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bobbydazlers
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i was very disappointed to realise the bonus summer event donation task only allows 40 vouchers a day to be traded for marks, ok so I didn't quite grasp what was put in the update notes.
•Added a bonus Summer Event donation task to give 40 marks for 40 Lohlunat Prize Vouchers. •The bonus Summer Event donation task requires the Ferengi Nandi project to be completed on one character on an account.
•This project has a 20 hour cooldown.
although I realised there was a 20hr cooldown I didn't realise that you could only use only 40 vouchers a day, so now I am stuck with 600+ vouchers on some alts and no way to trade them all before the end of the event, also not much point in running the mission up to the end of the event with them as I had planned to do.
what a dumb move cryptic don't you want us to play these missions with alts to get your stats up, I wont be caught out like that again.
why not remove the cooldown or give us projects to convert 200 vouchers at a time or maybe next time make it so we can convert the vouchers once the ship project is slotted on one character instead of it having to be completed.
•Added a bonus Summer Event donation task to give 40 marks for 40 Lohlunat Prize Vouchers. •The bonus Summer Event donation task requires the Ferengi Nandi project to be completed on one character on an account.
•This project has a 20 hour cooldown.
although I realised there was a 20hr cooldown I didn't realise that you could only use only 40 vouchers a day, so now I am stuck with 600+ vouchers on some alts and no way to trade them all before the end of the event, also not much point in running the mission up to the end of the event with them as I had planned to do.
what a dumb move cryptic don't you want us to play these missions with alts to get your stats up, I wont be caught out like that again.
why not remove the cooldown or give us projects to convert 200 vouchers at a time or maybe next time make it so we can convert the vouchers once the ship project is slotted on one character instead of it having to be completed.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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As for the rest of your complaint, next year they shouldn't even offer the voucher marks so they don't have to listen to things like this.
I do agree that it is stupid to allow us to potentially earn too many extra vouchers with no way to use them all. They really should be convertible to something else as well.
well I`ve been running the monkey/bird mission on alts for marks anyway but being as you can only hatch 1 egg a day on each alt and likewise only 1 research feathered monkey mission a day on each alt I thought it was kind of nice to be able to reap some extra marks with the flying high mission.
ok so like I said I misread the notes, boohoo I`m sure I`m not the first person to do that but then I`m sure you have never made a mistake in your life.
ok so like I said it was my fault for not reading the notes properly but at the end of the day I thought the devs wanted us to run this mission on multiple characters for every day of the event not just the last few days, I really cant see the point in this limitation they may as well have just left it so it you only needed the vouchers for the ship and nothing else.
40 marks for 40 vouchers is not a great deal but its hardly going to break the sto bank to allow us to trade as many vouchers as we care to earn, especially after they gave players who horded pearls on every character bonus items in exchange which is basically rewarding them for exploiting.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
A couple weeks 'grace period' after the event ends to turn in remaining vouchers wouldn't be uncalled for, would it?
well its comforting to know I`m not alone in this, sadly I fear we will only be able to trade the vouchers up to the end of the event, in fact it say just that in the mission info.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
It's not really about the number of vouchers, it's the amount of time. 40 marks for 2-3 minutes of game play IS a great deal compared to pretty much everything else.
This is one more of those "no win" things for cryptic. Don't do anything and people will complain. Change the rules and people that weren't grinding them will complain. At this point they should leave it as is and next year remove it IMO.
I guess they had to work in the backhand slap. Does anyone really believe they couldn't use the same one for one slider they use in all the new UI? Of course not.
I do think they try to do well. But one wonders at the self-inflicted wounds.
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I don't know how you work out 2-3 minutes of game play for the flying high mission, from the time you take the mission you need to fly to each of the 3 courses that takes a few minutes each then navigate the courses takes a couple of minutes each then return to the NCP to get the 40 vouchers, in total you are looking at about 15 minutes of play.
if you raise a tropical bird or feather monkey you are looking at about the same amount of time by the time you have got the egg or monkey research and raised them up to elder, you get a much higher return for your time spent anything up to 100 marks.
in fact just about everything else you could play in the game would give a higher return for the time spent but if your character is on risa anyway and you enjoy doing the flying high mission it make sense to do it even though the marks reward is not that great, even tagging epohh on new rom only takes about 5 minutes total thats including setting up doff missions and that rewards 400 marks for your time.
but at the end of the day its not about that its about cryptic wanting to show that these missions are being played and giving a reward to the players for playing them, its a two way street.
surely it is better for cryptic to show that lots of players are playing this mission every day of the event with every character they have rather then to just show that lots of payers just played for the ship and nothing else.
I think if any players do play this mission every day with multiple alts the least cryptic could do if give us some measly marks as a reward.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Timed myself today. The route didn't include any of the 3 right around the hotel. Had the lighthouse one which is one of the farthest away. Started the timer, took the mission, flew the courses, beamed back, turned it in and stopped the timer. 3 minutes, 20 seconds. Wasn't one of my better runs as I kept having to look at the map to see where they were.
Took me longer sorting out and turning in my birds and monkeys as I don't have great DOFFs and try and set things up best in order to get the best outcome. Not often I'm getting top end ones, usually end up with just 60 marks.
Course that's just me, everyone is different.
well I am glad you think so but you will excuse me if I go and get my marks elsewhere as just about anything in the game will pay more then 40 marks a day.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
More than 40 marks for 2-3 minutes work (that doesn't consume the daily bonus)? Where? Except the obvious omega/nukara/dyson marks, most other reps require a far greater amount of work AFAIK.
the whole point of this thread is not the time it takes to run "flying high" anyway, it doesn't matter if it only takes 1 second, the point is that you can only gain from it in the final days after you have got the ship.
doing all the other things in the game like pve missions you can do every day and gain a substantial amount of marks for doing them even if a takes a bit longer, just doing “Brotherhood of the Sword” for example will pay 70 marks every day.
sure you may well you keep all your characters on risa if you want, while you are busy earning 960 marks running flying high for the last few days of the event and I will play “Brotherhood of the Sword” each of the 49 days of the event and earn 3430 plus all the other things like tagging epohh on new rom and like you say doing dyson and such.
if they rewarded alt characters for running the flying high mission every day of the event and not just for after you get the ship it might be different but its just not worth keeping them there spending maybe a couple of hours just raising birds and monkeys when you can be doing other stuff and end up with a lot more marks at the end of the day.
if you cant earn more then 200 marks a day and 240 marks after you get the ship as you get on risa with each character then you are playing the wrong stuff.
I would not mind so much if you got the marks for flying high on alts every day, even though I am gaining less overall then I could gain elsewhere its a bit of fun and it makes a change from the norm but I just don't see the point in doing risa with more then 1 character any more.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
But now that i think on it, you can only do the fly high mission once in a day, so, i dont see the issue of the 20 h cooldown. I am missing something? the vouchers are only valid in this summer event, they are not going to be valid for the next summer event. And since it is the first time vouchers are introduced, its impossible that someone had vouchers from past years lol.
I agree that 40 marks for 40 vouchers is not a lot but as I said that's not what bugs me.
I don't really get what you mean your second statement, sure the vouchers will be worthless after the event and you are correct that its impossible to have vouchers from before but I don't see that as relevant here.
what is relevant is that if cryptic wanted to have the flying high mission played a lot then surely it would have made sense to reward some players who played flying high every day of the event with multiple characters and not just for playing it with alts at the end of the event after they have got the ship.
this seems to really bother some people on this forum for some reason and I don't know why, if they don't what to play the flying high mission with alts nobody is forcing them to and yet some players seem to say they can do this mission in no time flat and think the reward of 40 marks is really good, all the more reason you would think they would want to have the chance to do it every day of the event with every character not only to get the ship but also to get a nice big pile of marks for running the mission on alts every day a not just on the character they use to get the ship.
you would think they would rather have the ship and 960 marks on one character and 1960 marks on each alt rather then to just have the ship and 960 marks on every character.
I really cant see why anyone would be opposed to getting an extra 1000 marks on each of their alts.
and whats good for the players is good for cryptic, surely better to have flying high played maybe 147 or more times for each player then just 49 times or less.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.