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iamynaught
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I just logged out for lunch and as soon as I did, the launcher started back up and began patching something about 6+ gigs in size.
So, if this is indeed the pre-patch for Season 10, is it going to actually work this time or is it going to be like every other major update since season 7 where I download the pre-patch (sometimes multiple times) and then have to re-download it on the day the content goes live? Because if it is, I'll just keep canceling the pre-patch and just plan on not playing for the first day or two after the content goes live.
I don't know what the problem is with the pre-patch not working, but I have reported it every time and I'm not alone when it comes to it not working.
Please, PLEASE, make sure the pre-patch is going to work. It's a huge waste of time and bandwidth to download it if it isn't going to do what it's "advertised" to do.
So, if this is indeed the pre-patch for Season 10, is it going to actually work this time or is it going to be like every other major update since season 7 where I download the pre-patch (sometimes multiple times) and then have to re-download it on the day the content goes live? Because if it is, I'll just keep canceling the pre-patch and just plan on not playing for the first day or two after the content goes live.
I don't know what the problem is with the pre-patch not working, but I have reported it every time and I'm not alone when it comes to it not working.
Please, PLEASE, make sure the pre-patch is going to work. It's a huge waste of time and bandwidth to download it if it isn't going to do what it's "advertised" to do.
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Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
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Edit: ...and they're purchasing zen. *cough T6 Galaxy
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So with logic if they do it now while people are playing etc the lag in theory should be much much less.
If you patch/play on Tribble (and keep that up to date), there's no rason at all to bother with Pre-patching (IE you can close the Launcher as it pops back up before it starts downloading.) Why? because when S10 goes live, the patcher will pull what it needs directly from you're current Tribble directory. So, if you patch/playtest on Tribble when tehy release a patch to it, you're already covered when S10 goes Live.
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I keep Tribble up to date as well, at least since Legacy of Romulus. (I knew I forgot something in my original post) It hasn't worked yet. It's like the launcher forgets where it put the files and refuses to use them to update. I know that it works for others, but not for me. And again, I'm not the only one.
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Better than a major expansion
I have never had this problem in the five plus years of the game's life.
In fact, all the time, every time, the downloads to my pc from cryptic take less than five minutes...fifteen at the very most, if ever, that many minutes.
I'm not sure why you have so much trouble...unless you're inflating the issue. Today's culture demands instantaneous gratification. And when it comes to the internet, one minute...sixty real life seconds...is just too damn long for "them" to wait.
If you're saying keeping tribble up to date equals keeping holodeck up to date, then you are not correct. They are mutually exclusive of each other.
I have had the exact same issue as the original poster. I have fully downloaded the pre-patch only to have to repeat the process again a week later when the patch goes live. It is an issue that did occur for some people. You say you are "not sure why you have so much trouble". Well, if you're "not sure", a little forum research would reveal that this indeed was an issue for some people with the last major patch like this. I guess not bothering to do a forum search before attacking someone on the forums could be considered one form of instant gratification. Just because you haven't had the issue is no reason to accuse this person of inflating the issue. To pile on and accuse him of demanding instant gratification with additional hyperbole is unnecessary. That's great that it takes you less than 5 minutes to download over 6 gigabytes. I assure I am appropriately envious. Not everybody has access to that kind of Internet service.
Maybe the launcher has problems to identify the files on the harddrive?
I don't think that the lag was caused by the anniversary patch; but rather an automated script hitting everyone in the game when they logged on because of the BOFF changes.
That said, didn't one of the Devs say that a script would be coming with Season 10 to automatically upgrade all the items from the pre-Season 9.5 items to the new items? That could cause...problems.
Yeah, there's going to be the...er...this: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1402701
I have always been required to download several gigs of data each season. never been able to play on 1st day... not even for events like mirror invasion or crystalline entity. <- takes 1 day to do a full download since I dont want to spend hours waiting while my DSL downloads 3 to 6 gigs of data at 75 kbps - Thanks AT&T!
it may save you some of the download... but certainly not the full amount you download now.
No, not inflating the issue at all.
I don't have a fast internet speed, it can take me more than an hour to download a gig on a good day. So when there is a BIG patch for the game, I want to make it as painless as possible on launch day so I can get in and enjoy the new content. That means I want to use the pre-patch system.
Unfortunately, it simply doesn't work for me. I can let it download and when it's done the launcher will close. I can start up the game the next day, play and close the game and most times, it tries to pre-patch again. Now, I get that it initiates the process to check that everything is up to date. This is normal, I get that.
Most times however, it begins to re-download the pre-patch again. I don't know why. If I let it continue, and I have before, it WILL download the patch a second time. (or third or fourth...) I have monitored my bandwidth and sure enough, it does re-download it. And then come release day, the pre-patch apparently cannot be found by the launcher and I end up having to start from scratch.
Which makes my downloading of the pre-patch utterly useless. And means that I can't usually play on release day due to having to download several gigs worth of data at a time when hundreds if not thousands of others are doing the same. My slow download speed becomes even slower and takes that much longer for me to finish.
Also, I know there is a difference between the amount of data being patched and the actual amount of data being downloaded, with the download size being smaller than the amount being patched. If the pre-patch would actually work for me, on release day there would be a few minutes of patching and then likely a small amount of downloading to get any files that may have been updated between the time I pre-patched and the actual "Live" release. Okay, that small amount might end up being a few hundred megs in the end, but that's so much better than 5-ish gigs.
No, that's not what I'm saying. I know that Holodeck and Tribble are not the same and keeping one updated does not mean the other is.
However, a workaround that some folks have had success with is keeping Tribble updated and then come release day, the Holodeck files get updated/copied from their Tribble folder. This has never worked for me either.
While I'm certainly glad that apparently most players do not have the types of problems I do with pre-patching, there are players that are in a similar situation.
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Check your STO files for a folder called "Prepatch" that is about 6GB big. If it's there then pre-patch is working correctly...
Also, if you see the pre-patch everytime you log out, it means that everytime you log out the launcher is going to very that you have the pre-patched files, if there is any slight difference, it is going to download the new files it needs...
however keep in mind the numbers show represent 2 actual things...
Patched - means the size of the files patched
Received - is the total size you "actually" downloaded
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This is a huge waste of not only time, but money as well.
Edited 18/04/15
The patch finally completed, now it just keeps patching the same 3 MB at the launcher start over and over. I checked the data, it actually downloads it repeatedly. Way to go Cryptic, redundancy is after all a Star Trek feature.
I started up the launcher at 6:45am Pacific and started downloading the patch. I had hoped that since I downloaded the pre-patch that there would be just minor downloading needed, to "catch up" to whatever changes were made between the pre-patch and the release today.
Well, as of right now, I've downloaded 615 megs and patched 968 megs of data. Which is telling me that the pre-patch didn't work for me.
Again.
How difficult is it to actually get this system to work? I ask this honestly because I WANT the pre-patch system to actually do what it's advertised. I spend time and bandwidth downloading the pre-patch only to not have it work since Season 7, which was what, 2 and a half years ago?
I give up.
I love the game, I will continue to play it and support it when I can, but I have resigned myself to not being able to play the game on the day of a major content release due to the fact that pre-patching does not work for me.
With a slow-ish download speed, this means that even if I only have to download half the amount of data that gets patched, it'll be several hours before it's done. Add in that several thousand other players are updating the game as well and my slow download speed is even slower.
Fine, I can wait. I'd rather be playing but whatever. I'll just let the game update and come back later.
I get it too, I'm in the minority. Why look for a fix for the 1% (or however many it is) who have problems with pre-patching when the 99% have no trouble. It's just really annoying and I would like to know exactly what to do to get this to work correctly.
I've asked and reported this problem for years now. I've looked for solutions, done what other players have suggested with no luck.
Oh well, I hope that folks who have no problems enjoy a flawless launch to Season 10. I'll be back tomorrow, if I'm lucky.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Meh, my download is already done and yours probably will be too by the time the game pops up around 10am Pacific, 1 pm my time (sux)
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Yes, I pre-patched. I keep Tribble up to date. None of it works for me, it's just wasted bandwidth and time. Thankfully I don't have a download cap.
Unfortunately I still have faith that the system will work 'this time', but it never does.
955 megs downloaded, 1315 megs patched. I'm at 19% after an hour and 20 minutes so if it holds out (which it won't, it'll make big jumps here and there) I'm looking at another 5-ish hours.
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Might i suggest a better connection, i opened the patcher maybe 20 minutes ago and i'm at about 71%, what exactly is the rush though, server isn't up for another 2 hours anyway, or are you one of those people living somewhere that still seems to think data caps are a "thing"?
As for how long it takes you to download. That's on your net, as most have stated in their own posts.
For those of you using Sattelite, AT&T, or Comcast. I'm sorry... but there isn't anything we can do for you suffering there.
The only consistent thing I can think of across all 3 systems is that STO is never installed into the default directory. Maybe there is something about custom folders the launcher doesn't like?