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jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited April 2015 in The Academy
Hello everyone. I'm a player who tried STO a long time ago but didn't really stick around or get very far. The delta recruit event got me to come back and man! The game has really improved! At least the story has.

Anyways to my question. We get marks during the delta recruit progression but we have to choose which ones we want. Well not knowing anything about what marks get you what, or what marks are the hardest to obtain, I have no idea which would be the most beneficial to obtain on the bonuses. I was thinking either fleet marks or delta marks since delta is the latest expansion and I've read it gets really grindy once you get to Delta.

Also you should probably know I'm willing to spend a little money. It seems like I saw a cheap zen store upgrade for ships to fleet status. Though to he honest I have was kind of confused as to what it really was.

I do know I was planning on getting antiproton radiant gear and I think that requires delta marks. But I also wanted to upgrade my ship tp fleet when I become an admiral. So which is it? Fleet or delta? Or is there another one even more useful or harder to obtain?
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Fleet marks are generally the most abundant, and you get a bunch of those without a choice as well.

    Right now, all the reputation marks can come from queued content or adventure zone (solo/open zone) content, and some (Romulan and Delta) also come from patrols (solo).

    Romulan, Delta, Dyson, and 8472 all come from a fairly compact area in the Tau Dewa sector block, the Sphere, and the Delta quadrant. Tholian marks come from Nukara Prime in Eta Eridani, and several queues (including crystalline entity, which is one of the easiest ones to get finished these days). Omega's adventure zone is the farthest away in the Deferi sectors, and their queues are some of the least reliable these days.

    Thanks to the adventure zones and the daily bonus (the first time you get marks of a given type in a day, you get 55 extras, enough to cover your progression projects and a respectable chunk of most item requisitions), none of them are particularly difficult to get, but Omega is probably the least convenient.
  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    First thanks for the helpful reply! Do omega marks get you pretty good stuff? Or has the delta content outdated it?
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    First thanks for the helpful reply! Do omega marks get you pretty good stuff? Or has the delta content outdated it?

    Of all the reputations omega has the most stuff and the most good stuff. Unless you fly a science ship.

    The space sets are best mixed and matched, none of them are so great as a complete three piece. But none are particularly bad either.

    The top space items are:
    Maco (adapted honor guard if you're kdf) shield. This is the poor man's plasmonic leech and a very strong shield combined in one.

    Assimilated Borg engine + deflector. Fastest engine in the game (tied with fleet and a smidge faster out of slipstream than maco, but smidge slower while in slipstream). With both pieces you get a nice hull heal in combat. It is .5% max hull per second, so if you have a 50k destroyer that's ~250 hull per second, every second.

    Console + koinetic cutting beam. Console gives crit and damage, cutting beam is a 360-degree beam that deals the same damage as torpedoes so sucks on shields, shreds hull. Combined they give a stacking weapon power buff.

    The four ground sets are all still solid. The maco set has lost a little shine with the tr116b being a better sniper gun, but the honor guard set is still the most aoe on the ground. All are very survivable.
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  • zarato4218zarato4218 Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hello everyone. I'm a player who tried STO a long time ago but didn't really stick around or get very far. The delta recruit event got me to come back and man! The game has really improved! At least the story has.

    Anyways to my question. We get marks during the delta recruit progression but we have to choose which ones we want. Well not knowing anything about what marks get you what, or what marks are the hardest to obtain, I have no idea which would be the most beneficial to obtain on the bonuses. I was thinking either fleet marks or delta marks since delta is the latest expansion and I've read it gets really grindy once you get to Delta.

    Also you should probably know I'm willing to spend a little money. It seems like I saw a cheap zen store upgrade for ships to fleet status. Though to he honest I have was kind of confused as to what it really was.

    I do know I was planning on getting antiproton radiant gear and I think that requires delta marks. But I also wanted to upgrade my ship tp fleet when I become an admiral. So which is it? Fleet or delta? Or is there another one even more useful or harder to obtain?

    I think that the antiprotons you are talking about are from the Iconian Rep that is coming with season 10. Those will require the new Iconian marks and neither the gear nor the marks are available yet. If you don't mind waiting, S10 comes out sometime after delta recruitment ends, probably in mid-late May. Or you could save EC and buy the ever popular standard AP which gets boring, but is one of the best due to the inherant crit rate.

    Finally, don't forget that if you want to use fleet modules to upgrade to a fleet ship you need to be in a fleet with a shipyard that can sell them. Further it takes more fleet modules to buy said ship if you don't own the c-store version, if it has one. And as to gear, ultimatley remember that the "best" depends on your style as they all have ups and downs. Good luck and happy gameing.:)

    EDIT: Somewhat ninja'd by Westmetals. Wow, I really need to learn to type faster. :D
    As Zephram Cochrane once said, "That'll do, pig. That'll do." - April 1st 2015. o:)
  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Zarota: Ah. You're totally correct. That is the gear I was talking about. So I won't be able to get marks for it yet because its not even in game yet. don't know why I was thinking it was delta marks. I guess that weighs out saving up for them heh.

    I'm currently in access denied fleet. I think they got everything top tiered. So the fleet shouldn't be a problem. My plan is to get the Armitage from the zen store. I really like the look of it and I got the thunderchild and really enjoy the point defense system (it seems to work great with the warp burst pacitor and beam: fire at will ability. I understand the console for the Armitage is like the point defense system but with photons and seeing im all about the aoe dps i thought it would complement me best. Im also excited about the carrier aspect of it but have no idea how any of that works as ive never used it. All in all it sounds like a fun little ship.

    Currently I run a drake build beam boat with all tetryon beams (because I like blue) for pve right now but I'm only a commander. I read general consensus is antiproton or disruptors are usually the best. So I was thinking going with that iconian set that's coming out for the harder end game stuff. I wanted to eventually upgrade it to fleet and even t5u. How many fleet modules would that take of you don't mind me asking?

    Gavinruneblade: thanks for that. You got me double guessing if the iconian set is the best way to go now. Those all sound pretty impressive. So if I focus on one type of reputation this is the most rewarding one and inconveniently located one.Ill keep that in mind!

    Westmetals: I don't even know what masteries are! But what you said makes sense. Just spread it out and get a good head start on all of them. If I got a reward pack for each reputation and a piece of gear for each reward pack. I'd have a pretty decent load out by the time I got one from each mastery right? Also you said you don't get the special consoles with the fleet versions of ships. But I just want to make sure. If I upgrade my armitage to fleet and t5u I can still use my photon defense system, right?
  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Also I just wanted to thank each of you for taking the time to give such informative and detailed answeres and having patience with me. I know I'ma total noob at rereputation marks and fleet ships and stuff. I've never been over the rank of Commander so most of this is just theory to me. I've just been trying to piece together my own thing from all I've learned here and on reddit. That being said as soon as the delta recruit thing started asking me what kind of marks I wanted, I had no idea what choice was wisest or best. I feel like I can make a more informed decision. My delta recruit is my main and I want to do it right. I plan on sticking around a while this time. So thank you all for your help! This is a great community. A lot less volatile than other mmo communities. Live long and prosper!
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    If you just care about damage then the new iconians set is probably not the "best". Current flavor of the month is as follows (assuming beam fire at will as the base of the build):

    1 Nukara shield and deflector
    2 Assimilated Borg engine (or fleet)
    3 Nukara, romulan, & omega reputation consoles. Plus tachyokoinetic convertor (temporal warfare in the lobi store) and plansmonic leech
    4 Fleet spire tactical vulnerability locators
    5 Fleet embassy plasma explosion science consoles

    This is not a " well rounded" build. Its rather squishy. The omega stuff combines offense and defense nicely. I am waiting to see how the iconians stuff performs on tribble before voicing any opinions on it.

    As for reputation, I do recommend working on ALL of them, especially the ones you never plan to use any gear from.

    Here's a little math. 100,000 exp needed to max out a reputation. The daily project costs 30 marks and gives 340 dilithium and 2,500 rep points. 100,000/2,500 = 40 days = 340*40 = 13,600 dilithium. When you max a reputation you get a bonus usually 32,00 dilithium. So that's 45,600 dil. Omega is special you only get 8k dil not 32k.

    So all six reps combined gives you ~249,000 dilithium. But wait, there's more. You also get a bonus 500 or 750 marks for each rep upon reaching tier 5. Those can all be converted to dilithium (assuming you're not buying from the reputation.

    So let's subtract the 1,500 marks for nukara, romulan, and omega consoles (assuming you want those) and pay the 9,000 dil for each console, but turn the other 1,500 marks into dil. You actually walk away with...

    The three consoles, plus 237,600 dilithium and whatever random stuff came out of the daily boxes (mostly vendor trash).

    So yeah, go for all 6, it pays for itself and then some.
  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Ok. I can definitely see spreading it out benefiting me more in the long run. I could definitely use all that dilithium and maybe even the consoles. I didn't want to make it sound like I'm all about dps. I like a little survivability to fall back on. I was even considering saving up dilithium to eventually get the intel ships, if only for their traits. The eclipse trait defensive bonus and the escorts cooldown bonust when the enemy misses you sounds incredibly useful. So ill probably stick to the omega set so I can have a little of both. I hate dying. Absolutely hate it lol. So generally I avoid pvp because I die a lot there. So a little survivability with my aoe damage is preferred. Anyways thanks for the math! Its not my strong point but seeing it all out there in front of me cleared everything up. Ill just rotate the rewards I collect.
  • zarato4218zarato4218 Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Ok. I can definitely see spreading it out benefiting me more in the long run. I could definitely use all that dilithium and maybe even the consoles. I didn't want to make it sound like I'm all about dps. I like a little survivability to fall back on. I was even considering saving up dilithium to eventually get the intel ships, if only for their traits. The eclipse trait defensive bonus and the escorts cooldown bonust when the enemy misses you sounds incredibly useful. So ill probably stick to the omega set so I can have a little of both. I hate dying. Absolutely hate it lol. So generally I avoid pvp because I die a lot there. So a little survivability with my aoe damage is preferred. Anyways thanks for the math! Its not my strong point but seeing it all out there in front of me cleared everything up. Ill just rotate the rewards I collect.

    You may already know this by now, but yes even though a fleet ship dosen't come with a console, if you own the c-store version you can use it on the fleet one too. All T1 to T4 consoles can be used on any ship and all T5-T6 can be used on any varient of that same class i.e. the new T6 D'Kellrah (which is a subclass of the famous D'Deridex) has a console that can be used on the T5-U D'Deridex as well as the Fleet T6 D'Kellrah. (Wow, those romulan names are a pain to spell.:rolleyes:) Obviously my example is of Romulan ships but the concept is the same for all factions.

    Also, I bought the Delta Pack, and can say without a doubt that Reciprocity (The Phantom escort trait you mentioned) is by far the most useful of the intel mastery traits. Most other players agree with this as well to the point of bemoaning the fact that KDF and ROM don't have a version they can use. (I am one of those people:D)

    Finally I am glad you like it here and many of us are happy to help. But still beware the trolls and doomers, as STO sadly has many. Just look through the forums or ESD zone chat long enough. First don't buy into the many threads of the "this game is dying" crowd.They have always been here and I will admit that when I started they got me a few times and made me think the game was nearly done. Of course that was two years ago now so...:rolleyes:. (Despite my glitched forum join date of Oct 2014, it was actually Oct 2013.)

    Second, I don't know if you mean pure PvP (which I never do either) or the grouped queues, but if you mean the queues, don't be afarid of dying. As long as you start on normal difficulty and have at least Mk X-XI gear (even just greens) you should do fine. You get pretty used to the routine of each mission and soon its not that bad even with a pug (of course some exceptions do apply). They are also a decent source of XP, Marks, and the all important dil which the marks can be converted to if you don't need them.

    I would also suggest the Undine Space Battlezone, once you can access it, in the Dyson Sphere. There is no grouping you just wait for enough people to show up and start liberating space points. Since it gives lots of dil, marks and the undine elitle marks, it can be a good place to get your first sets of ground gear or space gear, depending on your build, especially for alts. This is especially true if you ever make a sci character as the undine counter-command deflector is a must have for that class. At least it is alot more reliable and efficient than getting Borg or Delta Elite marks right now. Though if recent Dev posts are right getting them from queues might be easier soon so fingers crossed on that one:D. The Voth Battlezone and the Kobali or New Romulus adventure zones are good too, but they are ground combat and it sounded like you were focusing on space gear for now, so your away team may not be ready. Still they are good to remember for the future.

    Anyway, thats a long enough wall of text for now so once again good luck and happy gaming.
    As Zephram Cochrane once said, "That'll do, pig. That'll do." - April 1st 2015. o:)
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The above is excellent advice. One other thing, there's a lot of great free great from missions. While you're saving for your final build, try the jem haddar set from the cardassian arc. It has some bonus damage, some survivability, and it is free. Its plenty good enough for even advanced difficulty queues.
  • zarato4218zarato4218 Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Gavinrunblade also makes a good point. The Jem'Hadar set is good for all ships, but especially escorts, more so if you use polaron weapons which it boosts. And if you find you like how it handles, while its max drop level is Mk XI, you can upgrade it to Mk XII and up. Sometimes, depending on exhange prices for upgrade kits or if you use the free level 10 crafting school of a delta recruit to make improved crafting kits this can be cheaper than rep gear and you don't have to wait to hit Tier 5 of the rep, which is when shields become available, to complete a set. This is especially important as it takes 40 days to grind to Tier 5 rep, unless you have already done it on another toon where with a Sponsership it would only take 20.

    As Gavinrunblade also mentioned this is not the only "free" set either. You can get the Breen Absolute Zero Mk XI set from the Breen Arc (Second storyline after Cardassians) which boosts transphasic torpedos and sci abilities. Unfortunatley, you won't be able to get the last and newest piece, the warp core/singularity core, until December as it is sold during the Holiday event. There is also the Solonae Mk XII set from the level 50 Dyson Arc episode A Step Between Stars(You can start this once you hit 50 from your episode journal, no matter where you are in the story. However there will be some spoilers as you won't have met all the characters yet.) which among other things boosts shields well.

    Far down the road, when you hit 60 and have completed most of the Delta expansion stories, you will have access to the Kobali set from the anniversary episode Dust to Dust. This set is very tanky and boosts team survivability and healing. Unfortunatley like the Breen set this set is completed by a Warp Core/Singularity Core that is not currently available. This one was found on the anniversary ship, the T6 Kobali Samsar.

    Finally, and perhaps most time sensitive, if you have not noticed the Featured Episode Uneasy Allies yet, it offers a complete ground set that is very good for tac characters, especially if you crouch and aim in ground combat. The set includes a shield, armor and a kit that boosts plasma damage and criticals. The kit comes with a free module too that shrouds you in plasma and damages the first person to attack you. The armor and shield can be upgraded as you level all the way to Mk XII for free. After that it costs dil as usual. The kit cannot be upgraded so you would have to play the mission again at higher levels to get a better one. Finally there is also a neat plasma pistol reward too. It is not part of the set, but since the set boosts plasma damage it is still useful and it has a, so far, unique smg style firing mode. But after this Thursday's maintinence the Feature run will be over and the mission will become level 60 minimum. It does have some spoilers for the lead up to S10's Iconian War, but having a strong ground set for early game leveling that levels with you for free is almost too good to pass up. And for me at least would be worth seeing a few spoilers.

    If you don't want to be spoiled or run out of time, there is also a free Jem'Hadar ground set but I never really liked it that much and it dosen't have a kit (It comes with a polaron rifle instead). Still that dosen't mean you wouldn't find it useful and it does have a built in shroud I think, though its a proc and cannot be activated at will.
    As Zephram Cochrane once said, "That'll do, pig. That'll do." - April 1st 2015. o:)
  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks for all the awesome tips. Ill check out each of those sets and see what they offer. For ground I'm pretty golden thanks to the delta recruit status. Every ten levels I just grab the purple ground gear. I'm pretty much roflstomping all the ground mobs for now. Even without aiming or crouching. Most mobs die before they even know what's going on. I'm not very far in the story arc though. I'm currently a freighter captain in some alternate universe with natasha yar. But still in the klingon arc. I think. My ships holding out pretty good. I melt mobs pretty quick. The only time I didn't was in starbase 24. Got a little worried there but a quick picard manuver pulled me out of a bad spot. Anyways you guys are awesome. I have more questions but I guess I should make a new thread as they are unrelated to this post. Thanks again!
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  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks for clearing that up westmetals. So you need one fleet module AND fleet credits. I wonder if ill earn enough during the delta recruit event. Probably not.

    Quick question though. You mentioned the soveriegn refit. Which I also want. Though I had settled on earning the dilithium for that one. I knew ablut the blue phasers for the enterprise (though I didn't know you could level them to mk xII for free! :o ), I knew about the quad cannons on the defiant, but what special weapon does the Sovereign have? If you don't mind me asking.

    Also thanks for the heads up on mission replay rewards. Ill have to loom at that wiki. I have noticed some weapons I get. Like the type one phaser doesn't have a mk or even the infinite symbol the phasers have in the tos pack. Does that mean the item scales with you as you level? I thought it wierd it didn't have anything.
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Fleet modules cost ~9million ec on the auctionhouse. You can earn that from selling the crafting materials you earn doing the rnd support academy project.

    The fleet ships also cost 20,000 fleet credits which you should easily get by spending the delta recruit bonus dilithium for joining a fleet.

    The free sovereign at level 40 has nothing special. The 2,500zen version at level 50 comes with metreon gas canisters (basically a variant of eject warp p
    asma) and the truly amazing wide angle quantum torpedo, which is a 180degree torpedo. Very popular.

    Only items that have the infinity symbol level up with you. The type 1 phaser does not.
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  • jaredwillcutt479jaredwillcutt479 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks again. Looks like I almost got everything I need! I cant believe I'm almost there. Since the xp bonus I've flown from commander to admiral.10 more till 50! That quantum torpedo thing sounds incredibly useful. Does it work on Escorts? I know the photon defense system only works on the Armitage ships.
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks again. Looks like I almost got everything I need! I cant believe I'm almost there. Since the xp bonus I've flown from commander to admiral.10 more till 50! That quantum torpedo thing sounds incredibly useful. Does it work on Escorts? I know the photon defense system only works on the Armitage ships.

    The wide angle quantum works on all ships.
  • pwneddedpwnedded Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I cant make new post so ill ask here and hope i get answer.

    As delta recruit i see im getting a lot od dilitium from finishing episodes, will i continue to get them on delta recruit characters even when event ends next month?
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