Then why not just use the fusion reactor to power the warp drive? You get more energy out of doing that than converting energy from the fusion reactor to antimatter to warp energy.
Because a fusion reactor doesn't have a high enough immediate output to power the warp coils. They could still be using the fusion reactor to power the cyclotron while the warp core was being used to power the warp coils, they would just be producing less antimatter than was being consumed, and would still eventually need some form of refueling.
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Getting to the root of the issue, it's because "antimatter" sounds cooler than "nuclear fusion", so the drive needs antimatter. What, you wanted a sound, consistent explanation for Star Trek physics??
1. They had a dilithium convertor, using one of those fusion reactors.
2. They never complained of an antimatter reserve problem... which had me wondering... because clearly they had to replace their torpedoes, which uses a good chunk of antimatter. Same with their shuttles.
3. They were often complaining about Deuterium reserves... which shouldn't be an issue as red dwarfs make those.
4. If we gotta reboot, we should reboot Voyager. That show had promise... but didn't do it because the writers never used a guidebook or looked back.
I loved SGU. It was... accurate. (well, it tried for it anywayS)
1: maybe
2: they did occasionally mention having a limited supply of antimatter. Deadlock is one occasion.
3: apparently they used a lot of it... maybe the warp core was only used for warp propulsion? thus elaving everything else to fusion power?
4: maybe. :P
you need a certain output, apparently in the gigawattage range to maintain the bubble... something fusion reactors cannot do.
Then just use capacitors to store the energy until it reaches the required energy levels. It is either spend a few days at rest producing antimatter while doing that every week and not going anywhere or alternating between travelling at warp and not travelling at warp. Using the ship's cyclotron to generate antimatter is just wasteful.
La-Forge said the warp Drive generates gigawattage... so... yeah, petawattage for a few hours of warp time? I don;t think it costs that much energy to sustain a bubble than it does to generate it.
I wonder how Voyager was able to run for as long as it did with no antimatter. I don't recall a single episode in Voyager where they had to trade for some Antimatter to fill up the Voyager's tanks. It is not like they can use the Bussard Collector to collect a significant amount of antimatter from space and it is extremely doubtful that Voyager carried 7 years worth of antimatter from the Alpha Quadrant.
Say what you want about SGU, but at least it is more realistic than Voyager ever was. Especially with the whole getting close to a star to recharge Destiny's energy.
Worffan and I solved that one in our offsite project The Mysterious Case of Neelix's Lungs by having the crew basically buying anti-hydrogen or having it gifted to them by friendly aliens like the Sikarians. I imagine the canon Voyager might have solved the problem much the same way -- the first season alone has three good candidates, the Banean homeworld, Sikaris, and Talax. The tail end of "The Cloud" (IIRC) mentions another Neelix knows whose name isn't given.
The TNG TM does say that starships have onboard antimatter generators (or at least the GCS does), but it's not very efficient and so only good for emergencies.
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Worffan and I solved that one in our offsite project The Mysterious Case of Neelix's Lungs by having the crew basically buying anti-hydrogen or having it gifted to them by friendly aliens like the Sikarians. I imagine the canon Voyager might have solved the problem much the same way -- the first season alone has three good candidates, the Banean homeworld, Sikaris, and Talax. The tail end of "The Cloud" (IIRC) mentions another Neelix knows whose name isn't given.
The TNG TM does say that starships have onboard antimatter generators (or at least the GCS does), but it's not very efficient and so only good for emergencies.
that's right. Larger ships should be able to generate it, but it's not effective.
Replicators simply assemble bio matter, reform the matrix like a transporter buffer in a combined form , However in order to make a steak you need the ingrediants to make a steak taste like a steak
you wont make a good steak with a pile of potatos or recycled waste it doesn't work that way
Replicators need the required raw materials to assemble the finished material be it a stembolt or a plate of lobster
you arnt making a plate of lobster out of a pile of metallic ore
No, they disassemble and reassemble matter at the subatomic level. So theoretically, Star Trek toilets probably collect waste matter, disassemble it or convert it to energy, and send it out someone's food replicator, reassembled as a plate of bacon and eggs.
Yummy.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
No, they disassemble and reassemble matter at the subatomic level. So theoretically, Star Trek toilets probably collect waste matter, disassemble it or convert it to energy, and send it out someone's food replicator, reassembled as a plate of bacon and eggs.
Yummy.
A question... that I'd ask in its own thread but it'd get locked...
do they use toilets? sea shells or minitransporters?
No, they disassemble and reassemble matter at the subatomic level. So theoretically, Star Trek toilets probably collect waste matter, disassemble it or convert it to energy, and send it out someone's food replicator, reassembled as a plate of bacon and eggs.
Yummy.
Look at 21st century water/waste processing. Everything that gets flushed or drained goes to waste management plants, which try to filter out everything (but admittedly not everything is filtered out). Then, the "water" is dumped back into lakes, where either we drink from it, or nature evaporates and rains the water onto plants and vegetation. We then eat that.
I'd take the matter disassociator over 21st century waste management ANY day.
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Because a fusion reactor doesn't have a high enough immediate output to power the warp coils. They could still be using the fusion reactor to power the cyclotron while the warp core was being used to power the warp coils, they would just be producing less antimatter than was being consumed, and would still eventually need some form of refueling.
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2: they did occasionally mention having a limited supply of antimatter. Deadlock is one occasion.
3: apparently they used a lot of it... maybe the warp core was only used for warp propulsion? thus elaving everything else to fusion power?
4: maybe. :P
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Then just use capacitors to store the energy until it reaches the required energy levels. It is either spend a few days at rest producing antimatter while doing that every week and not going anywhere or alternating between travelling at warp and not travelling at warp. Using the ship's cyclotron to generate antimatter is just wasteful.
La-Forge said the warp Drive generates gigawattage... so... yeah, petawattage for a few hours of warp time? I don;t think it costs that much energy to sustain a bubble than it does to generate it.
Worffan and I solved that one in our offsite project The Mysterious Case of Neelix's Lungs by having the crew basically buying anti-hydrogen or having it gifted to them by friendly aliens like the Sikarians. I imagine the canon Voyager might have solved the problem much the same way -- the first season alone has three good candidates, the Banean homeworld, Sikaris, and Talax. The tail end of "The Cloud" (IIRC) mentions another Neelix knows whose name isn't given.
The TNG TM does say that starships have onboard antimatter generators (or at least the GCS does), but it's not very efficient and so only good for emergencies.
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that's right. Larger ships should be able to generate it, but it's not effective.
I'm sure B'Elanna solved that problem though
No, they disassemble and reassemble matter at the subatomic level. So theoretically, Star Trek toilets probably collect waste matter, disassemble it or convert it to energy, and send it out someone's food replicator, reassembled as a plate of bacon and eggs.
Yummy.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
A question... that I'd ask in its own thread but it'd get locked...
do they use toilets? sea shells or minitransporters?
Look at 21st century water/waste processing. Everything that gets flushed or drained goes to waste management plants, which try to filter out everything (but admittedly not everything is filtered out). Then, the "water" is dumped back into lakes, where either we drink from it, or nature evaporates and rains the water onto plants and vegetation. We then eat that.
I'd take the matter disassociator over 21st century waste management ANY day.
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This question was answered on Breaking Bad. Transporter locks onto human waste and beams it into space. Going to the bathroom is so 21st Century.