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  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    So...what your saying...is lets nerf something that has you butthurt before we even bother with something OP?

    That's rich...

    I'm in here to defend partgens...and my defense which is clearly justified is that there are other things out there much more powerful and it just sounds like you're vindictive and out to get partgens.

    Well you know what...in PvE FaW is far more superior and in PvP a good vaper is as or more effective...and depending on which faction you're playing...much harder to counter. Cloak makes a vaper sneakier and trickier...but you can't cloak FBP.

    The problem lies in that huge pool of mediocre pvpers who think they are awesome, and yet simply do not think. It's easier to say "partgens are too op" because they counter your super dps no resistance vape build then to say"I lost because of this, how do I counter it and make myself a better pvper." You get the same thing in pve as well.

    Basically it's the fact that a huge epeen can blind you to the fact that you aren't the greatest out thereand that the problem may lie with you and not the system.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ladymyajha wrote: »
    The problem lies in that huge pool of mediocre pvpers
    ... that don't play STO?


    There is no huge pool of PvP players anymore. Maybe a huge pool of potential PvP players.
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  • melineaaelemelineaaele Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    So...what your saying...is lets nerf something that has you butthurt before we even bother with something OP?

    That's rich...

    I'm in here to defend partgens...and my defense which is clearly justified is that there are other things out there much more powerful and it just sounds like you're vindictive and out to get partgens.

    Well you know what...in PvE FaW is far more superior and in PvP a good vaper is as or more effective...and depending on which faction you're playing...much harder to counter. Cloak makes a vaper sneakier and trickier...but you can't cloak FBP.

    Naw, youre reading selectively...

    This post is about partgens, not about FAW.

    Both Things should be nerfed, but since this post was about PG, obviously I focus on that.

    As for the comment about PvP..

    You clearly havent played a Escort against a decent Sci running PM and a huge pool of PG.. You risk blowing up yourself from 1 attack, while its quite possible to tank a vaper, particulary in a Sciship.

    To see what I mean, load up a Klingon, then head to Kerrat and hunt Fed science ships. Or even do a few arenas in a Escort type ship. You will find a huge number of Science Ships, a few cruisers and the odd Escort there.. For good reasons.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Naw, youre reading selectively...

    This post is about partgens, not about FAW.

    Both Things should be nerfed, but since this post was about PG, obviously I focus on that.

    As for the comment about PvP..

    You clearly havent played a Escort against a decent Sci running PM and a huge pool of PG.. You risk blowing up yourself from 1 attack, while its quite possible to tank a vaper, particulary in a Sciship.

    To see what I mean, load up a Klingon, then head to Kerrat and hunt Fed science ships. Or even do a few arenas in a Escort type ship. You will find a huge number of Science Ships, a few cruisers and the odd Escort there.. For good reasons.

    You know what though, youre just as deadly as a tac in an escort against a sci in a PrtG Feedback pulse science ship.
    You have the ability to blow up a ship within seconds, just like a fbp can throw that right back at you.
    If the player is not ready, they are dead. In both cases.

    But even as we speak pilot ships are giving escorts even more options against a fbp user.
    You've got RnR, you got the movement barrels rolls with the pilot ships.
    You can be immune to fbp if you know how to juggle those 2 skills alone.

    But im still willing to admit, TACS in science ships are way OP.
    Again the only reasonable solution is to not allow tacs to buff partgen skills with their GDF, Alpha.


    Why is that the end of the world ? Why do we all have to suffer, because TACS are putting out ridiculous science numbers...
    Someone also mentioned, only scis be able to use PM... Is that so bad either...
    Why must we all suffer because you've come across a dirty tac in a sci ship a few times.

    We discused this a while ago...
    A tac at 100 aux and buffed by GDF and Alpha boosts fbp to x5 return damage...
    Meanwhile my sci with 400+ PrtG and in a Vesta "fully buffed" and at 130 aux can only manage x2.8 for mere seconds (with the Rom science trait) and then falls back and averages 1.8 to 2.4, depending on what buffs I use..
    There is something totally disgusting with those numbers.
    And you still want to nerf everyone....
    Dont you see the problem with those ridiculous numbers ! ?
    Its TACS that are the problem.

    Hell why don't i just retire my sci and engi and just fly a tac...they seem to do EVERYTHING better anyway.

    *sad face*
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  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    As for the comment about PvP..

    You clearly havent played a Escort against a decent Sci running PM and a huge pool of PG.. You risk blowing up yourself from 1 attack, while its quite possible to tank a vaper, particulary in a Sciship.

    To see what I mean, load up a Klingon, then head to Kerrat and hunt Fed science ships. Or even do a few arenas in a Escort type ship. You will find a huge number of Science Ships, a few cruisers and the odd Escort there.. For good reasons.

    You said it right there. A decent Sci ship asically you admit the other player was better then you and schooled you and instead of adapting you're crying about it. You got schooled but instead of being taken to school and learning from it, you're just crying.
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