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gueneyhallek0420
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I was just in ESD collecting the loot from the temporal guy for the fed I never play and I was looking at ships. I really dig my fleet patrol escort but the Defiant just seems better. 3 Sci consoles, I'm down. At least take that locked phaser tail gun off. Not like I'm expecting it to happen or think I'm the first to come up with it, just saying
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The Gorn-danged tailgun sits there, so one would have to consider a phaser build to want it.
It's pretty decent and can do a lot of damage, and phaser builds aren't that bad
2 isn't going to happen, so quit complaining.
That ship is super outdated anyway.
As for the Tailgun, yes it's fused.. but it's a free weapon. No escort currently has 4 aft weapons, if the Tempest Tail Gun were removed, you wouldn't get a free slot instead, you would just be left with the standard 4/3 layout. Yes, it's Phaser, but so is the Saturation Bomb, so it definitely benefits the ship to go Phaser. Still, it's not required.
To me, the Tactical Escort (Defiant) is just a run of the mill glass cannon that offers nothing special at all. The Defiant was rendered obsolete by the Phantom, the Patrol Refit still has a very strong place in the game.
Even worse are the players that keep the TRIBBLE-end of that high powered escort facing the enemy as long as possible while their powerful forward weapons are sitting there useless. All to keep that pathetic rear facing dual cannon firing.
If that thing was something like a turret, heavy turret, or omni-beam, maybe we got something. But as it stands now, it's utterly worthless, even on a Phaser build.
In the name of Da Sisko, please, just pretend it doesn't exist.
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Wow, I can't say I have seen anyone do that.. but man that's foolish. It's also pretty funny.
Best thing to do right there. Just pretend it's not there, any damage it actually deals is just a bonus. It might get off a few shots on strafing runs, otherwise, just pretend it's not there.
Exactly, it's the only 'downside' to that ship and it's certainly not much of a negative. Since every other escort is 4/3 at best all the Tail gun amounts to is a very very small bonus that hardly does anything. The only reason it's not completely horrible is because it's an 'extra' weapon. If it was a 4/3 with the fused gun leaving you only 2 aft slots then it would be absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, that's how tail guns are meant to work in the real world ...
have it on permanent FAW?
It happened a lot when the Tempest first came out. I remember politely nudging a friend of mine to stop doing that. Even as a hardcore KDF player that I was, I couldn't stand seeing that Escort used like that. He had that sucker outfitted with BO3, APO, CRF. Typical, hard hitting Escort fare. He'd do an attack run with those forward weapons blazing, then on the turn around, he'd slow down and take like a damn minute firing that stupid rear dual cannon on the target instead of using those powerful forward weapons.
I'm sure you can dig up threads about that weapon when the Tempest came out. There were LOTS of people on this board thinking it would be the bestest thing evar. Because a Dual Cannon is stronger than a Turret!!!!! Technically it is but the narrow firing arc of a rear facing weapon on a nimble ship is pointless. A nimble ship like an Escort should be turning those forward weapons to the enemy. Whether you do the Park & Shoot or do actual strafing runs, you want the forward weapons smashing them.
And even if you turned the Tempest into a Beamboat, you're presenting Broadsides. That aft dual cannon is still useless.
We even had guys trying to say that it was a deterrent for Klingons chasing the Escort in PVP. That was the best one, IMO, because it's so ridiculously stupid. If I was chasing your Tempest down from behind and you want to keep the aft end of your ship pointed at me, I would be more than happy. Because while you're plinking away with some turrets, a KCB, maybe a Aft Beam Array, with that 1 plinky Dual Cannon, I'd have 4-5 heavy weapons from my front setup with a few aft weapons supporting TRIBBLE you from behind. All while the Tempest player is keeping his powerful forward weapons facing away from the enemy.
In all aspects of the game, PVE, PVP, the aft phaser dual cannon is just a complete fail.
More like Cannon:Scatter Volley.
Like previous posters have said, it is a bonus, and removing it will only return the ship to a 4/3 layout. The 4th aft slot for an escort is never going to happen. Yes, as others have said, it is a freebee you can just ignore if you choose not to use phasers. If you do use phasers.....