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New Trek Series Possibly

tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
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I just found this article, and since I don't hang out here in this forum, I thought I might share in case it's not been posted yet.

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They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part.

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1190892/new-trek-series-being-pitched-to/p1

    horse has long since bolted from the barn. i still dont know why that thread is still in general for, its not directly related to sto itself.
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  • xarynn2058xarynn2058 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    With the popularity of DS9 for its look at the less glossy side of the Star Trek setting I've always been left wondering why they didn't look at making something like Firefly. A battered old B'rel with a crew of misfits and counter-stereotypes lead by a Starfleet Captain dishonourably discharged under mysterious circumstances. Plenty to work with there.
    Granted they may have missed their chance by now.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    xarynn2058 wrote: »
    With the popularity of DS9 for its look at the less glossy side of the Star Trek setting I've always been left wondering why they didn't look at making something like Firefly. A battered old B'rel with a crew of misfits and counter-stereotypes lead by a Starfleet Captain dishonourably discharged under mysterious circumstances. Plenty to work with there.
    Granted they may have missed their chance by now.

    Why you gotta bring up Firefly? You know that hurts people.

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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    ^ haha and *sniff*
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    Why you gotta bring up Firefly? You know that hurts people.

    *sobs and wraps self in a browncoat*

    You c-can't take the sky from meeeeeee.....

    You're telling me :'( .
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  • xarynn2058xarynn2058 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    Why you gotta bring up Firefly? You know that hurts people.
    Because when concept has been done right it needs to be held up as an example for others to look to and learn from.
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  • tomaswilletomaswille Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    I was reading this stuff, and i do admit i like the setting and time-span. Another interesting time in Starfleet history.

    Only i red the plot, something about microorganism genetically manufactered that controls others mind, made by a superior race.

    That sounds really familiar?
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    xarynn2058 wrote: »
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    Why you gotta bring up Firefly? You know that hurts people.
    Because when concept has been done right it needs to be held up as an example for others to look to and learn from.

    Damn straight.
  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    xarynn2058 wrote: »
    With the popularity of DS9 for its look at the less glossy side of the Star Trek setting I've always been left wondering why they didn't look at making something like Firefly. A battered old B'rel with a crew of misfits and counter-stereotypes lead by a Starfleet Captain dishonourably discharged under mysterious circumstances. Plenty to work with there.
    Granted they may have missed their chance by now.

    Yes, because more depressing sci fi is exactly what we need.
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  • xarynn2058xarynn2058 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    ilithyn wrote: »
    Yes, because more depressing sci fi is exactly what we need.
    Why does it have to be depressing? Triumph over adversity, Robin Hood antics, fighting the good fight when nobody else will bother, a little bit of vigilante time, adventure for fortune and glory.
    It may not be the chocolate box, latinum framed picture of glossy, sterile, Federation utopia, but it hardly has to be depressing.

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  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    Some of the best sci-fi has been "depressing". Ever read any of the Dune books? The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone are excellent examples of dark sci-fi shows. Sci-fi is probably the BEST medium to discuss humanity in all aspects. Gene Roddenberry gave us a sparkle of hope during a turbulent time in our recent history, but all sides of a story need to be told, the good and the bad. Voyager had an opportunity to take things down a darker road, but didn't. Same thing with Enterprise. DS9 pretty much got it square on.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,476 Arc User
    xarynn2058 wrote: »
    ilithyn wrote: »
    Yes, because more depressing sci fi is exactly what we need.
    Why does it have to be depressing? Triumph over adversity, Robin Hood antics, fighting the good fight when nobody else will bother, a little bit of vigilante time, adventure for fortune and glory.
    It may not be the chocolate box, latinum framed picture of glossy, sterile, Federation utopia, but it hardly has to be depressing.
    Roddenberry's original pitch for Andromeda seemed to have been an attempt to extend the adventures of Kirk & Co (except by then he had become enamored of the name Dylan Hunt, for some reason) into the far future - one in which the Federation had broken down, and the one remaining ship would be dedicated to rebuilding it.

    The concept is not depressing in the least. Robert Hewitt Wolfe did wonders with it. (Then Kevin Sorbo managed to get himself put in charge, turned it into the Dylan Hunt Show with everyone bowing down to his Mary Sue, and it got depressing at that point...)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    a "dark" show is best when it comes to seeing the heroes win in the end. You need a sense of danger to make it exciting.... like in ENT where the NX with T'Pol in the chair is being shot to pieces by a hostile alien race.... then they flash the words "to be continued...."
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    well, ent went off air 10 years ago, and the very last episode of ent was supposedly showing us a point 10 years in the future, so logically they could just pick up enterprise from where they left off.
    i would be so stoked to see that!
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  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    Want social comments? pick off where Nemesis/ST2009 left off. Klingons suffered greatly in the Dominion war, more than the UFP. Romulan Star Empire in a state of chaos and possibly civil war because of the homeworld is gone. Cardassians weakend (not like they were very strong before). Ferengi's new Grand Nagus happens to be UFP-friendly.
    A time when UFP is the mightiest in alpha and beta- quadrant (excluding overpowered beings like Q), but other factions are growing stronger, recovering from their losses and to compete with UFP to gain more influence. A lot like today, add Sec. 31 into the mix and it would work. No need for a crapsack World with half-broken ship (though the ship could be a bonus) and scraps for living.
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  • wombat140wombat140 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    I'd say that what that idea needs is exactly a half-broken ship scraping a living. Seeing the shiny-but-dubious UFP entirely from the perspective of a respectable Starfleet ship that has to play along with it, and indeed help to enforce it, would get terribly bleak in my opinion, if that was the main theme of the series. But if you had a ship that WASN'T part of Starfleet, they could kick against the Alliance - sorry, I mean the UFP - any time they saw fit and it would be just as social-commentary but a lot more encouraging and fun.

    Random idea: another thing that might work would be a series based on a new colony, exploring the new planet and what they find there. They'd still need to pay occasional visits to other planets for supplies or whatever, so you could get characters into space if somebody had a good idea for an episode, but mostly it's the alien planet. It'd allow for slightly "harder" sci-fi, as there are a lot more exciting things within the realms of real science that can happen on a planet than on a spaceship, where you have to have consoles improbably blowing up to even have people injured in a space battle.
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