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darkprophet05
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I wish Cryptic would make a Hangar console, purchasable in the c store that would turn any ship with it into a carrier. it would take up a "valuable console slot" so their is some trade off. what does everyone think?
When in doubt, FIRE EVERYTHING!!! (It's the STO way to handle a problem)
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(not to mention everyone would be dropping these things in those eng console slots lol)
Perhaps if there were various one-per-ship console equippable hangars that have lower damage potential of the current hangars, maybe. We'd still see just about every ship in the game launching fighters though...
We'd still see a lot more ships launching fighters, but most ships in Star Trek canon have shuttle bays anyway, so...:P
Edit: I'd like to clarify I'm not opposed to this idea, I'd probably enjoy launching fighters from a few of my non-carrier ships, I'm just concerned about the already unbalanced nature of this game and how this could potentially make it worse...
an assortment of different ad dons based on the size and type of ship. raiders and escorts with hangers LOL no way but a battle cruisers /cruisers or larger ok . but the other options have to be decent or comparable so we don't just end up with pets everyplace.
example:
Mission pod hanger on a battle cruiser fighters only
Mission pod on a dreadnaught or something capable of fighters or frigate
Science mission pod.
green = lt science boff officer seat.
blue = lt commander science boff seat
purple= commander science boff seat.
that sort of thing for all the classes
could also mix them up to allow for abilities alone and no boff like sub system targeting.
or an added weapon mount in the pilots desired arc. lottls of things they could sell to us for our current ships that would mix things up so we are not all alike.
basically like our Kits we use on ground but for our ships.
Aye, we wouldn't want to see Birds of Prey or Defiants launching swarms of fighters, they would have to be limited to cruisers, battlecruisers, sci ships (maybe... might laugh if I see a nova launching fighters), carriers, dreadnoughts, and possibly escort carriers (small, yes, but they already have the necessary hangar space for fighters), there might be other ship types but I can't remember them off-hand lol.
I'm not sure what 'DPS Gap' you're referring to since Cruisers are currently the top DPS'ing ships.
The problem with giving them all hangars is that there are ships that have given up abilities in exchange for hangars. For example, the Command Cruisers have them, but they don't have the full range of Cruiser Commands (The Weapons Power command is really missed.) So giving all Cruisers hangars would mean either adding abilities back to some existing ships or taking away something from non hangar cruisers to compensate.
Personally, I feel that most Cruisers don't need hangars. The Galaxy is the perfect example of a ship that shouldn't have a hangar bay. Yes, it has a hangar for shuttle craft for away missions, but Galaxy Class Starships didn't have fighter wings. It hardly makes sense for a Galaxy Class to be launching fighters.
Honestly, I would think that an explorer would be most sensible to have fighter hangars. The ship is supposed to be out on its own and fighters act as a force multiplier when they are needed.
Again, I can't find any official sorce for this, so it's basically just a logical guess, but it makes sense, because the Galaxy's main shuttle bay is enormous, so much so it was never actually seen on-screen (even in Best of Both Worlds pt. 2 the shuttle was launched from the main shuttlebay but the set was the same one seen in other episodes.), so it wouldn't take much effort to hollow out the saucer a bit more for expanded hangar capacity (since the civilian living quarters wouldn't be needed on a ship being used for war)...
Anyway, adding a Shuttlebay console for ships would make sense even if they could only launch 2-3 shuttles/fighters.
Even the I.K.S. Targ, a B'rel, has to have a shuttlebay since that Klingon fool stole a shuttle and rammed the Doomsday machine, oops spoiler, sorry...
Actually, it's the Akira-class that was envisioned as the carrier according to its designer:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Akira_class_model
The Akira's saucer is supposedly one big "fly-through" shuttlebay. There's no onscreen evidence to support this, of course, but the presence of Akira-class ships in the Dominion War battles would seem to suggest that they were the motherships for the Peregrine fighters if the designer's original intentions were being followed.
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It was going to lead to another debate centered around the Galaxy Class, we have enough of those.
Agreed, don't need another Galaxy discussion thread.
Good catch with the Akira, ironcaniac, all I meant to say was that is is plausible that the Galaxy could have been utilized as a carrier during the Dominion war, I am aware that the Akira was designed with the role of 'gunship/carrier' in mind, but since we never see any peregrines launched from ships we are uncertain as to which ships served as carriers (if any, I believe Peregrines are warp capable, maybe...). And it would make sense that the Galaxy would be used as a carrier, since the 'Galaxy wings' were organized like carrier groups and the class was updated during the war. Anywho...
If a console-hangar were developed it could be labeled as the ship's 'shuttlebay', and as such limited to a single console per ship (wouldn't want to be launching too many auxiliary craft from smaller ships), perhaps one 'wing' of shuttles/fighters, which would keep ships from being able to launch as many ships as carriers...
Also, depending on the price, account vs. single item, effectiveness, etc... I would definately consider purchasing such items from the C-store, would love being able to launch shuttles from my *ahem* unnamed class ship...;)
Having not used the ship device or the actual hangar I don't know the difference between the two but the ship device small craft should be weaker than their hangar counterparts.
In addition I would restrict the small craft ship devices to non-carriers.
Definately this! The only reason I haven't been spamming the hell out of those Scorpion Fighter devices is they are consumed after 50 uses and I'd have to do *that* mission again just to get another, admittedly it's not a bad mission, but replaying it over and over just to restock on fighter devices is mind-numbingly tedious.
I don't see any problems with non-carriers or carriers being restricted from using a console or device hangar, even the U.S.S. Defiant carried a few shuttles after all...
I would definately restrict the consoles/device hangars from small craft (shuttles and fighters), for obvious reasons. lol
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because it would make certain parts of the fan base cry about how that "was never done in the shows".
personally, i like the idea of my excelsior's massive shuttle bays being taken into account.
Well... most of the shows, and some of the movies actually show various 'cruisers' launching shuttles, Connie, Connie Refit, Galaxy, Sovereign, Intrepid (which is a sci ship in-game but it was seen many times launching shuttles), and while I can't remember actually seeing one launched the Defiant (also not a cruiser I know) had at least one shuttle available on board, and used in the TV show. So there is some precedent for a shuttlebay being made available for use in STO, though there will always be people who say "This sucks! I don't want this!", and to those I'd just say: "If you don't want it, don't use it."
Personally I'd love using the shuttlebays on my various ships, while I doubt it'd be terribly effective it'd be fun.