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Sol is in the ALPHA quadrant

rikersdadrikersdad Member Posts: 74 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
This is Canon, Earth marks the boundary between the Alpha and Beta Quadrants but Earth is in Alpha not beta.

Please fix the galaxy map. :)
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    oh yay, another one of these.......
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bobtheskull99 wrote: »
    oh yay, another one of these.......

    Unfortunatley for us yup yet another one of THESE threads youd think after its been explained like a hundred times people would get the idea well....i suppose i was wrong in that assumption.
  • benben500benben500 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Here we go again.

    Sol and Earth/Terra are on the border (you even said so yourself), so the devs were smart and put it on the side where most beginning gameplay (if not all gameplay) takes place, so that it's more convenient for players.
    "Bloody explorers, ponce off to Mumbo Jumbo land, come home with a tropical disease, a suntan and a bag of brown lumpy things, and Bob's your uncle, everyone's got a picture of them in the lavatory."
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Most of everything you do in this game will be either in the Beta Quadrant or in the Delta Quadrant. (Minus the Cardassian and Breen/Deferi arcs.) Why would you want Sol in the quadrant where there's nothing to do? :P :rolleyes:
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well, to be fair...Trendy closed the last thread down.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=23521911&postcount=116

    But Taco replied: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=23518171&postcount=83

    And even after this thread gets closed...more of them will continue to pop up.
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited May 2015
    *opens a bag of pop-corn*









    Can one of the mods add this to the FCT's???
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    *bang, bang, bang, bang*

    That sound is my head banging on my desk. Next time do a search there are TONS of these threads and all of these threads have been responded to by Cryptic and their response is basically "Deal with it" :cool:
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    Is this in the FCT thread yet?
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    generalmoco wrote: »
    *opens a bag of pop-corn*









    Can one of the mods add this to the FCT's???

    This would be a very good idea.

    I really wish people would use the search on these forums. :(
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  • thelordofshadesthelordofshades Member Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Oh, no - not this [REDACTED] again.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    OMG NO WAY!

    You're definitely the first to notice this, it's a good thing you made this thread to bring it to everyone's attention!
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    A: Short answer? Because the writers of Star Trek used "Alpha" as a keyword for home.
    In reality (fiction), Sol should be directly on the line between the Alpha and Beta Quadrants


    I read this in one of the older threads and thought to myself "whatever". Because they used it as a keyword for home pfffffft. Now if you all will excuse me i'm going to play my Fed science toon, hop into my Tholian ship, and tell my Jem Hadar bridge officer to blow up some borg ships.
  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    Oh dear...

    Please Moderators add this topic to the FCT.

    For the record since Earth (Sol) is straddling the border between Alpha and Beta, it really didn't matter (too much) where it finally ended up, I'm ok with where it is.

    Maybe a few decades of stellar drift moved it just enough to be in the Beta Quadrant? lol :P
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bobtheskull99 wrote: »
    oh yay, another one of these.......

    This time I support 'another one of these.' :) Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?), so Earth being anywhere else but in the Alpha Quadrant makes no sense at all, as the Alpha Quadrant was named for the first space we encountered (namely, that around us). which we then promptly called the 'ALPHA' (= first/primary/root) Quadrant.

    Thus it was recorded in canon. And to have Earth be in the Beta Quadrant therefore is a rather sizeable boo-boo. Fix it; and then feel free to close this thread. :P
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    This time I support 'another one of these.' :) Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?), so Earth being anywhere else but in the Alpha Quadrant makes no sense at all, as the Alpha Quadrant was named for the first space we encountered (namely, that around us). which we then promptly called the 'ALPHA' (= first/primary/root) Quadrant.

    Thus it was recorded in canon. And to have Earth be in the Beta Quadrant therefore is a rather sizeable boo-boo. Fix it; and then feel free to close this thread. :P

    Can't tell if she is trolling or just trying to keep the thread alive....................
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    This time I support 'another one of these.' :) Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?), so Earth being anywhere else but in the Alpha Quadrant makes no sense at all, as the Alpha Quadrant was named for the first space we encountered (namely, that around us). which we then promptly called the 'ALPHA' (= first/primary/root) Quadrant.

    Thus it was recorded in canon. And to have Earth be in the Beta Quadrant therefore is a rather sizeable boo-boo. Fix it; and then feel free to close this thread. :P


    Gameplay trumps lore. The vast majority of the early missions are in the Beta quad. Having starting characters have to bounce between the quadrants every time they headed to & from ESD would be silly (and defeat some of the purpose of dropping the map walls to begin with.) So, if there has to be a choice between the two quadrants, Beta it is.


    (The more elegant solution, of course, would have been to have an entrance/exit to the Sol system in each quadrant. But I can only imagine the bugs.... :P)
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    This time I support 'another one of these.' :) Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?), so Earth being anywhere else but in the Alpha Quadrant makes no sense at all, as the Alpha Quadrant was named for the first space we encountered (namely, that around us). which we then promptly called the 'ALPHA' (= first/primary/root) Quadrant.

    Thus it was recorded in canon. And to have Earth be in the Beta Quadrant therefore is a rather sizeable boo-boo. Fix it; and then feel free to close this thread. :P

    ... I blame Brannon Braga. :P
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?)

    Speak for yourself :P
  • cirran1cirran1 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    With how toxic beta zone chat is I spend as little time as possible there. Oh well it makes ESD a little bit better now, not much just a wee bit.

    Cirran
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    cidjack wrote: »
    Can't tell if she is trolling or just trying to keep the thread alive....................

    No, I was trying to get them to *fix* it, and then close the thread. :P
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kiralyn wrote: »
    Gameplay trumps lore. :P)

    I normally agree, totally. And I've seen ppl leave the game (!) because the Delta Flyer in the show had only 1 Aft wep, instead of 2 (or whatever). That sort of stuff has no meaning to me whatsoever. :) But the location of Earth?! Kinda basic. Almost immersion breaking (OMG! STO isn't real?!? :D)
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  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    This time I support 'another one of these.' :) Star Trek is intensely human-centric ("We're all human," remember?), so Earth being anywhere else but in the Alpha Quadrant makes no sense at all, as the Alpha Quadrant was named for the first space we encountered (namely, that around us). which we then promptly called the 'ALPHA' (= first/primary/root) Quadrant.

    Thus it was recorded in canon. And to have Earth be in the Beta Quadrant therefore is a rather sizeable boo-boo. Fix it; and then feel free to close this thread. :P
    Tacofangs said no, his word is law in this situation. Sol is in the Beta Quadrant, so get used to it or don't, it's up to you. Taco isn't going to change Sol's position based on complaints by some people who don't get the picture.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    blassreiterus wrote: »
    Tacofangs said no, his word is law in this situation. Sol is in the Beta Quadrant, so get used to it or don't, it's up to you. Taco isn't going to change Sol's position based on complaints by some people who don't get the picture.

    Well that escalated quickly
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    I normally agree, totally. And I've seen ppl leave the game (!) because the Delta Flyer in the show had only 1 Aft wep, instead of 2 (or whatever). That sort of stuff has no meaning to me whatsoever. :) But the location of Earth?! Kinda basic. Almost immersion breaking (OMG! STO isn't real?!? :D)

    While we're at it, they should 'fix" the Prime Meridian so that it runs further to the East, maybe the Eastern border of Germany or Poland. I mean we call the countries of Western Europe "the West" or "Western nations" when they are clearly in the Eastern Hemisphere. That's completely immersion breaking.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    blassreiterus wrote: »
    Tacofangs said no, his word is law in this situation. Sol is in the Beta Quadrant, so get used to it or don't, it's up to you. Taco isn't going to change Sol's position based on complaints by some people who don't get the picture.


    And that is his prerogative, of course: their server, their rules. But he's no less in error about Earth's location, though. ;) "That," as Data said to the boy in Hero Worship, "will never change."

    Earth is officially located in the Alpha Quadrant, ca. 90 light years from the boundary to the Beta Quadrant.

    So, just putting that out there; and then they can do with what they want.

    N.B. And if this ever becomes a F.C.T., I wouldn't mind a link to Taco's post in there.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rikersdad wrote: »
    This is Canon, Earth marks the boundary between the Alpha and Beta Quadrants but Earth is in Alpha not beta.

    Please fix the galaxy map. :)

    Okay, here is the long winded version of the Why Earth is in Beta and why the maps look as they do.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1434961
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I've left myself a note to add it to the FCT friday as that's my next day off.

    /closed as this has been brought up a lot.
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