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Trouble on Nimbus III/Being able report players abusing Boff bots
captaincelestial
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I went back to Nimbus III from the Risa Summer Event, and somebody (or more than one person) had set up 'bots, one at the main entrance of the city, and two at the entrance and exit of the bar. These BOffs (I can't get any info by clicking on them except for species, hp, and a few other tidbits, nothing important) are spamming Cover Shield power blocking people from coming in or out of the city.
Since I couldn't target them, I couldn't find out anything of them until I found a spot that I could target one of them. At first, I thought it was a player, until I couldn't get anything more than info that a person would get from a BOff.
This behaviour is preventing most any one from getting in, at the bar, but it's impossible to get out without having to telport out.
Since I can't get any info about who set up these barrier bots, I can't properly report this behaviour. This makes it difficult to at least report the behaviour and move on, since just about anyone could have set it up and be long gone before a GM can show up (esp. during an Event going on).
Being able to see the handle of the player who set up the bot would make it easier and more definative of who was committing game interrupting behaviour.
From what I overheard at the Summer Event, someone was pulling off something like this earlier, so this wasn't the first time something like this has happened.
Since I couldn't target them, I couldn't find out anything of them until I found a spot that I could target one of them. At first, I thought it was a player, until I couldn't get anything more than info that a person would get from a BOff.
This behaviour is preventing most any one from getting in, at the bar, but it's impossible to get out without having to telport out.
Since I can't get any info about who set up these barrier bots, I can't properly report this behaviour. This makes it difficult to at least report the behaviour and move on, since just about anyone could have set it up and be long gone before a GM can show up (esp. during an Event going on).
Being able to see the handle of the player who set up the bot would make it easier and more definative of who was committing game interrupting behaviour.
From what I overheard at the Summer Event, someone was pulling off something like this earlier, so this wasn't the first time something like this has happened.
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i have also often seen this shield used to annoy other players (nimbus, defera ...). anyway, engineers deserve a better skill
If they could recode it to block line-of-sight for attacks but not block player movement it'd be a much better skill.
I don't understand though why it is a solid object for friendly players and/or why it can be used in social zones. These are things easily fixed, no need to remove the shield.
I thought the same for a moment, but it's also meant to block melee attacks so drones or bugs can't reach you to do harm. Removing that feature would be a great loss of utility. Why, however, friendlies (and the player itself) is blocked by it, I don't understand.
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It's best either removed and made a new ability or it be made possible to run through it and it only deflects energy attacks.
they are probably the same guys/fleet as the one who did their stunts at defera powerplant today. You can get their names and add handles when you look into the map who's in the same zone than you. There you get all the information you want, handle and fleet and you will see they belong all to the same fleet.
They left defera some time today, seems like they moved to Nimbus III now.
This is the post I did today:
http://http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1479441
And funny, there are still ppl out there who seem to enjoy it when other players get harassed...
I have no words for that.
This.
The odd corner cases where you're being melee'd by Borg is not worth the multitude of issues that would be solved by not having it block movement.
(If you're worried about being melee'd by Borg, and actually get in that situation often, you should be carrying Force Field Dome anyway.)
Or just make the thing slightly shorter so we can jump over it.
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I haven't played engineers a lot, but I recently started levelling one and I must say, that shield has already made a difference on several occasions, especially in Fed starbase incursion. I must add though, the character is still below 50 so I don't have access to all abilities yet so I can't really tell how much I'd use it once I get access to other abilities.
Removing an entire ability because some childlish players use it to troll others isn't the way to go. Nanoprobe infestation was also used in the Dyson battlezone to slow down other captains. Command abilities have caused severe lag for a while now. Many singularity Croud Control abilities and TBR can be used to move targets away from players, making it harder to hit stuff. I could go on for a while, point is: if we're going to remove everything that can be used to troll others instead of fixing it, there soon won't be many abilities left.
LOL, guys saying Cover Shield is useless are idiots. The ability is a great defensive tool to buy you breathing space. Just being able to Break LOS is a good luxury on featureless maps. It's amazing with the DOFF to provide resists to anything within close range of the Cover Shield and that makes it central for Turret Bunker play.
Love Cover Shields :cool:
If you think it's worthless, then you have either never used it or have never used it correctly. Pop one down, put your Shield Generator right behind it to protect it and you can keep all your parties shields up. You can also take cover behind it when you're about to drop.
It is however, a constantly abused mechanic. Best solution in my opinion, is leave the shield exactly like it is right now with one small change. Make it so that player characters in non PvP zones can walk through it. That way it couldn't be used to block people.
It would suck if they took away one of the Engineers best skills just to deal with griefers.
There is no excuse for such behavior and the devs seriously need to look at how this is being done and come up with solutions.
Legitimate use of the shield in combat is fine but it's clear that this is not the case here.
Just making it non-solid to friendlies or outright unavailable in social zones would be a start.
Both would be needed, because from what I understand, cover shield griefing occurs in social zones as well as in combat.
Removing collision for friendlies would solve both problems, I suspect.
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I say make them where players can run through them. So only the enemy can't.
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I think the best solution for Nimbus III is to simply change the front gates to make the opening much wider where you need at least 3 cover shields to completely block the front entrance. Sure blocking players can still be done, but the trolls need more coordination to do so.
and saying it doesnt have drawbacks because one a few minors cases of survival doesnt invalidate the opinion either. infact the cover shield should be reworked to be less invasive then it is, the problem is that its rapidly becoming a tool used by greivers rather then for its original purpose, i dont know why cryptic has not created a mini force field dome that keeps enemies out and keeps all enemy attacks out for 30 seconds and players can come and go as they please. its less invasive, it can be deployed anywhere, and it works the same way the shield does even if the ai has a direct los.
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I never said it doesn't have drawbacks. Actually, in the very same post you quoted, I asked and made a suggestion how to fix it.
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Stop feeding the trolls.
You knoiw what, this post is just hilarious. The main problem is that you often have just 1 instance at all. The last 2 days I had 20 ppl at Defera in 1 instance. The same goes for places like Nimbus III. All you can do is leave the planet and forget about your mission.
This has nothing to do with feed the trolls, it is a major problem to players as they have no other choice. I'm all for not feeding the trolls and I never even talk to them, just put them on my ignore list. But so far this has not stopped them as they just look up at the map who's there and spam you with match invites and all you can do is turn of all invites on your toon.
And since the support site on Arc is no availabe for whatever reason this way is the only way to get the attention of mods.
Or better yet, make them not block players. Only mobs.
(* frak pvp)
To get out of line of sight you'd had to crouch behind it which would make it actually much MORE usefull because running around it to fire and run back behind it to take cover is a very clunky mechanic.
Turrets and generators generally have a lower height so would still save behind it.
Boffs could be programmed to crouch, too, when using it and talking heavy damage.
The only drawback would be the NPCs you might want to protect from enemy fire like Rico in Bug Hunt.