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marcel314
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Katana
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ushaan-tor
I remember that some andorian npcs use uhaan-tors.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_blade_weapons
D'k tahg exist already as emote and is used by klingon npcs.
Katana
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ushaan-tor
I remember that some andorian npcs use uhaan-tors.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_blade_weapons
D'k tahg exist already as emote and is used by klingon npcs.
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Not a Katana. It's a saber, and a ceremonial one at that, par for the course for military promotional image.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
Nuuuuu, it's a KATANA, the weapon with a blade made of steel that's been folded 10,000 times! And It can cut through TANKS! It's a weapon steeped in thousands of years of Japanese tradition that only people with extensive anime collections can understand. Also, it makes perfect sense that the image would have a KATANA on it. It's after all the traditional weapon of the Starfleet.
DAE think we should also have some Goku hair to go with that KATANA, which they'll be adding in the next patch?
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Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhh......how about they sort melee combat in general first before adding more weapons? I've yet to perry or deflect a bat'leth strike with the Tholian sword.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Since when is simple sarcasm an act of Trolling?
But now something productive: A big problem with the expansion of melee combat would be the lack of a... "Standard-Starfleet-Meleeweapon" (as far as I know something similar was never shown nor mentioned in any of the series...).
And even with just using in-game existing weapons, it would need a load of developement to create a halfway satisfying result...
In any case, yes please to more melee weapons.
The excuse is it would take too much effort to make new animations for new melee weapons..
I'd also like more melee weapons in the game though. Klingons have a vast collection of models in canon to choose from. That bladed weapon the Romulans used in JJ Trek is also something. I'd like some Cryptic creative license to create some Romulan styled melee weapons because their design team for Romulan assets has so far been top notch IMO. Vulcans were big on their swords back before the sundering after all.
As for starfleet? I suppose they could use some kind of bayonet mechanic, but that seems similar to the rifle butt we already have in function. I don't think this point really matters considering this game is so far from canon already. We have people flying around in biological ships from fluidic space which are meant to be symbiotic with their owner. We have Romulans walking around Qu'noS, and the commander in chief of all three Alpha quadrant superpowers is routinely sent on dangerous away missions.
Yes. Thank you.
Now that we're being serious, niche weapons like the katana probably wouldn't make much sense in STO. And like someone mentioned, it'd need a new animation set. The existing melee weapons in the game are in somewhat active use in their cultures of origin, so it makes sense to have them around.
If we want to have a melee weapon from Earth that's actually been shown onscreen, there's of course always the rapier.
Ushaan-tor could use melee/unarmed animations.
The MACO baton would be pretty sweet for Starfleet if we got the camis to go with it.
As well, allow for either dual-wielding (sword-sword or sword-pistol), especially if they don't want to change the animations (which are all single-handed animations), or two-handed grip for stronger attacks (stronger strikes at the loss of a ranged weapon; increased criticals, etc).
Truth is you know nothing about real Katana's and have bought into the mythos around them. Oh yeah I have 4 so yeah. Oh yeah ever hear of an Ulfbert? Bet you haven't and the steel unlike Katana's steel was only recently replicated and it was what is called crucible steel a steel that doesn't need to be hammered over and over to get the impurities out like the steel in Katanas is. You do know thats why it was folded and hammered right? The actual properties of the blade are from the tempering not the folding over and over. But you know that right?
Please no to more swords, If I want to play with middle age type gear I'll just log onto Neverwinter or WOW oopss GAG BARF... excuse me I just puked a little.
Seems like there's no way to lay sarcasm thick enough that there isn't someone still thicker around to miss it. :P
Yes, I know perfectly well that the Japanese swordsmiths had to fold the steel so much because they didn't have access to better quality steel. I was actually making fun of the "cult of katana" that makes some people demand their presence everywhere, whether it fits the subject matter or not.
Ulfberht swords aren't magic either, of course, and came about because the smith(s) had access to exceptionally high quality crucible steel, apparently from the Middle East. They're only exceptional compared to other swords of their time and place.
I think it looks more of this:
http://fearlessmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/swords-samurai-swords-steel-blade-m-japanese-warrior-series.jpg
than this:
http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/images/Product/large/500188.png
Then again there are different styles of all of it. It *could* be a napoleon one I suppose. It would make sense for it to be a ceremonial sword. However it would just be a tease, I actually came back just because of that image. Wanted to stealth around on foot then pop out and WHAM sword-slash! Can't even use a Bat'leth though because of the melee combat in it
And to think, they make it so nice looking too. Also, it's not that much work to add in melee. They already got melee in it, just need to balance it and possibly add a sword animation, but from what I see they already have a sword in it.
If only for officer uniforms for gala's and the like: if there is ONE! melee weapon that describes courage, honour, valor, then that is the katana.
The katana embodies the Bushi-Do, Way of the warrior.
There is no weapon in existence that comes even remotely close to the katana in that regard.
Aside, Klingons took the Bat'Leth up against the Feds, how would they react to a melee weapon?
Their pistols and rifles would not be much of a match, I reckon.
The katana has been superior to most, if not all other forms of swordlike weapons.
It could take a beating, and it could give a beating...
IMHO the Katana would've been Earths choice against melee weapons.
It's only logical!
Just faced a borg cube and get ordered to a weak wargame.
"Combat is a minor province in being a starship captain."
Yes this was before Wolf 359 but you did not see everyone walking around with phasers all the time afterward and them reissuing swords and putting people through combined arms drills. They stepped up then notched right back down the ship building.
Romulans and Klingons. Go to town. Give us gorn weapons: knives, pain sticks, show it was in canon and put it out there.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
The katana represents all factors that any Federation captain upholds.
There is a story of 2 samurai meeting one another halfway a very narrow bridge.
No space to pass one another, both draw their swords, and begin to wait for the other's action.
Hours later, neither had placed a strike, they still stood there, both in striking position.
They nodded towards one another, sheeted their sword, turned 180 degrees, and both went back, honouring the other, to the side of the bridge they came from...
The katana does not only represent war or battle, it represents so far more.
And just that would make the katana the choice for the human feds.
As for being the best sword in the world, Roman proved a small gladius was enough to take half the known world, and hold it for centuries. As long as it can kill someone, you don't need to fold it 1000times. But yeah, I grant you that to adorn a wall, a katana is nice. In movies to. Gladius ? Not so much.
Also, if I would have to take a melee weapons as weapon of choice, I'd pick a spear. The most used weapon in the world history, cheap and especially effective against armor and horses (or anything big). The only medieval weapon that is still in use in most armies. In case you wonder, what do you think you make when you put a bayonet at the end of a rifle ? Yep, that's a spear.
Quite frankly, in a multi species organization, I wouldn't expect everything to come from Earth. An Andorian or Vulcan melee weapon would make more sense in fact. As they still commonly use those. While we mostly put ours on the walls.
Anyway, if we have katana, I want ninja. They are every bit as cool as katanas. Section 31 ninjas. Now we're talking.
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As for a spear, true, but that's a not that handy thing to run around with.
A spear in close combat is also a very unhandy thing to have.
A gladius...
Considering that Roman weapon represents slavery, war, domination,and a lot more that is so not Fed?
I can see my Few running around with a gladius, for sure, but what does the gladius represent here?
YES!!!!
Think of Wolf 359!
Isn't the Federation all about Honour?
In a different way than Klingons, of course, still.
No Fed would cower back from a Cube, knowing he will likely (read: for sure) die engaging the cube.
Also, Jem'hadar polearms. Because those, too, are awesome.
And Klingon pain sticks. How are those totally absent from the game?
As to what weapons to add, any melee weapon not added from the series for a start. After that would be the time to think about anything else in my view.
Foldable, but a katana nonetheless!!!!
Which proves my statement, somewhat. XD
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Cheap shot, I know, I am just not at all a fan of her.
For me there was one real ST series: TNG.
Everything after just fell dead to me...
Poor attempts to get somewhere.
Again, to me, that is.