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STF : Children Of Khan

azyurionazyurion Member Posts: 168 Arc User
edited June 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
What is it? Where is it?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It was Gozer's idea. When he left the company 4 years ago it went with him.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It is incredible. Did it and won a jhss t7 ship fully decked out in "iwin" buttons
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • azyurionazyurion Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    It was Gozer's idea. When he left the company 4 years ago it went with him.

    What a shame. Would have been nice to have an augment STF/Feature.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It is nothing. It means nothing. Just forgeeeet... forgeeeeet....
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  • alexhurlbutalexhurlbut Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Well....if anyone ever played the prison mission....you know there's a certain "infamous" prisoner.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I think there is a market for more generic STFs - things which are not tied into Borg/Iconians/Whatever. Once the Iconian chapter of the game is closed we might see some things that have a broader application. Children of Khan would fit into that - or not. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    One of the possible story ideas that Cryptic may pick up after the Iconian threat is resolved.

    May. Not necessarily will.

    Personally, I think an Augment story should be story heavy, and I really, really don't want that hidden in an STF where everyone (but you or who ever else is the noob today) is trying to rush through.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The long lost STF....
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  • phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Originally at launch there was a calendar which had a planned "roadmap" for STFs to be launched. The first series was obviously the Borg with Infected, Cure, Khitomer and Hive (even tho it would take Cryptic over 3 years to launch Hive). The second series of STFs would have been the Undine series starting with Terradome etc. and the third series that was already to be found on the calendar was "Children of Khan" which obviously was centered around the augments. For some reason, Cryptic abandoned the idea (probably time and resource limitations at the time) and hastily released a half-working Terradome in a very buggy state which was eventually removed.

    So Children of Khan is still in the ground files but it was never actually used because they abandoned the STF series idea.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    One of the possible story ideas that Cryptic may pick up after the Iconian threat is resolved.

    May. Not necessarily will.

    Personally, I think an Augment story should be story heavy, and I really, really don't want that hidden in an STF where everyone (but you or who ever else is the noob today) is trying to rush through.

    I welcome every content that isn't "Iconians! Boo!" at this point, although I really, really dislike the augment story or rather what it became after TOS. Everything what ENT did in that regard should be erased and we shall never explain costume differences between shows three decades apart with clunky storylines anymore.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited June 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    It still would be nice to have one, so long as Gozer didn't have anything to do with it. ;)

    I do find it interesting that, given the Klingon War revamp in 8.5(?), and the appearance of Singh in "Facility 4028," the devs COULD have retcon-ed the whole thing out of the storyline... but, they didn't.
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    As a person whose main character is an Augment, I would really love to have this be the next story after iconians. Partly because the Iconian story seems underwhelming, and partly because I want to get some gear and or traits to better my Augment build.
  • apsciliaraapsciliara Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    wraithshadow13 wrote: »
    As a person whose main character is an Augment, I would really love to have this be the next story after iconians. Partly because the Iconian story seems underwhelming, and partly because I want to get some gear and or traits to better my Augment build.

    Everything about this, with the addition that the whole Augment thing is a goldmine for so many of the juicy, think-y plots that we've come to know and love from Star Trek.
  • phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Thing is, an augment is very "human" in nature. I don't get why the Iconians want to rule everything if they're so highly advanced, you'd figure they've got something better to do by now. But augments have that human aspect that pulls them back to their basic human nature of controlling others. It makes sense that augments found a way to produce more brothers and sisters and launch a genuine war against the species of the Alpha and Beta quadrants.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    How can it be a long lost STF if it never went live? ;)
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  • betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I claim to be a child of Khan Singh, and I am live. :P
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited June 2015
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    How can it be a long lost STF if it never went live? ;)

    Partly due to it still being within the download files, that 'some bad people' routinely datamine for new things.
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I don't know I had real issues with the whole thread involving Professor Khan being Data's creator and then even more with the augment arc in Enterprise. In TOS the eugenics war apprently happend long before the events in First Contact so Professor Khan would have been dead long before Enterprise and all. To me the events in Wrath of Khan was the end of them forever.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    I don't know I had real issues with the whole thread involving Professor Khan being Data's creator and then even more with the augment arc in Enterprise. In TOS the eugenics war apprently happend long before the events in First Contact so Professor Khan would have been dead long before Enterprise and all. To me the events in Wrath of Khan was the end of them forever.

    Enterprise was just terrible on all accounts of story writing and I personally don't accept any of that in my personal canon. STO however of course uses ENT primarily since it was the latest show (and bears, possibly, the biggest recognition value with the younger playerbase). They shouldn't use the augments at all, the whole arc, as you said, was over when Khan and his merry men were destroyed in the mutara nebula. Data's creator, Noonien Soongh and Khan Noonien Singh had, I think, literally nothing in common until that stupid retcom in ENT was made. They were both named after people Roddenberry knew.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
    #TASforSTO
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Data's creator, Noonien Soongh and Khan Noonien Singh had, I think, literally nothing in common until that stupid retcom in ENT was made.

    Uh, they still don't?

    Noonien Soong was descended from geneticist Arik Soong, who was the character in the ENT episodes. Arik believed (correctly, as Julian Bashir can tell you :P) that not all Augments were necessarily evil. It didn't pan out, so he refocused towards cybernetics, a focus which, due to being passed down to his descendants, gave us Data.

    Khan Noonien Singh, however, was... well, Khan. The only connection between anyone from the Eugenics Wars and those episodes was that the Augment embyros at Cold Station 12 were leftovers from the war. Nothing less, nothing more.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    The long lost STF....

    All of our STFs were once long and are definitely lost now. Ah, Those were the days. I truly miss those Long Lost STFs.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I, for one, agree.

    There are a few Enterprise episodes that come to mind as being good. But on the whole, it was a bit of a disappointment.

    Personally, it felt as if they'd run out of steam. I mean, for example, 'In a Mirror Darkly' is often referred to as being a favorite. I don't see why - it was poorly written nonsense; Mirror Universe stories are a cheat anyway - the writers can do what they want with them since anything that happens in those episodes has little overall consequence to the series itself. So IAMD was just a bunch of dumb evil people being dumb and evil. And explosions.

    The Mirror episodes in Enterprise was missing one key element that every other mirror episodes from the other shows had......Prime Universe Characters. That is the one thing that I really liked about it. It was all their own. They event had their own unique intro.
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