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DC's Legends of Tomorrow - First Look

steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
edited May 2015 in Ten Forward
Spoilers

Supergirl ain't the only DC property giving us a first look. CW's upcoming DC's Legends of Tomorrow now shows us what its all about.

Personal thoughts:
1. Rory!...er, Arthur Darvill is once again a time traveler, this time playing Rip Hunter. Thumbs up. (any chance of a Roman centurion outfit at some point?)
2. Smart move bringing Sarah Lance back, this time as White Canary.
3. I totally guessed the major villain weeks ago: Vandal Savage. This can be a very strong character.
4. Atom will finally be THE Atom (and not an Iron Man wannabee.) Thumbs up. Less thrilling, Ray Palmer appears to still be the clown of the show. Humorous is fine, but I'd like to see the character a bit more grounded.
5. Needs to happen: Firestorm needs to learn that they can manipulate matter. Right now, they're just a flamethrower that flies, and we've already got Heatwave on the team.
6. Supervillains are a nice touch. If this wasn't so upbeat, it would start to look like a Suicide Squad.

Final thought: I'll give it time to get its sea legs. I do see it as DC's riskiest venture on TV at the moment, however. But then, most thought Gotham would be a loser, and it turned into a hit.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    It seems a little too lighthearted for my tastes. I do not mind natural human that comes from situations but I am not fond of when they try to make things intentionally funny. I will give it my customary 3-episode try, though.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    steamwright wrote: »
    Spoilers

    Supergirl ain't the only DC property giving us a first look. CW's upcoming DC's Legends of Tomorrow now shows us what its all about.

    Personal thoughts:
    1. Rory!...er, Arthur Darvill is once again a time traveler, this time playing Rip Hunter. Thumbs up. (any chance of a Roman centurion outfit at some point?)
    2. Smart move bringing Sarah Lance back, this time as White Canary.
    3. I totally guessed the major villain weeks ago: Vandal Savage. This can be a very strong character.
    4. Atom will finally be THE Atom (and not an Iron Man wannabee.) Thumbs up. Less thrilling, Ray Palmer appears to still be the clown of the show. Humorous is fine, but I'd like to see the character a bit more grounded.
    5. Needs to happen: Firestorm needs to learn that they can manipulate matter. Right now, they're just a flamethrower that flies, and we've already got Heatwave on the team.
    6. Supervillains are a nice touch. If this wasn't so upbeat, it would start to look like a Suicide Squad.

    Final thought: I'll give it time to get its sea legs. I do see it as DC's riskiest venture on TV at the moment, however. But then, most thought Gotham would be a loser, and it turned into a hit.
    There is one thing that is missing in your list, the fact that Legends of Tomorrow will feature for the first time in a Live action sort of way a Thanagarian hero (well, heroine) in Hawkgirl. I am glad that the producers will have her work as Hawkgirl.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Looks good to me. A nice mix of superhero action and snark. This is why I vastly prefer the DCTVU to the DCCU, because the DCTVU is getting it right while the DCCU is frankly clueless and without color.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Needs Jade Canary. :D

    Yeah, that character isn't funny, but the concept makes me smile whenever I think of it. :D

    ENh, it's was a short lived alternate character idea, but cool.

    In case people want a summary.....

    Lady Shiva decided to try being a superhero to prove she was better than Black Canary at that too. hehehe.... so she dressed up in a green version of Black Canary's outfit. It's a bit boring actually. But not bad.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    steamwright wrote: »
    But then, most thought Gotham would be a loser, and it turned into a hit.

    If Fox cancels Gotham, it's a hit. If they renew it, it's a failure.
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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited May 2015
    blassreiterus wrote: »
    There is one thing that is missing in your list, the fact that Legends of Tomorrow will feature for the first time in a Live action sort of way a Thanagarian hero (well, heroine) in Hawkgirl. I am glad that the producers will have her work as Hawkgirl.

    You are very correct. I thought that I'd gone back and edited that in, but I guess I forgot to hit "post" or something.

    I do wonder, however, if this will be Thanagarian Hawkgirl. I have heard that this Hawkgirl is claiming reincarnation, and to have lived several past lives. It has been a long time since I reviewed the concepts behind Hawkgirl & Hawkman, but didn't they go through heavy retconns multiple times? As a result there were two origins: one from space, one from ancient Egypt? If I'm reasonably accurate, this sounds like they're going with the ancient Egypt storyline.
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Needs Jade Canary. :D

    Please tell me DC is not putting out a different Canary for every color of the spectrum like they did with power rings. :P
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    If Fox cancels Gotham, it's a hit. If they renew it, it's a failure.

    Well played.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    steamwright wrote: »
    Please tell me DC is not putting out a different Canary for every color of the spectrum like they did with power rings. :P
    Sandra Wu-san (aka Lady Shiva) made a deal with Black Canary to trade jobs temporarily.

    Thus she took the name Jade Canary and spent a few weeks as a crime fighter in Gotham.

    I don't remember if Batman commented on this, but I can imagine what he'd think about it.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    steamwright wrote: »
    You are very correct. I thought that I'd gone back and edited that in, but I guess I forgot to hit "post" or something.

    I do wonder, however, if this will be Thanagarian Hawkgirl. I have heard that this Hawkgirl is claiming reincarnation, and to have lived several past lives. It has been a long time since I reviewed the concepts behind Hawkgirl & Hawkman, but didn't they go through heavy retconns multiple times? As a result there were two origins: one from space, one from ancient Egypt? If I'm reasonably accurate, this sounds like they're going with the ancient Egypt storyline.

    Yeah, Hawkman and Hawkgirl have the most convoluted history in comics compared to any other character. There was a period in the '90s where DC didn't even want to touch them because no one could make sense of their background. I think--I'm not certain--that they finally settled on the DCAU's approach of having them as ancient Thanagarians that landed in Egypt and have been reincarnated ever since.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    Yeah, Hawkman and Hawkgirl have the most convoluted history in comics compared to any other character. There was a period in the '90s where DC didn't even want to touch them because no one could make sense of their background. I think--I'm not certain--that they finally settled on the DCAU's approach of having them as ancient Thanagarians that landed in Egypt and have been reincarnated ever since.
    Um... actually, the DCAU Hawk Girl IS a Thanagarian who closely resembles one of the two who crashed on Earth. Hawkman in DCAU was a semi-crazy human archaeologist who found a piece of Thanagarian tech that was basically a form of telepathic diary, and accidentally used it. He now has all the data in the diary stuck in his head and isn't completely sure whether it's stuff HE did, or someone else did. IIRC it was left ambiguous as to whether they actually were reincarnated or it was a coincidence.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Um... actually, the DCAU Hawk Girl IS a Thanagarian who closely resembles one of the two who crashed on Earth. Hawkman in DCAU was a semi-crazy human archaeologist who found a piece of Thanagarian tech that was basically a form of telepathic diary, and accidentally used it. He now has all the data in the diary stuck in his head and isn't completely sure whether it's stuff HE did, or someone else did. IIRC it was left ambiguous as to whether they actually were reincarnated or it was a coincidence.

    You missed an episode.

    http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_History
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    You missed an episode.

    http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_History
    That's actually part of what I was talking about.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    That's actually part of what I was talking about.

    Really? Because it didn't seem very ambiguous to me at the end. Hell, even Jon had an ancient Egyptian counterpart.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The question was in whether they were actually reincarnated or if they were simply reliving what happened to other people. That seems to have been left open for speculation.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    The question was in whether they were actually reincarnated or if they were simply reliving what happened to other people. That seems to have been left open for speculation.

    I suppose that's a fair argument. That doesn't explain how Carter Hall got his own pair of wings, though. It seemed pretty cut and dry as a merging of the conflicting back stories to me, anyway.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    I suppose that's a fair argument. That doesn't explain how Carter Hall got his own pair of wings, though. It seemed pretty cut and dry as a merging of the conflicting back stories to me, anyway.
    IIRC he made them. He seemed to have derived a rudimentary knowledge of Thanagarian technology from the encounter and used that to make his Hawkman suit.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    IIRC he made them. He seemed to have derived a rudimentary knowledge of Thanagarian technology from the encounter and used that to make his Hawkman suit.

    I recall nothing from the two episodes that stated he made them, and I watched that series relatively recently.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    I recall nothing from the two episodes that stated he made them, and I watched that series relatively recently.
    I think it was in his first appearance. Or maybe it was implied.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    I think it was in his first appearance. Or maybe it was implied.

    It's not even implied. One moment he's in civvies and the next he's in his Hawkman outfit, wings and all, and they never even mention that elephant in the room.
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