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Storyline involving the Tkon Empire in a future season?
djsimonroc88
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I was actually wondering about something very interesting related to star trek. The first episode of star trek tng encounter at fairpoint had the enterprise go to an unknown planet which was supposed to of been the home world of the extinct tkon empire if I an right. I know that not much info on this species was given. But I think it would be cool if there was a storyline where Q sends us back to the past where the Tkon were not extinct and could possibly give us a helping hand in defeating the iconians. What I do know is that they were extinct 60,0000 years ago when Q's counterpart 0 destroyed their homeworld or something like that.. I would like to see something like this in a future season so I want to know what you guys think if this is an interesting idea?
Face palming the enemy one at a time.
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I put a timeline in this post you might find helpful:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=23361801&postcount=23
The t'kon empire fell 600,000 years in the past, not 60,000.
O is not canon, he does not officially exist and I dearly hope never gets added to sto.
The episode you are thinking of was "last outpost" not farpoint.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Last_Outpost_(episode)
That said, I think there is a lot of potential for linking the t'kon and the iconians. The t'kon could move planets and whole star systems, they were wiped out by a supernova,had pretty impressive artificial lifeforms as guardians, and are the closest big empire in time to the iconians (despite being three times older).
The guardian in that episode was quite interesting, and I think could make some very interesting missions dealing with artificial beings in the alliance.
Only to find out after the iconian war they are not extinct and have been biding thier time to attack also heres something perculiar.
When you talk to the prophet during i think crack in the mirror they say the ones always protects the iconians and save them that they sacved them before and would save them again.
we know the t'kon went extinct 60,000,000 years ago i think was the number but how old was thier race and were THEY the ones who saved the iconians.
and will they be the ones to save them again and we find out much to our di9smay that at the end of the iconian war is the start of a much bigger far reaching conflict with the t'kon empire.
Face palming the enemy one at a time.
I'm tired of seeing Star Trek factions that weren't developed upon in the series be turned into villains, The Iconians and the Undine were turned into antagonists despite seeing in Voyager that Species 8472 only attacked the Milky way galaxy out of fear and captain Picard stated that the Iconians history was written by the enemies that destroyed their world who naturally branded and demonised the Iconians likely out of fear of their technology, we didn't see any evidence that the Tkon empire was Violent.
We actually know a lot more about the T'Kon as people from the TV show. Well, assuming that Portal 63 is typical of them.
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It is just the typical Trek writing: all big ideas with no real through given to them.
Here's a thought... they could move entire stars right? So what if they had an accident while moving one? Stuff happens. I mean all it takes is one bad day.
Sabotage. Or is that too easy for you?
i would sooner like to see cryptic on a cardassian faction first and a renewed storyline from the dominion/gamma quadrant side of things. like unfinished business by iconian spies who wish to take so much revenge for the loss of their invasion, that they manipulate the dominion into a full all out war once again.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
There were worse things about that episode than the writing :v
We can make artificial islands and mountains, make it snow on the desert, cause a two mile high tornado of flame (Dresden), move the path of rivers, cause entire seas to vanish... And can't protect trailer parks from tornados.
As said above, accidents happen, and who knows how much of the information we have? I do know, once one starts supernovae put out some brutally nasty energy (see the end Ordovician extinction event) at very long ranges.
I'd rather see a season without some new enemy and yet another war. Things are getting a bit unrealistic, with the Federation and its allies capturing two Dyson spheres, fighting off the Undine, Borg, Voth, Elachi, Tholians, Chrystalline entities, True Way and countless others.
Take for example the mission 'The Breach' or the missions where the Undine attack ESD or planets like Andoria and Gornar. Every time we lose a small fleet or even entire fleets.
We've lost entire colonies and thousands of officers, reseachers and captains (Simmons and the Dyson captain for example). Remember, all this is happening in less than 2 years. By now the Federation and its allies should be stretched thin to the point that another Dominion War should result in the collapse of the Alliance and its members. It's even stated several times in-game that the Federation is stretched thin.
I've always considered it to be completely unrealistic to have the Romulan Republic show up everywhere to help in the efforts anyway. They should still be building their homeworld, not having countless ships patrolling distant parts of the Milky Way.
Having countless wars makes things simply too unbelievable. Every time in the shows, the Federation was barely able to defend its own territory like in First Contact or during the Dominion War (hell we lost Betazed because a fleet was on a training exercise and we would've likely lost the war if it weren't for a Deus ex machina called 'the Prophets').
Having the Federation defend its own territory and patrolling almost the entire Milky Way, Dyson spheres, the Delta Quadrant while fighting a new Dominion War AFTER fighting off a galaxy wide invasion by the Iconians and with all the losses from earlier conflicts adding up and still win this new war doesn't make any sense.
It's time for a season without conflict, for a change. The Federation needs it, the Romulan Republic most certainly needs it, the Klingons and especially Klingons like J'mpok may not like it but it'd be best for them as well to have a period with some peaceful growth, the founding of new colonies, building new shipyards and perhaps creating some new holograms to replace the personnel losses. Perhaps add some peaceful exploration like the OP suggests.
It is just bad writing. The TNG writers needed a dead race to mention in the story so they simply invented one, without giving any real thought to what they were adding to canon. Trek writers have been doing that for decades. The same writers who were creating technobabble for TOS one week were writing Hoss and Little Joe arguments for Bonanza a week later.
so yeah... Iconians. unless the T'Kon had another enemy who could blow up stars.
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Who said anything about a surprise? Is it such a stretch that the TNG writers imagined something like the horrific transporter accident in the opening of the motion picture happening when they tried to move a star?