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  • sharksinspacesharksinspace Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Or alternate versions of both chest and shoulders. Like the KHG set. The first set comes with the armor with Republic Raptors on the shoulders, and a solid chestpiece, and a plasma battle rifle weapon, The Adapted version comes with blank shoulders and Imperial Raptor chest, and a plasma pulsewave. Also..the standard helmet should have a fore and aft crest, and the adapted a side to side one. And add a cloak option (Material. Not invisible. :D)

    This all day Tolmarius. This is something we can all agree on (or at least enough of us).
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    What houses? They're a priority? How long has the Republic been there already?

    D'Tan has his Gleaming White Imperial Palace. To help ensure he has the backing of the Remans, they actually got solid housing. The rest of the Romulans? Tents. Still. But hey, D'Tan's got well built warehouses for his loots. Hey! Even Epohh lady has a tent still!

    D'Tan has gathered himself up a good fleet. Dispatching Republic forces to meet the commitment of the alliance (you join the club, you get the benefits but you pay dues also). Dispatched to far away places to include the Delta Quadrant. Not to mention get into combat with losses to be suffered, losses to be replaced, losses to be paid for.

    But you guys still got tents.

    FYI, it's not a "Republic" when you're running a dictatorship. Calling it a "Republic" doesn't make it a Republic. And the Emperor doesn't exactly see any need to bring about a Senate. The Iconian War is a perfect excuse to push it further away.

    I have to admit. It's a very cool Con Job D'Tan ran. The deception and the wholesale acceptance of people running to a "Republic" while it's really a dictatorship is great. I commend him on that. The ploy is very... Romulan ;)

    Warmaker, seriously. This is all nothing but jackassery. Stop it. You've been spouting this for 2 years, and you've been shown, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, that it's false.

    There is no "Grand Imperial Palace." That's the frikkin CAPITOL CITY! It says so in the cutscene where you speak with the Foreman "We're building a new city here ..." where our ancestors first landed on this planet (with the screen showing what you have constantly tried to paint as "D'Tan's Grand Imperial Palace"). The art shown by tolmarius is only one example of STO art that shows the CAPITOL CITY clearly (see this, for example). You can go up on some of the buildings and rocks/mountains and look back and see some of the interior of the CITY. Romulans and Remans are not living in tents. Those are what we military types call "BIVOUAC." They're not residences. We have a CITY.

    This is just one of the more obvious ones. Even kodachikuno, who is no friend to the Republic, has admitted that there is a Senate. Your comments don't even amount to attempts at propaganda; they're just attempts to TRIBBLE people off.

    If you don't stop these attempts to flamebait, I'm going to start reporting you for it every time. This question was settled over a year ago, like so many other things you've tried to claim and have been shown to be wrong about. You can entertain your personal delusions privately to your heart's content, but this flamebaiting has to stop.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This all day Tolmarius. This is something we can all agree on (or at least enough of us).

    Contrary to what might be the popular belief, I don't hate people who like the RSE. I personally have an RSE character, a Gai'Shian officer. Its simply my personally preference, politics wise, for hte Republic that defaults me into counterattack when nitwits trot out absolute sillyness like "D'tans Gleaming Imperial Palace".
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Or alternate versions of both chest and shoulders. Like the KHG set. The first set comes with the armor with Republic Raptors on the shoulders, and a solid chestpiece, and a plasma battle rifle weapon, The Adapted version comes with blank shoulders and Imperial Raptor chest, and a plasma pulsewave. Also..the standard helmet should have a fore and aft crest, and the adapted a side to side one. And add a cloak option (Material. Not invisible. :D)

    On that note, vague question, but at what level do we stop getting the "sawed off" plasma guns as drops n start back getting the long TRIBBLE tube guns? I noticed beyond a certain level the gun graphics change, both Fed and Romulans. Also, has anyone ever upgraded one of these? Do they turn into tube guns anyway?
  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    What houses? They're a priority? How long has the Republic been there already?

    My point exactly. Building houses is more important than political dance. Bread first, then circuses.


    FYI, it's not a "Republic" when you're running a dictatorship. Calling it a "Republic" doesn't make it a Republic. And the Emperor doesn't exactly see any need to bring about a Senate. The Iconian War is a perfect excuse to push it further away.

    I have to admit. It's a very cool Con Job D'Tan ran. The deception and the wholesale acceptance of people running to a "Republic" while it's really a dictatorship is great. I commend him on that. The ploy is very... Romulan ;)

    People gathered around D'Tan, drawn to him. Follow him willingly. That's not dictatorship. Leadership, certainly, but not dictatorship.

    We know nothing about Senate. You have no proof it's being pushed away. I have no proof that it's not. The difference is I don't insist on my POV, because I have no proof. Only faith. You behave as if yours was written in stone.


    As for uniforms - yay for OT ;) - I wish the ones we have worked properly :rolleyes:
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    What houses? They're a priority? How long has the Republic been there already?

    About a year, according to in-game time. Remember, we're only about halfway through 2410 according to Cryptic's storyline. And the game 'started' at the beginning of 2409.
    D'Tan has gathered himself up a good fleet. Dispatching Republic forces to meet the commitment of the alliance (you join the club, you get the benefits but you pay dues also). Dispatched to far away places to include the Delta Quadrant. Not to mention get into combat with losses to be suffered, losses to be replaced, losses to be paid for.

    Welcome to the galaxy - it's a big place. You either venture out, or you lose out.
    FYI, it's not a "Republic" when you're running a dictatorship. Calling it a "Republic" doesn't make it a Republic. And the Emperor doesn't exactly see any need to bring about a Senate.

    Yeah... you really need to actually pay attention to the Republic storyline.

    This is a brand new state. D'Tan is leader for now, until the infrastructure is built and the laws are in place. You can't just get up and call something a state, and immediately hold elections. When you're creating a brand-new state, there's a period of time where the founding leaders take charge and build it.

    The time will come when Republic elections are held. And the people will judge their leaders accordingly, by the worth of their actions over the coming months and years.
    The Iconian War is a perfect excuse to push it further away.

    Elements forbid we actually try to defend our territory? What good is building houses if the Iconians are trying to raid the planet?
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Or alternate versions of both chest and shoulders. Like the KHG set. The first set comes with the armor with Republic Raptors on the shoulders, and a solid chestpiece, and a plasma battle rifle weapon, The Adapted version comes with blank shoulders and Imperial Raptor chest, and a plasma pulsewave. Also..the standard helmet should have a fore and aft crest, and the adapted a side to side one. And add a cloak option (Material. Not invisible. :D)

    much as I love the imperial raptor I would think that would be the first version, and the "newer" republic made version be the adapted... aside from that, this is also a good idea. As to weapons, ffs TRIBBLE the pulsewave PLEASE >.< how about a minigun, or sniper rifle or any of the other guns that never get assigned to the armor sets? Give the Imperial Edition a High Power Rifle and the Republic Edition a Full Auto Rifle or something. :)



    also people.... seriously... stop skipping cutscenes and text... I remember 2 or 3 times where someone referenced the senate... hell I think one was a voiced scene by D'Tan. If I can think of the exact places later Ill post them
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    tacofangs wrote: »
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    All i think about, is that we are still Romulans! We are proud of our heritage, and not about to change our way of life completely, just because our original homeworld was destroyed.

    We may not be the force in the Galaxy we used to be, but we are still a force to be reckoned with. The former government, or at last some parts of it, made mistakes, that we aren't going to repeat, but we also aren't going to become merely "puppets" of the Empire or the Federation.

    That means that many of the policies, practices, traditions and most importantly behaviors are still the same as they always were. And this includes our politics and the basic structure of our government.
    ...

    On the issue of New Romulus City ... All that's needed is a separate Instance/s or map/s for players who wish to visit New Romulus but not the staging area (just like Dewa III is a separately named planet before you make your alignment choice) The Staging Area could be just as it is now, for those that wish to continue to chase bunnies.

    Simply have a selectable option called "New Romulus City" from orbit, just as Romulan toons get the extra "Command Center" option now.

    The Internal artwork is already in game ( just need the maps) and there is already a large amount of external artwork and resources available. Creating a few more wouldn't be that difficult. It would take time, yes, but it's not the huge task that some believe it would be.

    Then again, Cryptic have shown no interest whatsoever in adding anything to the Romulan Faction (except of a few ships) so I guess this is all academic.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bendalek wrote: »
    On the issue of New Romulus City ... All that's needed is a separate Instance/s or map/s for players who wish to visit New Romulus but not the staging area (just like Dewa III is a separately named planet before you make your alignment choice) The Staging Area could be just as it is now, for those that wish to continue to chase bunnies.

    Simply have a selectable option called "New Romulus City" from orbit, just as Romulan toons get the extra "Command Center" option now.

    The name of the Capitol should be "Hachae s'Temer."

    (And the whole map of the adventure zone is a region I call "Vastam.")
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bendalek wrote: »
    The Internal artwork is already in game ( just need the maps) and there is already a large amount of external artwork and resources available. Creating a few more wouldn't be that difficult. It would take time, yes, but it's not the huge task that some believe it would be.

    Then again, Cryptic have shown no interest whatsoever in adding anything to the Romulan Faction (except of a few ships) so I guess this is all academic.

    That's about the size of it. Going the extra mile with the Romulans doesn;t make them money.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    About a year, according to in-game time. Remember, we're only about halfway through 2410 according to Cryptic's storyline. And the game 'started' at the beginning of 2409.



    Welcome to the galaxy - it's a big place. You either venture out, or you lose out.



    Yeah... you really need to actually pay attention to the Republic storyline.

    This is a brand new state. D'Tan is leader for now, until the infrastructure is built and the laws are in place. You can't just get up and call something a state, and immediately hold elections. When you're creating a brand-new state, there's a period of time where the founding leaders take charge and build it.

    The time will come when Republic elections are held. And the people will judge their leaders accordingly, by the worth of their actions over the coming months and years.



    Elements forbid we actually try to defend our territory? What good is building houses if the Iconians are trying to raid the planet?

    Exactly what have you said would lead one to believe the Romulan "Republic" is a "Republic"? Other than someone choosing to scribble "Republic" on the map and call it that? ;) What proof is there that this thing is actually a Republic in more than name?

    The "Republic" has the resources to build and send forth ships to far flung places and fight the wars of empire. Cool. I dig that actually. But the "Republic" has yet to move its citizens into something more than tents??? :confused: Not even a mud hut? But hey, there's that nice Imperial Palace on New Romulus though ;)

    And to remain on topic: I still support the idea of a Romulan "Republic" "Imperial Guard" or "Praetorian Guard" uniform.

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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    The name of the Capitol should be "Hachae s'Temer."

    (And the whole map of the adventure zone is a region I call "Vastam.")


    Weeelll ... Though your choices are good, naming is a very touchy subject, which is why it's easier to let Cryptic do it, an then we can all yell at them, so as not to cause disagreement amongst ourselves.

    One thing we all need to do is stick together, because without solidarity, we Romulans stand even less chance of ANY improvements being made.

    I'm positive that Cryptic are aware of our concerns and desires, but as has been pointed out, "there ain't no profit in it". If we stick together though, and if Cryptic believes there to be enough of us, perhaps we might get ... something!
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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Exactly what have you said would lead one to believe the Romulan "Republic" is a "Republic"? Other than someone choosing to scribble "Republic" on the map and call it that? ;) What proof is there that this thing is actually a Republic in more than name?

    The "Republic" has the resources to build and send forth ships to far flung places and fight the wars of empire. Cool. I dig that actually. But the "Republic" has yet to move its citizens into something more than tents??? :confused: Not even a mud hut? But hey, there's that nice Imperial Palace on New Romulus though ;)

    And to remain on topic: I still support the idea of a Romulan "Republic" "Imperial Guard" or "Praetorian Guard" uniform.

    Hail Caesar!

    I must asked....have you ever looked inside the tents? There are only a few, far too few for all the people you seem to think live there. And.....all the beds are occupied by sick and wounded. Notice that? And the large number of Starfleet medics hanging around those? They also tend to be set up at field research outposts, such as in Vastam Peaks, the Atlai, and Hwael. And the only one not holding the sick or reaseach stuff happens to have a small conference going on. Perhaps you should pay attention to what you eyes are telling you. Look again at the art that you've been shown? If you think that that is a palace, and not a city, then you had a terrible sense of scale. You also happen to be ignoring everything that Foreman Kylor and the others say to you, where the word "city" is thrown about repeatedly. Your entire argument has been refuted repeatedly in all its particulars. Even people who dislike the Republic as it is have said you're full of it. We've drifted into Argumentum ad Infinitum now, and I suspect thats how it will end up. You trotting this out until no one cares to address it anymore, then claiming victory by rights of being the only one fighting this battle.

    And Imperial Guard would be blantantly silly. Like George Washington establishing a Royal Guard after being elected president. Out of character and utterly stupid as a proposal. Praetorian Guard could work, but Consular Guard or Proconsular Guard would be better.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Exactly what have you said would lead one to believe the Romulan "Republic" is a "Republic"? Other than someone choosing to scribble "Republic" on the map and call it that? ;) What proof is there that this thing is actually a Republic in more than name?

    Yeah, you really need to read a lot of the dialogue again. Might help actually reading what the Republic NPCs have to say, then you can make comments.

    But let's engage your logical fallacy for a moment. The simple fact that the state is called a "republic" is more evidence than you could possibly muster for it being a second empire of sorts.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    Yeah, you really need to read a lot of the dialogue again. Might help actually reading what the Republic NPCs have to say, then you can make comments.

    But let's engage your logical fallacy for a moment. The simple fact that the state is called a "republic" is more evidence than you could possibly muster for it being a second empire of sorts.

    I'm beginning to think reading is too hard for him
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • denizyurukdenizyuruk Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    Like the guards in the background of this shot from Nemesis? The two guards at the door.


    Yeah I like!
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I don't know when it happened, but I noticed the other day they gave us "slim" versions of all the shoulder pads. Thank the Great Bird! The old ones were too chunky for a lot of my costumes.
  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    guljarol wrote: »
    Romulan Republic wasn't built in one day. It takes time to create laws which would let choose a senate. And right now we're busy with



    Moving out of tents to houses also takes priority, methinks.

    The Republic has had one full year in-game to tame the homeworld and build a capital. They can't manage that either.
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The Republic has had one full year in-game to tame the homeworld and build a capital. They can't manage that either.

    Actually, I stand corrected in relation to my own comment. If you take a good look at the "building" in the staging area, you will see that you're outside of the city (it has the roundish shape that Romulan cities have, and it's not a building, but the outside "wall" of the city). The city is there, but we can't go inside. We're running around the places outside.

    So yes, we had a year and we built a city. :P
  • greatbritongreatbriton Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    guljarol wrote: »
    Actually, I stand corrected in relation to my own comment. If you take a good look at the "building" in the staging area, you will see that you're outside of the city (it has the roundish shape that Romulan cities have, and it's not a building, but the outside "wall" of the city). The city is there, but we can't go inside. We're running around the places outside.

    So yes, we had a year and we built a city. :P

    Probably lacks heating and plumbing at the moment - it won't be installed until Tuesday.
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    ^Shhhhhhhhh... Don't give away state secrets, dammit!
  • greatbritongreatbriton Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    guljarol wrote: »
    ^Shhhhhhhhh... Don't give away state secrets, dammit!

    *gulp* I'll do better, I promise!!
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    "Soon" (TM)
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