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So that Sovereign-esqe ship on the Arc main page...

martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Federation Discussion
Has anyone else seen it? It is very similar to the Sovereign class in terms of appearance, but it isn't quite the same. Do we think that it is just some promo art that got slapped together, or is it an Easter egg hinting at something to come? (Or is there something coming I missed somehow...)
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think it's a hint to a T6 sovereign release in the near future, most likely a Pilot/cruiser(?!?).
    Obviously they have updated the ships model.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    martakurill wrote: »
    Has anyone else seen it?

    Nope, don't use ARC...and didn't see anything looking around the ARC website.

    Last I saw of the Sovereign was the Pilot Bridge Officer blog...

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9111383-pilot-bridge-officers

    ...back on March 25th.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Is this what you're referring to?
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  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Clearly PW thinks I need to spend more money.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    martakurill wrote: »
    Has anyone else seen it? It is very similar to the Sovereign class in terms of appearance, but it isn't quite the same.

    That's what the sovereign class is supposed to look like.
    iconians wrote: »
    Is this what you're referring to?

    Yup (with better lighting though), its been up since the start of Season 10.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    duncanidaho11 wrote: »
    Yup (with better lighting though), its been up since the start of Season 10.

    Yeah. Pretty sure that's just the Sovereign at a different angle and with better lighting. If it was a variant of the Sovereign, Cryptic usually gives some pretty noticable differences in its design. If there are any major differences, I simply have not noticed them.

    Their major reveals are given in dev blogs. Given just how draconian their disclosure policies are, I think you're giving them too much credit for slipping in an easter egg like a ship reveal in something like that.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Yeah. Pretty sure that's just the Sovereign at a different angle and with better lighting. If it was a variant of the Sovereign, Cryptic usually gives some pretty noticable differences in its design. If there are any major differences, I simply have not noticed them.

    Neither have I...but for all we know cryptic's added a massive gun turret to the top of the saucer section. :P
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    duncanidaho11 wrote: »
    Neither have I...but for all we know cryptic's added a massive gun turret to the top of the saucer section. :P

    Emote turret. It fires 5,000 winking smileys per second.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well, for five years they used the Galaxy on promo pictures and you know how that went :D
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  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Yeah. Pretty sure that's just the Sovereign at a different angle and with better lighting. If it was a variant of the Sovereign, Cryptic usually gives some pretty noticeable differences in its design. If there are any major differences, I simply have not noticed them.

    Their major reveals are given in dev blogs. Given just how draconian their disclosure policies are, I think you're giving them too much credit for slipping in an easter egg like a ship reveal in something like that.

    Seeing that full picture, it looks much more like the Sovereign than I first thought. What's throwing me is the underside of the nacelles and the shape of the pylons. To me, they seem quite a bit different from the model sitting on my desk.
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Well, for five years they used the Galaxy on promo pictures and you know how that went :D

    Hehe, just had to say that, right? Because a T6 Sov. would be a "Shut up and take my money!" scenario...so it could very well take years. :rolleyes:
  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    greyhame3 wrote: »
    Clearly PW thinks I need to spend more money.

    So if I've done this right, I believe that my signature now reflects my feelings adequately. :D
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    martakurill wrote: »
    So if I've done this right, I believe that my signature now reflects my feelings adequately. :D

    Mine too.

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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm still waiting for the variant with the sensor pod in-between the nacelles. The concept art has been around since launch, but that mission pod is still missing in action.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    davidwford wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for the variant with the sensor pod in-between the nacelles. The concept art has been around since launch, but that mission pod is still missing in action.

    Yeah, the NX-91001 has kind of disappeared into obscurity. I'm not even sure if Cryptic remembers that ship.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Nope, don't use ARC...and didn't see anything looking around the ARC website.
    iconians wrote: »
    Is this what you're referring to?

    Heh, I view the forums on a 15" second monitor...and there was no hint of that. Even moving the ARC site over to the 19" there was barely a hint of it there.
  • dw1178dw1178 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    martakurill wrote: »
    Seeing that full picture, it looks much more like the Sovereign than I first thought. What's throwing me is the underside of the nacelles and the shape of the pylons. To me, they seem quite a bit different from the model sitting on my desk.

    Could it be possible that Cryptic would take the version of the Sovereign that it would of looked like Post Nemesis? Maybe thats why?
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    What is this... "Arc" you guys speak of? ;)
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    dw1178 wrote: »
    Could it be possible that Cryptic would take the version of the Sovereign that it would of looked like Post Nemesis? Maybe thats why?
    Tbh i never noticed any big differences between the First contact/Insurrection/Nemesis Sovereign classes.
    Sure if you look at the hundreds torpedo launchers the Nemesis version got all over the hull (only noticeable when they shoot), you can say the ships differ considerable.
    But design wise i can't see any big differences tbh.

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    virusdancer wrote: »
    Heh, I view the forums on a 15" second monitor...and there was no hint of that. Even moving the ARC site over to the 19" there was barely a hint of it there.
    Try STO twitter page maybe it's more visible there.
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    A tale of two Picards
    https://youtu.be/d-f3bscZa0E?t=105
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • moody83moody83 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I"m pretty sure there is a T6 Sovereign coming, the question is when?

    That's a ship i would buy, loved it when i saw First Contact the first time and still love that ship today.
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  • firebringeraxel1firebringeraxel1 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    moody83 wrote: »
    I"m pretty sure there is a T6 Sovereign coming, the question is when?

    That's a ship i would buy, loved it when i saw First Contact the first time and still love that ship today.

    First Contact wasn't the film that made me love that ship it was Insurrection. Watching that big ol' cruiser zip about the Briar Patch gave me chills. Only bad thing was that for me the Son'a Battlecruisers outshined it. Love those designs.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    firebringeraxel1 wrote: »
    First Contact wasn't the film that made me love that ship it was Insurrection. Watching that big ol' cruiser zip about the Briar Patch gave me chills. Only bad thing was that for me the Son'a Battlecruisers outshined it. Love those designs.
    It is not that the Son'a ship was better. The issue was Riker. Every time he was in charge of an Enterprise it just sucked in combat. Need some Ferengi in junkyard B'rel to capture the D while Picard is a child, put Riker in charge. Need some Tamarians to beat the tar out of the D while Picard is trapped on the planet, put Riker in charge. Need some Klingons to destroy the D, put Riker in charge.

    I have no idea how the Titan survived its first encounter when Riker became its Captain. :)
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I have no idea how the Titan survived its first encounter when Riker became its Captain. :)

    The same plot armor the NX-01 had.
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Which is simply amazing stuff, thankfully in limited supply :P
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    The same plot armor the NX-01 had.

    Where can i get that stuff in RL? :D
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    A tale of two Picards
    https://youtu.be/d-f3bscZa0E?t=105
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    It is not that the Son'a ship was better. The issue was Riker. Every time he was in charge of an Enterprise it just sucked in combat. Need some Ferengi in junkyard B'rel to capture the D while Picard is a child, put Riker in charge. Need some Tamarians to beat the tar out of the D while Picard is trapped on the planet, put Riker in charge. Need some Klingons to destroy the D, put Riker in charge.

    I have no idea how the Titan survived its first encounter when Riker became its Captain. :)

    I believe that the other poster was talking about the ships looks, not combat performance.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    yreodred wrote: »
    Where can i get that stuff in RL? :D

    Become a politician, they seem to have stockpiles of it (and another material which I shall not name). :D
  • fluttershoutdarkfluttershoutdark Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If we can time travel back in sto in our starships to find out the mysterious secret about the iconians and their weaknesses
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    It is not that the Son'a ship was better. The issue was Riker. Every time he was in charge of an Enterprise it just sucked in combat. Need some Ferengi in junkyard B'rel to capture the D while Picard is a child, put Riker in charge. Need some Tamarians to beat the tar out of the D while Picard is trapped on the planet, put Riker in charge. Need some Klingons to destroy the D, put Riker in charge.

    I have no idea how the Titan survived its first encounter when Riker became its Captain. :)

    I think he meant that the Son'a ships easily overtook it in speed in the Briar Patch, which is on surprise as Admiral Dougherty himself pointed out that the Enterprise was not properly equipped for travel there(could make for a good engine or console boosting speed when full impulse is off-line or other combat related hazards such as warp plasma).

    As for combat against the Son'a, they were using subspace weapons, more powerful, but also more unpredictable. I will also point out that Riker's judicious use of metrion gas obliterated one Son'a Battleship and severly damaged another.
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