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Did I miss a massive change in the R&D system?

carlosbflycarlosbfly Member Posts: 682 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I haven't crafted in about three months and logged onto to make some ship weapons and now it seems I have to craft items like a Focusing Lens rather than just use some very common materials like Magnesite and some dil (which was much easier)?

I cant even find any info on this but it wasn't like this three months ago and it just seems a more fiddly and dil consuming process for R&D.

What happened here?
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  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    We do have a new crafting system, but it is longer on Holodeck than three months. Where have you been?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The system is essentially the same today as it was when it was introduced with Season 9.5 back in July. The higher the Mark of the gear the more exotic the items are required to Craft it.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    carlosbfly wrote: »
    I haven't crafted in about three months and logged onto to make some ship weapons and now it seems I have to craft items like a Focusing Lens rather than just use some very common materials like Magnesite and some dil (which was much easier)?

    I cant even find any info on this but it wasn't like this three months ago and it just seems a more fiddly and dil consuming process for R&D.

    What happened here?

    Depends on what you want to craft.

    Items: components of some kind or another.
    Components: materials of some kind or another (plus in the case of VR comp, dil)
    Upgrades: Materials and EC
    PADDS (used to create training manuals): Dil + Mats

    OP, you might want to read up on the skill training system. That's the only major change to R+D (and it seems like its the one thing you looked at.)
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  • stormstrykestormstryke Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    fovrel wrote: »
    We do have a new crafting system, but it is longer on Holodeck than three months. Where have you been?


    This. It's been almost a year now.
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  • carlosbflycarlosbfly Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Am I going mad then? I could have sworn I didn't need to make Barrell Syncronizers and Focusing Lens to make Turrets a few months back. I'm sure I just needed common drops (Magnessite for example) and some dil to craft a MK II item.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    carlosbfly wrote: »
    Am I going mad then? I could have sworn I didn't need to make Barrell Syncronizers and Focusing Lens to make Turrets a few months back. I'm sure I just needed common drops (Magnessite for example) and some dil to craft a MK II item.

    *Hands tinfoil hat.* Welcome to the club.

    Dil and uncommon drops are necessary to craft training PADDs. Dil and rare materals are necessary to craft VR components. Upgrades require some combination of materials and a small amount of EC (but no dil). Items require some combination of components (and nothing else).

    These facts have not changed. :)
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  • dabelgravedabelgrave Member Posts: 979 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    carlosbfly wrote: »
    Am I going mad then? I could have sworn I didn't need to make Barrell Syncronizers and Focusing Lens to make Turrets a few months back. I'm sure I just needed common drops (Magnessite for example) and some dil to craft a MK II item.

    It's been this way the whole time. Materials make the component, components make the item. Are you sure you're not combining the two steps into one? Broken down, 1 Turret Mk II uses 2 Duranium, 2 Hydrazine Gas, 3 Magnesite, and 3 Trionium Gas formed into 1 Component - Barrel Synchronizer and 1 Component - Focusing Lens.
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  • drsanitydrsanity Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    carlosbfly wrote: »
    Am I going mad then? I could have sworn I didn't need to make Barrell Syncronizers and Focusing Lens to make Turrets a few months back. I'm sure I just needed common drops (Magnessite for example) and some dil to craft a MK II item.

    You may have had some 'pre-built' components already at hand if you used the new system earlier but didn't need to make the new parts.

    I found I had a number of lenses and bits already in inventory despite never crafting them explicitly as rewards from various R&D tasks.
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  • carlosbflycarlosbfly Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    drsanity wrote: »
    You may have had some 'pre-built' components already at hand if you used the new system earlier but didn't need to make the new parts.

    I found I had a number of lenses and bits already in inventory despite never crafting them explicitly as rewards from various R&D tasks.

    This may be it. My bad. Shows you how easy it is to forget things if you stop doing it for months.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    drsanity wrote: »
    You may have had some 'pre-built' components already at hand if you used the new system earlier but didn't need to make the new parts.

    I found I had a number of lenses and bits already in inventory despite never crafting them explicitly as rewards from various R&D tasks.
    This. There were a lot of parts 'handed out' when R&D first came online. I've still got a crapton of them since I haven't done much actual crafting yet.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    yeah if you do R&D assistance often you'll have a bunch of components laying around.
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