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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Plasma, dude, you're part of the reason I don't do STFs.

    I can't speak for everyone else you're griefing, but I, for one, am a little busy flying my starship. Which, as you may know, requires the same keyboard I'd be using to talk. If I take my fingers out of my movement-key arrangement to go to the home row, I'm never going to be ready when the action starts. And if it's already going on, I definitely don't have time for your Chatty Cathy TRIBBLE - there's something out there that needs taking down, and that's what I'm there for. If I wanted a chat room, I'd go to a chat room.

    You have just lost all credibility in complaining about anyone else trolling.
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  • darthwoodarthwoo Member Posts: 371 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Nice story, except that the analog of your actions in game would be similar to you getting out and smashing the bus' engine in spite.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Yeah because it takes 500.000 ec,2.000 Zen and Mk XV gear to just type hi or hello,such an effort to type 2 letters...yeah whatever spare me the speech.
    If you dont have the common decency to reply to a hi or hello you deserve anything and everything that comes your way.




    Not talkative...a simple hello or hi will suffice,dont want or need to discuss for 3 hours the micro economy in Indonesia due to the growth of the apples when the President decides to tax them for the sticker they put on them apples.



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    The word hi or hello in english is universal:

    If you're a nigerian doctor curing a small village of a disease you know the word hi or hello

    If you're an arabian car mechanic fixing a Toyota you know the word hi or hello

    If you're a spanish waiter serving me a beer from the tap you know the word hi or hello

    If you're a chinese monk from the Henan province in China you know the word hi or hello

    Point is the words hi or hello must be the only ones that are the known all over the world so spare me the "me no speak english" lecture because we all know that is BS.

    If they dont reply to a simple hi or hello its either because their mommy and daddy didnt take the time to teach them proper manners or they simple born a douche,take your pick.
    Lol, man you are taking this way to personal imo.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • darthwoodarthwoo Member Posts: 371 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Which space STFs have a 30 second timer? All the originals and most of the new ones I've tried start immediately whenever I load.

    I'm learning so much today, such as that two wrongs (the first of which is dubiously labeled as such) apparently make a right.
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited June 2015

    But here its different,so moral of the story is that if you're a douche,lack common courtesy,dont even bother to reply to a hello or hi i will make you regret it and if its not me dont worry your bad karma will catch up with you one day :D

    So in a nutshell this is me,not going to apologise for doing what needs to be done,you can get all PC on my a$$ but to be honest i dont care,been like this forever and im not going to change now just because "some" people on the forums dont agree with me.

    So that's your picture next to passive-aggressive.

    If I want to chat, I can do that everywhere else.

    When I want to blow stuff up, I don't want to be fussing with chatting. If it's not relevant to the queue, it doesn't need to be there. Less talk, more rock.
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  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2015
    Ok, in missions with fail conditions "Combined effort" and "General punishment" are one and the same, if you can't heal your team members, it's their fault for flying away, yes.

    But it is also YOUR fault for not communicating the fact that you're a healer and if team members want to get healed they need to stay in range. If they don't listen, then it is up to you to work extra hard to carry the weak links in your team.

    That is called "Team Work"

    This is by no means a 'true fire' fix for stupidity. There will always be people who bite off more than they can chew, and thusly make life a little bit more difficult for others.

    Such is the hazards of pugging missions, you occasionally get paired up with people who don't pull their weight or don't know their port exhaust from a hole in the ground.
  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Already stated that before,but common decency dicates a reply to hi,hey or hello.

    Pretty sure common decency also "dicates" not forcing your personal neuroses on complete strangers.

    Also pretty sure the word you're looking for is "courtesy," not "decency." Decency is what keeps you from kicking beggars in the head. Courtesy is what makes you say "Oh, I beg your pardon" after you've kicked them in the head. It's an important difference.

    Beyond that, I think the other word you're looking for is "suggests," not "dictates" (however you've chosen to misspell it).
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    jbmonroe wrote: »
    Pretty sure common decency also "dicates" not forcing your personal neuroses on complete strangers.

    Also pretty sure the word you're looking for is "courtesy," not "decency." Decency is what keeps you from kicking beggars in the head. Courtesy is what makes you say "Oh, I beg your pardon" after you've kicked them in the head. It's an important difference.

    ^^ LOL. That was a fun post. ;)
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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    If you get that Barrier Field Generator console you CAN protect stupid people in CE!
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  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I will probably get flamed for this but beh who cares.

    So here it goes:

    I will fail on PURPOSE one or all STFs if:

    -I say hi or hello folks,how is everyone today? in chat and no one has the decency to respond.

    THAT IS STRIKE 1

    -Ask in chat,:are we doing the optional?, and no one responds.

    THAT IS STRIKE 2

    -I say in chat *what a talkative bunch,thanks for the warm welcome* or something like that...depending on my mood that day you will get a semi sarcastic comment or maybe a full blown sarcasm Pulitzeer award winner phrase that would make Stephen King proud,and in response i get some lip from you or derogative remarks towards my persona.

    THAT IS STRIKE 3


    You are out,i will do EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING in my power to TRIBBLE up the STF.

    Now you can judge me all you want but this is an mmo and if you cant even muster effort to spare 3 seconds to type the word "Hi" or "Hello" you shouldnt really be here in the first place.

    You are aware I presume that there are people in this game who a) do not speak (or at least are unable to reply in) English, and/or b) have team chat switched off because they've been verbally abused or assaulted by the entitled nerd bridged in this game too many times?

    So you're basically punishing them for feeling unsafe in this game (and you are proving by your behaviour, if not your words, that they are right to not feel safe with starngers) or not being able to communicate in the language of your choice (you could try communicate with them in theirs of course, but nah I assume that would be too much bother for you).
    Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
  • spyralpegacyonspyralpegacyon Member Posts: 408 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Why would you expect anyone to show you common decency when you've clearly stated you have none and will intentionally fail a match for everyone else?

    Given his/her posting history and general attitude, I'm surprised he/she doesn't always get VTK'd from the start.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Aside from deliberate griefers that seem to exist:

    Every team based effort where you actually need a team to succeed will necessarily also mean that individuals can drag down the team and cost it its success.

    I don't think you should ask Cryptic to change that - you need to look for a team where this doesn't happen. Or you accept the risks.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Stop punishing us with these type forum posts
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I noticed this 80'ish old year woman just barely holding on to her cane,shopping bag and the back of a seat and trying not to fall down each time the bust stopped and started.

    Besides here a couple of 14 or 15 year old kids,so i aproached them and politely asked them if one of them didnt mind and would give one of them seats to the old lady.

    That's very compassionate of you and a very reasonable request on your part. I agree that it's a shame they did not freely give up their seats.
    Well this was what occured after i said that:

    -Got called an old TRIBBLE (even thou im 39,40 in june and look much younger)
    -Insulted with the worst cuss words you can imagine
    -Being made fun by saying if i had a "thing" going on with the old lady

    That is an unfourtinate response, but what can you do?
    After all that there was only one thing to do,using my hand i grabbed one ear from one of the kids then used my other hand to grab the other kids ear and made them get off their seats by just yanking their lobe up,up and up.

    Oh my, escalating to battery over some ageist name calling is incredibly immature and potentially unlawful.
    After they "left" their seats i told the old lady she could sit down,thetwo kids looked at me and proving that they belonged to this generation of douches and by this generation of douches you know what im talking about do you? yeah let me ilustrate for you:

    Its the kids that after getting hit in the back of the head by their parents because they took money from their fathers wallet or mothers purse they use their cell phone and call the police on them...those are the kind im talking about.

    So you disliked the ageist "insults" made to you and then go on an ageist rant. Pot meet kettle.
    Well lo' and behold they called the cops on me,after 5 stops they aproached the bus and made it stop.
    To make the story short after talking to me,the kids,the old lady,the driver and some passengers the cop in charge said this:

    "Kids you lucky we are busy with other affairs or we would call your parents and tell them what a pair douches they have raised"

    They said that and left.

    Perhaps battery isn't a crime where you were or live. If so, I feel sorry for the lack of protections your legal code fails to provide. Would you want you or your kids battered by a stranger?
    Granted for you and by you i mean people who live in the Us or Canada you would probably take the kids side and say i should have been arrested for Assault Charges or something like that,beh cant say im surprised,lived over there (Us and Canada) for a while so i know all these crazy laws you have.

    Yes, you acted immaturely. Verbal insults were responded to with violence, no matter how benign. Apparently you didn't learn an important preschool lesson, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" (I am sure there is something similar in your native language).
    But here its different,so moral of the story is that if you're a douche,lack common courtesy,dont even bother to reply to a hello or hi i will make you regret it and if its not me dont worry your bad karma will catch up with you one day :D

    While the exchange of common courtesy is a good thing, most people aren't insulted by a failure to mutter a greeting to a passer by. The fact that you feel so offended, and can't control your rage, speaks volumes. And I am certain that you have reaped the rewards of your behavior many times over.
    So in a nutshell this is me,not going to apologise for doing what needs to be done,you can get all PC on my a$$ but to be honest i dont care,been like this forever and im not going to change now just because "some" people on the forums dont agree with me.

    I highly recommend that you seek psychiatric help, as you are clearly in need of some help controlling your natural tendencies. Until then, be well and take it easy.
  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    -English word Hi or Hello is known by EVERYONE,to lazy to write it all again so ill quote myself ;)

    No the words Hello and Hi are not universally known and you can keep quoting yourself however many times you want, it doesn't make it true. Your head is so far up in your anglo-centric posterior that your words really speaks for themselves.
    (Also, met many Chinese monks, Nigerian village doctors or Arabian car mechanics have you?)
    Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    ltminns wrote: »
    Stop punishing us with these type forum posts

    Seconded, nothing further for me to add here expect that if I ever meet plasma in a pve I can expect it to fail as I have no intention of saying hello to self-important jackanapes.
    Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Seem to have misunderstood,i didnt yank them from the ears because of the insults,would have done it even if they politely said "no we wont get up and give that old lady one of our seats", insults had nothing to do with it,they refused to be polite and offer their seat to the old lady so i "helped" them...the insults towards me just made me enjoy the ear pulling (just a tad thou) but i would have done it anyway.




    You damn skippy,IF my kids behaved like that i would greet the stranger at my door,unroll the red carpet and offer him some of my best whisky

    So, let me get this straight!

    You consider it rude for people not to respond and, the story with the old lady rude of the kids [which I agree they were wrong] but, yet you would be willing to grief others!

    Is that not rude of you as well?

    You know, to grief others?

    Seems you are just as big of a douche, as any other person imo!
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  • glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    ilithyn wrote: »
    Seconded, nothing further for me to add here expect that if I ever meet plasma in a pve I can expect it to fail as I have no intention of saying hello to self-important jackanapes.

    So much this.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    i run a tac battle cruiser with cannons and never run away from the entity. it just does not do enough damage to run like a feddy bear.

    really if your doing advanced and have to run from the blast go back to normal till you get your gear and or skills sorted out.

    10 klingons at min once a day some in bops some in raptors most in Battle cruisers all the same. YES EVEN THE BOP. can tank that blast. and even pull in a 1st place. (harder to do in a bop) but it has been done plenty of times.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Little story for you folks,please indulge me.

    Last year about when summer started i went back to my hometown,had to meet my lawyer and get some documents signed.

    Well since i was there i took my car to get a routine check up at my friends garage and because all my friends were working and i had like 2 hours to spare i decided to grab a bus instead of a taxi.

    So being summer and my town being on the ocean well lets just say the bus was packed,all seats filled and about 5 or 6 people standing up.

    I noticed this 80'ish old year woman just barely holding on to her cane,shopping bag and the back of a seat and trying not to fall down each time the bust stopped and started.

    Besides here a couple of 14 or 15 year old kids,so i aproached them and politely asked them if one of them didnt mind and would give one of them seats to the old lady.

    Well this was what occured after i said that:

    -Got called an old TRIBBLE (even thou im 39,40 in june and look much younger)
    -Insulted with the worst cuss words you can imagine
    -Being made fun by saying if i had a "thing" going on with the old lady

    After all that there was only one thing to do,using my hand i grabbed one ear from one of the kids then used my other hand to grab the other kids ear and made them get off their seats by just yanking their lobe up,up and up.

    After they "left" their seats i told the old lady she could sit down,thetwo kids looked at me and proving that they belonged to this generation of douches and by this generation of douches you know what im talking about do you? yeah let me ilustrate for you:

    Its the kids that after getting hit in the back of the head by their parents because they took money from their fathers wallet or mothers purse they use their cell phone and call the police on them...those are the kind im talking about.

    Well lo' and behold they called the cops on me,after 5 stops they aproached the bus and made it stop.
    To make the story short after talking to me,the kids,the old lady,the driver and some passengers the cop in charge said this:

    "Kids you lucky we are busy with other affairs or we would call your parents and tell them what a pair douches they have raised"

    They said that and left.

    Granted for you and by you i mean people who live in the Us or Canada you would probably take the kids side and say i should have been arrested for Assault Charges or something like that,beh cant say im surprised,lived over there (Us and Canada) for a while so i know all these crazy laws you have.

    But here its different,so moral of the story is that if you're a douche,lack common courtesy,dont even bother to reply to a hello or hi i will make you regret it and if its not me dont worry your bad karma will catch up with you one day :D

    So in a nutshell this is me,not going to apologise for doing what needs to be done,you can get all PC on my a$$ but to be honest i dont care,been like this forever and im not going to change now just because "some" people on the forums dont agree with me.

    i am in the US and i dont have problem with your little story here . we be better off if more people actually did the right thing. but the griefing in the stfs is NOT the right thing . for myself with the lag of late the missions have usually already started before my load screen even completes .

    and even more often i forget to change to open coms in chat instead of fleet only. every since the sector space has turned into ESD chat its usually off other than fleet and tells.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    dpsloss88 wrote: »
    If you get that Barrier Field Generator console you CAN protect stupid people in CE!

    LOL using that thing makes you one of them. i ohh so hate when some nugget pops that thing off making me fly around it or stopping my shots fired from hitting the target as intended.
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  • zarato4218zarato4218 Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    icsairguns wrote: »
    and even more often i forget to change to open coms in chat instead of fleet only. every since the sector space has turned into ESD chat its usually off other than fleet and tells.

    This is what I was thinking while reading the previous posts. Sometimes, when you warp into a queue you have only a second before it starts. (I suppose this might be due to "replacing" someone who dropped out) When I see others say something I usually try to respond but sometimes its a choice between using the clunky ui to change channels or get into the action and help the team. Further sometimes the entire team is using different channels or I forget (We all have long days sometimes :D) that I am in Zone or Fleet chat. I can see their text bubbles and they mine if we catch them, but otherwise it might seem like we are silent.

    In other words there are some reasons why one might not respond, so while I can agree that recieving snarky return comments ends sympathy for an anonymous pugger, the first two strikes could lead to jumping to conclusions.
    As Zephram Cochrane once said, "That'll do, pig. That'll do." - April 1st 2015. o:)
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    icsairguns wrote: »
    LOL using that thing makes you one of them. i ohh so hate when some nugget pops that thing off making me fly around it or stopping my shots fired from hitting the target as intended.
    I hear you.

    The undine rep shield bubble and/or the command cruiser shield generator work decently well and neither blocks allies from shooting. Same with the science captain scattering field power. There's a lot more too.

    That said, if a person died to the first shockwave and they are about to get hit by the second... Stopping an ally from shooting for a few seconds is a better option than failing the queue.
  • shinnok918shinnok918 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    imruined wrote: »
    Hmmm... Long winded irrational ranting...

    Suck it up, move on, do the next one... You're carrying on as if this happens constantly - it does not...

    I regularly pug CCA and will encounter a failed 'optional' at most once or twice a week, yet will often run it at least once a day, even multiple times across multiple characters...

    Yes, it's frustrating when it happens but it's not worth completely losing your **** over like this...

    but it happens more than it should. I cant set up each player's ship before an ISA or *as stated* fly it for him or move him to safe range in CCA. I can't watch probes and kill everything else in KSA. this goes back to my thread of "what fail conditions have really done".

    the short of it was fail conditions are making the playerbase hate each other, and the ones who are experienced and can run just about any queue don't want to teach others because if/when they fail it isn't worth the time or effort.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I hear you.

    The undine rep shield bubble and/or the command cruiser shield generator work decently well and neither blocks allies from shooting. Same with the science captain scattering field power. There's a lot more too.

    That said, if a person died to the first shockwave and they are about to get hit by the second... Stopping an ally from shooting for a few seconds is a better option than failing the queue.

    if they died in the 1st wave they already botched the bonus up so no reason what so ever to try and protect them from second. let them die maybe they will get the message that advanced is too much for them and go back to normal...

    but hey we all know trying to talk to one of those types is going to get you nothing but a ear full of BS . thats when i wish i could pull a plasma nugget and rip the smart a$$ phuckers ears off and beat them silly with them.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    And once more I am reminded why we can't have nice things.
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    icsairguns wrote: »
    if they died in the 1st wave they already botched the bonus up so no reason what so ever to try and protect them from second. let them die maybe they will get the message that advanced is too much for them and go back to normal...

    but hey we all know trying to talk to one of those types is going to get you nothing but a ear full of BS . thats when i wish i could pull a plasma nugget and rip the smart a$$ phuckers ears off and beat them silly with them.

    The wizards of the coast game designer Chris Simms once told me that if he could have any super power what would want is the ability to snap his fingers and teleport someone to him, make a hologram of the dumb thing they just did for them to watch, then **tch slap them and teleport them right back where they came from. I told him I never knew how much I wanted that power until right then.
  • hajmyishajmyis Member Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    hmmm,

    well I can get double the rewards and XP for having to carry you every time in a que?
    "Frankly, not sure why you're on a one man nerf campaign. "
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