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stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
the last two weeks where we had a ~50% bonus to dilithium?

I sure do.
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  • benben500benben500 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss being able to get ~50 zen every day with one toon. When it was only ~150-160 dil-to-zen.
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss being able to play the CtD's on map changes are killing me.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Actually, not exactly. What I do miss is the more reasonable exchange rates.

    Had those been around, at this point I might have considered maybe 1 Rom Command Cruiser, and maybe 1 Pilot ship. Before, maxing one character's daily refining limit would bring almost 50 cents worth. Now it's 30 cents worth. By the time some new c-store item is added, it'll be exactly half the return, and with no sign of it ever coming down.

    Sure, Dilithium seems to be streaming in more than before, and I keep hearing how other MMOs have it much worse, or how it's been much higher in the past. There is no absolute value that's 'reasonable' as it's all subjective. How much is your time worth? How much use and fun do you get out of a c-store item, and does acquiring it through grinding at a given exchange rate seem worth it? How fast do existing items get replaced with all-round better ones that make the prior ones feel simply punishing to use?

    I don't do upgrades, don't plan on it either, and enjoy versatile builds that have fun abilities over DPS chasing. I have yet to parse the comparison between my Odyssey and the Eclipse, and compare the overall difference between the two in an advanced STF using the same elite fleet gear, mk xii very rare, "exclusive" event gear, and some rep items. Already I can see the Eclipse, nevermind the fleet variant, so much more all-round capable, and challenging to fly.

    To me they are both works of art, with their own specializations that sets them apart despite both being cruisers, but the fact that one overshadows the other so much, and then both get overshadowed in tanking ability by Commands again by so much really feels like all the time invested to acquire it, to get the extra ship slot, and to get the extra upgrade token are worth that much less.

    Simply said, there are too many other fun and worthwhile things to do for the same amount of time and effort than what I'm getting out of already-excessive gaming here with reward scales that don't get devalued or practically replaced but quite the opposite, that build on themselves.

    End result, I'm no longer offering dilithium on the exchange (not that it makes any difference), not seeking dilithium or EC so much as before, and seeing how much fun I can get with yesterday's gear and yesterday's ships.
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  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    stofsk wrote: »
    the last two weeks where we had a ~50% bonus to dilithium?

    I sure do.

    Well, considering that dilithium is now worth ~40% less than 2 months ago, I don't think two weeks with 50% bonus were worth it.

    I'd rather have no bonus dil at all, and 150dil/zen at the exchange.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Hey don't give up on the 130's just yet. That is the true fair value!

    But seriously folks, without a new fleet holding it will go nowhere but up up up which = less less less and more more time.
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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    benben500 wrote: »
    I miss being able to get ~50 zen every day with one toon. When it was only ~150-160 dil-to-zen.

    Its only going to get worse....
  • nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    benben500 wrote: »
    I miss being able to get ~50 zen every day with one toon. When it was only ~150-160 dil-to-zen.

    i miss making 94 Zen a day whit one toon, when Zen was 85 dili. ... two years ago
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well I'm speaking as a returning player who has had to build up from very little left in my bank. All my old characters are gone. All I had when I came back was whatever I had in my account bank. The 50% bonus was nice while it lasted.

    The zen-dilth exchange ratio is pretty high at the moment, but I wonder if it was low because the R&D and upgrade system ate a lot of dilth, and now that more and more people are getting gold mk XIV gear they don't have much use for dilth. Meanwhile Cryptic have launched new T6 ships every month which makes zen scarcer on the exchange.

    If they introduced a new dilth sink (new starbase holding maybe? Expansion on the R&D system?) the price would go down again. Also when people hit higher tiers of the Iconian rep as well, but that would be just starting to happen now.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    benben500 wrote: »
    I miss being able to get ~50 zen every day with one toon. When it was only ~150-160 dil-to-zen.
    yeah, now you only get ~40 zen a day for 35 minutes work. that losing 10 cents a day is ball busting... not.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    I miss....

    All of my fleet mates who've left in disgust over Delta Rising.

    Running STF's non-stop for hours. Now I'm lucky to squeeze two in for a single alt. Now less than 10% of the channels are active (Unless even the chat numbers have reporting issues).

    Finishing Defera. Seriously. Week 6 and still no fix.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    stofsk wrote: »
    the last two weeks where we had a ~50% bonus to dilithium?

    I sure do.
    Yep, me too.

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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss Star Trek Online. Too bad it's just Generic Science Fantasy Facebook Grinder Game Online now.
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  • bobtheyakbobtheyak Member Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss being able to play without crippling lag.
  • richardewirichardewi Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss being able to play without crippling lag.

    This. Ditto.:P
  • takegurutakeguru Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss my chance at getting the summer event ships.

    And the breen carrier.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss...

    - The whole year with absolutely no new content. Yeah, that was a good time.
    - Earning your way into the KDF.
    - STF rewards which actually were worth the time and effort put into playing one.
    - The controversy over how game breakingly OP the Klingon cloak was and how unfair it was that Feds didn't have one.
    - Zone Chat being civilized.
    - Bumping into BranFlakes in game. Or any of the Dev Team for that matter.
    - Playing in Ker'rat against good Fed players in Starfleet ships.
    - Running Infected Space in Shuttles. Because we could.
    - Optionals in STFS which really were Optionals instead of InstaFails.
    - Devs who treated STO like a Star Trek based game instead of a opportunity for a steady paycheck.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    - Devs who treated STO like a Star Trek based game instead of a opportunity for a steady paycheck.
    When did we have those? :P I'm pretty sure all the devs are here for the paycheck.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    When did we have those? :P I'm pretty sure all the Devs are here is for the paycheck.

    There. Fixed that right up for ya. rofl. :P
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There. Fixed that right up for ya. rofl. :P
    I don't see how that counts as fixed.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Nevermind. Sorry I bothered.
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  • benben500benben500 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    stf65 wrote: »
    yeah, now you only get ~40 zen a day for 35 minutes work. that losing 10 cents a day is ball busting... not.

    Last time I looked it was ~260 dil to 1 zen.
    8500dil*(1zen/260dil)=32.692307...
    so ~32 zen each day for what takes me ~45-60 min
    A T6 ship is 3000zen
    3000zen*(1day/32zen)=93.75 days
    But if there was 50 zen each day,
    3000zen*(1day/50zen)=60 days
    ~34 days difference.
    If you play only weekends and can't spend a lot of time to earn enough dil to refine the whole week,
    94days*(1week/3days)*(7days/1week)=219.333... days
    60 days*(1week/3days)*(7days/1week)=140 days
    A 80 day difference to get a T6 ship w/ 1 toon.



    I didn't double check all of my math, so there may be errors.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The Zen to Dil exchange was cheaper and affordable.
    When I could buy stuff from the Dil store. I got a lot of good stuff from there.
    Seeing content that was enough to get you to your next levels.
    Zone chat worth reading not the rubbish it is now.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    NwS yup i sure do miss that
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss a filled queue list with good and bad pugs alike and maps that pop in less than 10 minutes, if at all.

    Since some of the maps run well atm perhaps it’s time to closer evaluate those which don’t.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    voporak wrote: »
    I miss Star Trek Online. Too bad it's just Generic Science Fantasy Facebook Grinder Game Online now.

    I miss almost-kinda-ballanced PVP of the first 2 years ... (even VPVP was kind of a nice substitute) .

    I miss STOked, the first version , and RSA and some of the other podcasts that went under as the years went by .

    I miss the original STF's , and the cameradery that could form in time .

    I miss the sub years as it felt like the Devs were more energetic and had a better vibe .

    I miss a time when we didn't hear the word 'metrics' , which in turn didn't make some of us feel like we'd been reduced to ants on someone else's table .



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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I miss the days when the forums were not full of whiners. Oh wait that was never... my bad.
  • benben500benben500 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    I miss the days when the forums were not full of whiners. Oh wait that was never... my bad.

    I'm not a whiner! *begins crying*
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    benben500 wrote: »
    I'm not a whiner! *begins crying*

    LMAO! Love it!
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