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Why is Concentrate Firepower 3 >>>> CF1 / CF2?

martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Builds, Powers, and Game Mechanics
The title pretty much sums it up. I've seen some forum dwellers make the claim that CF3 is vastly superior to the lower ranked variants, and I am wondering why. I've been running CF2 on my command cruiser, and I've been pretty happy with the results so far. Is the boost in power so vast that it would be worth sacrificing a Lt. Cmdr engineering skill?

Thanks to anyone who weighs in (especially with that cool math stuff)!
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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    martakurill wrote: »
    The title pretty much sums it up. I've seen some forum dwellers make the claim that CF3 is vastly superior to the lower ranked variants, and I am wondering why. I've been running CF2 on my command cruiser, and I've been pretty happy with the results so far. Is the boost in power so vast that it would be worth sacrificing a Lt. Cmdr engineering skill?

    Thanks to anyone who weighs in (especially with that cool math stuff)!

    Number of available procs
    Damage dealt per shot landed (calculated at what damage makes it to hull)
    Duration is greater (?) [Going from memory]

    Use it. Love it vs unshielded targets. Needs to be re-worked vs shielded targets, imho (ie calculate the 20% BEFORE shield resists & bleedthrough, not what makes it to hull through shields). Call it, "The Torpedo version of the Embassy Console", so you can sleep better at night, Devs. There :) Have a good day!
    @Odenknight | U.S.S. Challenger | "Remember The Seven"
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    Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
    "A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
    I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    darkknightucf wrote: »
    Number of available procs
    Damage dealt per shot landed (calculated at what damage makes it to hull)
    Duration is greater (?) [Going from memory]

    Use it. Love it vs unshielded targets. Needs to be re-worked vs shielded targets, imho (ie calculate the 20% BEFORE shield resists & bleedthrough, not what makes it to hull through shields). Call it, "The Torpedo version of the Embassy Console", so you can sleep better at night, Devs. There :) Have a good day!

    If you used the 4 command consoles and the tachyon platform, you wouldn't have to complain about shields.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    lucho80 wrote: »
    If you used the 4 command consoles and the tachyon platform, you wouldn't have to complain about shields.

    yeah, as long as you're specced into flow caps, it's amazing. In general, I think a lot of people don't get how powerful shield drains can be because it does not show up in parses.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    yeah, as long as you're specced into flow caps, it's amazing. In general, I think a lot of people don't get how powerful shield drains can be because it does not show up in parses.

    But slotting those 4 consoles comes with the *huge* opportunity cost of not being able to slot 4 consoles that could have given you extra CrtH/CritD. Maybe not an issue for a cheating Tact Rom in his/her Scimi, but for a Fed Engineer, it's an issue. :)
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  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    lucho80 wrote: »
    If you used the 4 command consoles and the tachyon platform, you wouldn't have to complain about shields.


    While very true for targets with a high TTL, it doesn't work for when you're breezing through targets. On top of that, I'd lose so much potential damage per salvo that it end up being a net loss overall.

    Besides, what's wrong with having 20% of torpedo damage bypassing shields and going to hull? The game already has shield bypass mechanics for energy weapons. Why not do the same for CF, which is on a CD?
    @Odenknight | U.S.S. Challenger | "Remember The Seven"
    Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
    Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
    "A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
    I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
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