding out for a T6 K't'inga, the current T5U damned fun to fly. Unfortunately, we're probably in for a long wait...
Aside from a more modern appearance, I do wish they'd replace the TMP/TOS models for this -- they're ridiculously chunky, like the proportions were taken from a MicroMachine toy (and don't get me started on the T'liss). As it is, I compensate by using the Koro't'inga skin: It's a gorgeous model.
One thing that bugs me about both fans and Trek's writers is the assumption that these spacecraft are being built using WWII building methods, and somehow their visual appearances limit how they're built. Star Trek, especially in STO's era, has access to fabrication methods that allows them to build pretty much anything, in nearly whatever shape they want. Heck, they could very well build a powerful warship that looks like a Japanese WWII-era battleship, or a runabout that looks like a Winnebago...
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There goes that hope. They kind of just lobbed the Excelsior out there so maybe this means they acknowledge the K't'inga needs more work than that.
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Or they forgot that it existed.
Yeah...shame though, a T6 K'tinga would be very nice to have. Maybe We'll luck out and they'll do a T6 Vor'cha when the T6 Sovvie is released; not quite the same shape as the K'tinga, but similar...
Would be great to see a version come out as a smaller, fast-attack cruiser. Maybe a versatile light cruiser. Wouldn't be the most powerful ship in the game by any means, but I'd bet it'd be popular nevertheless.
I am also down for a Rom T6 D-7, because the Roms actually did use that ship in TOS. And I would love to see the light grey with phoenix TOS pattern on it.
We can only hope...
I'm also all for a "lower tier" Romulan D7.
I'm a bit against the ToS KDF D7 getting anything more than the option to be worn as a T5U11 skin off the appropriate variant. They're the only faction that has their ToS ship as an "endgame" option, and if the "Connies" and "T'Liss" of the universe "are somehow inappropriate", sadly, the D7 should be too... (though I do have a KDF engineer that exists 10% to "round out" my one of each race/class combos, and 90% to someday tool around in a T5U11 ToS D7...)
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
(I can't really think of a Romulan ship design that fit the timeline, unfortunately. Unless it's also a K'Tinga).
Rank:
Lieutenant General Rank
Tier:
6
Type:
Fast-Attack Cruiser
Hull:
40,750
Standard Shields:
5,750 (Mk XII)
Shield Modifier:
1.2
Weapons:
Fore 4 Aft 4
(Can equip dual cannons)
Crew:
650
Device Slots:
4
Consoles:
Console Universal: 1
Console tac: 3
Console eng: 4
Console sci: 4
Turn Rate:
11.5
Impulse Modifier:
0.15
Inertia rating:
35
Bonus Power:
+11 weapons power
+11 engine power
Cost:
5,000 Zen
Abilities:
Cloak
Strategic Maneuvering
Shield Frequency Modulation
Weapon System Efficiency
I would buy 5000 Zen immediately to get this...even if they didn't modify the appearance. If they modified the appearance, I would buy 6000 Zen!
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Lt. Cmdr. Eng/Command
Lt. Cmdr. Sci/Intelligence
Lt. Tac
En. Tac
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I'd be down with it, or the Kamarang which is a very similar ship getting a T6 treatment.
Heck I'd love a T6 K'tanco.
So far they have only updated the Battlecruisers I don't like, the Mogh & Negh'var, so sooner or later...
Interesting thought...T6 Kamarag...hmmmm...
That ship always appealed to me, but I never bought it because it always seemed like a K'tinga on a weight loss program. It had the same general design, but the hull was thinner all around. If they beefed up the hull a bit, I would buy that ship in a New York minute!
K'tanco has a weird hardpoint with turrets. They all fire out of the left wing cannon. It looks damn TRIBBLE. No amount of bug reports and forum posts have gotten it noticed, much less fixed.
And despite how many of us actually state said appreciation for the "ageless beauty" of the D7 / T'Liss / Connie - K'Tinga & Connie Refit would lead to immediate and relatively appropriate spending patterns, TPTB (whether CBS or the Dev Team (leader?)) have determined that outside of the D7, we're not allowed to appreciate our favorites at "endgame"...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Well, TBH, it's only the Federation classics/favourites that we're seemingly not allowed to have. For me it's the Constitution and the NX Classes, and nothing has been said about CBS banning the NX from end-game yet. Personally, I don't buy the Conie excuse either until I hear it from the mouth of CBS themselves, but let's not open that can of worms now and here.
Other than that, I/we do have access to our favourite KDF and Romulan classics at end-game. I activelly use the B'rel and the K'tinga on the KDF side and my only Romulan only uses the T'Varo (I know it's not a T'liss, but I actually wanted a T'Varo. ENT fan here. )
But yeah, I hear your pain, you're talking about the TOS iconics: Constitution, D7, T'liss - and only the D7 is end-game. All legendary iconics that fall into the "ageless beaty" category. Honestly, I see little reason to not have them all at end-game, especially in a game like STO that doesn't stick to the era it's set in, the logical developments that would occur in Star Trek canon or for that matter anything that isn't a theme park experience. Non of the excuses hold water, really.
Since the back story with the Kamarang was that the design had flaws only more modern tech could fix and make viable, I definitely makes sense that they would continue to upgrade her. Heck that is precisely what got her in the field in the first place.
As compared to her Fed counterpart the Ambassador, which is my favorite Fed cruiser, it makes no sense to upgrade as lore explicitly states not many Ambassadors were built in the first place.
T6 Kamarang Advanced Support Battlecruiser and for the Feds a new Advanced Support Cruiser that replaces the Ambassador. Romulans would get a toy in this vein as well. Personally thinking along the lines of Command Cruisers, but with no hanger or Pets, and instead normal Cruiser or Battlecruiser Commands.
The Romulan toy would be an Akif class.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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True, but only Disruptors come in Elite flavor for the KDF, not AP. I'd sell my Spec-Ops ROM BO's for Elite Disruptors on a Fed aligned ROM. That's why I made another ROM, Delta Recruit, KDF Aligned. "Free" Plasmo-Leach included! For the Amazing Price of just $19.95. Order now and get TWO for that same amazing price of just Theta-Nine-Teen-Ninety-Nine!!!!!
I like disruptors on that particular ship because disruptors are a Klingon native weapon. With everything Mk XIV and Epic, it still burns through things pretty fast. But my pilot raptor I outfitted with anti-proton and don't even have all of that Epic yet and it's unbelievable how quick that thing goes through obstacles.
Been tweaking this vessel to see what I can get out of the old superstructure...dropped some of the hull and shield bonuses via Space Traits and picked up the bonus crit chance and bonus crit damage. Hull is still over 73k and shields over 25k, but damage is much better now. I'm going to work on getting those anti-proton weapons installed on it. I can transfer some of the anti-proton tactical consoles from the raptor to the K'tinga...I may have to procure another one of those for the best stack. Will probably take a few weeks for me to get everything Mk XIV and Epic, but once it's done, this K'tinga won't be my father's Oldsmobile anymore!
I would also like to see a D-7 based Rom ship with the beach ball of death.
You can use the D7 skin. The possibilities for appearance are:
D7
K'tinga
K'tinga retrofit (An elongated looking K'tinga)
- and -
(If you've purchased the Koro'tinga)
Koro'tinga
Aside from a more modern appearance, I do wish they'd replace the TMP/TOS models for this -- they're ridiculously chunky, like the proportions were taken from a MicroMachine toy (and don't get me started on the T'liss). As it is, I compensate by using the Koro't'inga skin: It's a gorgeous model.
One thing that bugs me about both fans and Trek's writers is the assumption that these spacecraft are being built using WWII building methods, and somehow their visual appearances limit how they're built. Star Trek, especially in STO's era, has access to fabrication methods that allows them to build pretty much anything, in nearly whatever shape they want. Heck, they could very well build a powerful warship that looks like a Japanese WWII-era battleship, or a runabout that looks like a Winnebago...