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Defeating the Heirarchy?

xg125xg125 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Federation Discussion
Hello.

Started Delta Rising last Autumn and haven't played since. But now I've picked it up again and need some tips.

I'm on a patrol mission in the Orendal System, and I come across two ships of The Heirarchy.

How do I defeat them?

Because every time I attack them, I lose, quite quickly, because as soon as I'm hit with a pulse from one of their EM Probes, I'm completely vulnerable.

Are there any strategic points or any specific weapons or equipment people may recommend?

Thanks!
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The easy way is to kill the probe before it gets close enough. Alternately if you collide with it, it will be destroyed. They can't really launch the probes if they're in a grav well, and of course FaW and torp spread can destroy the probes without requiring you to re-target.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    The easy way is to kill the probe before it gets close enough. Alternately if you collide with it, it will be destroyed. They can't really launch the probes if they're in a grav well, and of course FaW and torp spread can destroy the probes without requiring you to re-target.

    Pretty much this, science and engineering team can help with debuffs and disables
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    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      Refer to my Sig. There is no problem outside of Aceton Assimilators or in PVP, a FBP build, that BFAW can't resolve.

      Are you facing a bunch of fighters? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing a bunch of mines, targetable projectiles? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing multiple enemies? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing a single enemy? LOL! BFAW is the answer, even more so compared to Beam Overload!
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    • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      warmaker001b wrote: »
      Refer to my Sig. There is no problem outside of Aceton Assimilators or in PVP, a FBP build, that BFAW can't resolve.

      Are you facing a bunch of fighters? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing a bunch of mines, targetable projectiles? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing multiple enemies? BFAW is the answer.

      Are you facing a single enemy? LOL! BFAW is the answer, even more so compared to Beam Overload!

      ( in reference to the last one )

      But I like them both. And often at the same time.

      But don't listen to me I'm terrible at this game. I die early and often. :o:D
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    • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      They are easy. They mess my sensors up where I can see them. So I just take the time to heal up some. Then hammer away once they pop back up. I had more trouble with the Hirogen and Vaadwuar than the Heirarchy.
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    • rondelicarondelica Member Posts: 55 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      Indeed Hirogen and vaadwaur are little harder to defeat.
      farmallm wrote: »
      They are easy. They mess my sensors up where I can see them. So I just take the time to heal up some. Then hammer away once they pop back up. I had more trouble with the Hirogen and Vaadwuar than the Heirarchy.

      @Xg125

      You can remove the Heirarchy debuffs with Engineering Team and Science Team. So use it wisely if you have 1 copy`s of it.

      If you have a little tanky ship then let `m use their debuffs and remove it when they are done. After that they are easy to kill ;)
    • ironcaniacironcaniac Member Posts: 131 Media Corps
      edited May 2015
      xg125 wrote: »
      I'm on a patrol mission in the Orendal System, and I come across two ships of The Heirarchy.

      How do I defeat them?

      ...

      Are there ... any specific weapons or equipment people may recommend?

      Activate the Photonic Cannon! The Hierarchy will retreat!

      :eek: :cool: :D
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    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      Are your enemies on a compass direction? BFAW is the answer.

      Are your enemies in EVERY compass direction? BFAW is the answer.
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    • mikoto8472mikoto8472 Member Posts: 607 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      Ok quick question.


      I'm pretty sure FAW refers to "Fire at Will." But what does the B part in BFAW stand for?
    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      mikoto8472 wrote: »
      Ok quick question.


      I'm pretty sure FAW refers to "Fire at Will." But what does the B part in BFAW stand for?

      Simply the part of the acronym of the full name of the ability. Beam Fire At Will. BFAW & FAW is referring to the same thing.

      I also equate it to "Win" ;)
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    • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
      edited May 2015
      warmaker001b wrote: »
      Simply the part of the acronym of the full name of the ability. Beam Fire At Will. BFAW & FAW is referring to the same thing.

      I also equate it to "Win" ;)

      Actually, FAW should mean that we are always firing at Riker. :D

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    • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
      3 words, Tractor beam repulser.
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