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voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
This may be a strange question, but what Beam weapons are considered to be the best?
I see quite a bit of info, but I like to ask you, players, which beam banks you prefer...

Please add the info on how to obtain suggested beams.

Thank you.
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  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Antiproton. Problem solved.

    And if you go with all antiproton, then get both the Ancient Omni-Beam, and a crafted Omni-Beam.
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  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Thank you.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lindaleff wrote: »
    Antiproton. Problem solved.

    And if you go with all antiproton, then get both the Ancient Omni-Beam, and a crafted Omni-Beam.

    Only if you are using Dual-beam-banks, else go full-AP-Beams, not omnis. The Obelisk 2pc doesnt hold its own against 4xAMP+a real beam (which you would sacrifice for the ancient omnibeam).
  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,626 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Asked and answered, but between you and me.. Phasers will always be the best. :cool:
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    nynik wrote: »
    Asked and answered, but between you and me.. Phasers will always be the best. :cool:

    And depending of the ship they can be the best choice ;)
  • razar2380razar2380 Member Posts: 1,185 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    voivodje wrote: »
    This may be a strange question, but what Beam weapons are considered to be the best?
    I see quite a bit of info, but I like to ask you, players, which beam banks you prefer...

    Please add the info on how to obtain suggested beams.

    Thank you.



    It depends on what you are doing. If you are doing a drain build, then Polarons are much better. Also, some of the others are better for other types of builds. If you want to min/max, and get the best DPS, then it will be Antiprotons.

    When it comes to the 360 firing beams, it all depends on the ship, build, skills, and the player. Personally, if I am using Dual Beam Banks, and Beam FAW, I tend to stay away from them. The reason is because the FAW skill will have them hitting targets behind you also sometimes.

    I have used both the Ancient Omni, and the crafted 360 on forward facing DBB builds using FAW. Most of the time the skill was active, and there were targets behind me, they were hitting those enemies. This is a waste of shots that will pad DPS, but not help with kills. So, I usually go with turrets.

    All the rear weapons are really there for is to keep harassing the shields, while doing some damage to the target. No matter what you put on the back of the ship, if it is a forward facing build, then the weapons on the front are your heaviest hitters.

    If you are using Beam Arrays, and you also have torps on the ship, then I suggest putting the Ancient Omni, and possibly the 360 on the back, with the torp on the front. This will let the 360 beams still fire while you are getting an angle for the torps.

    If it is all BAs, then I suggest just running BAs, with no 360 because if you get ones with the right mods, they will be able to do more damage than the 360 weapons will.


    As for the way to get them, the Ancient is obtained by the episode "Sphere of Influence". The 360 omni beams are obtained by having high enough crafting level in beams, or off the exchange. (I will warn you, the prices on the exchange are extremely overpriced).

    For the Antiproton BAs, or DBBs, you can either craft them, buy them off the exchange, or from some missions as a reward. The best mod to get is CrtD, since these weapons don't have a proc, but instead give bonus damage anytime you get a crit with them.

    If you can't get all of them as CrtD, then I suggest getting as many as you can, and also looking for Pen, CrtH, or Over. These are really good substitutes for not having all CrtD.

    I hope that this helps you out some.

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  • millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    AP isn't as impressive as many claim it to be.

    In most builds, the extra CrtD of AP is outweighed by the value of certain set bonuses.

    Assuming the set bonuses aren't victims of Cryptic's fuzzy math.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    AP isn't as impressive as many claim it to be.

    In most builds, the extra CrtD of AP is outweighed by the value of certain set bonuses.

    Assuming the set bonuses aren't victims of Cryptic's fuzzy math.

    Of course set bonuses are victims of Cryptic's fuzzy math, don't kid yourself. Also, most sets are weapon+console, and most set weapons are CrtHx3 weapons, so there's also that to factor in.

    I would still lay claim to it being AP (unless you happen to be on a PER/FPER with the Saturation Bomb), but the difference is small enough to be insignificant.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    So far I had good luck with Phasers, Disruptors, Plasma, and APs. I would use any of those.
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  • shinnok918shinnok918 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lindaleff wrote: »
    Antiproton. Problem solved.

    And if you go with all antiproton, then get both the Ancient Omni-Beam, and a crafted Omni-Beam.

    and people say AP isn't OP'd. this proves it.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The Nukara deflector and engines 2 piece will also boost weapon damage as well by 2.5%.

    I run antiproton on my dyson with the obelisk core providing an extra damage boost to AP and 2 MK XIV fleet vulnability consoles for my beams and 1 vulnerability console for the AP boost

    not bad so far and ship performs very well with 3 Fleet AP beams, the crystalline torp, a KCB and the ancient omni Ap beam
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    • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
      edited March 2015
      shinnok918 wrote: »
      and People Say Ap Isn't Op'd. This Proves It.

      Omg Ap Gets One Unique Thing So Op Cryhptic Pls Nerfs Moar.
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    • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      Omg Ap Gets One Unique Thing So Op Cryhptic Pls Nerfs Moar.

      It actually gets two copies of the unique thing plus another unique thing, discounting the unique thing from this event.
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    • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
      edited March 2015
      It actually gets two copies of the unique thing plus another unique thing, discounting the unique thing from this event.

      Again, AP has all of what?

      A turret that works with FAW.

      A 2-set that works with said turret and a bad warp core.

      And a spirit bomb that's very much not worth a slot.

      Plasma, on the other hand, has:

      An actually decent reputation weapon.

      A 2-set that works with said decent reputation weapon and a console that's otherwise worth a slot already.

      And good variants.

      Disruptor has a 2-set that uses a turret and a console.

      It also has a dozen variants, a lot of which are good.

      Phaser has a 2-set that uses a turret and a console, and also happens to buff up a few rather strong consoles (Name any other weapon type that can get 60k dps out of one console and 10k out of a different one).

      Phaser also has good variants.

      Tetryon buffs tetryon cascade (Anyone else remember 10k dps tetryon cascades?), has a potentially useful 2-set, and, well, admittedly that's it.

      Polaron has 2 different useful 2-sets, and good variants.

      Combine that with AP's proc being less than a 3% difference over no proc in nearly every circumstance, and it's hard to call AP OP, just marginally better in some cases.
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    • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      Again, AP has all of what?

      You can run two of the ancient omnis, one upgraded, one mk infinity. It's a poorman's option but you'll have two free omnis that you can add the crafted one to.

      Prontonic polarons are also proc crits, though boosting protonic damage isn't as easy as boosting AP damage. Just about every other proc type is at a fixed 2.5% chance. With SROs and fleet locators it's easy to get your crit chance many times above 2.5% for a proc that's always useful.
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    • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
      edited March 2015
      You can run two of the ancient omnis, one upgraded, one mk infinity. It's a poorman's option but you'll have two free omnis that you can add the crafted one to.

      Prontonic polarons are also proc crits, though boosting protonic damage isn't as easy as boosting AP damage. Just about every other proc type is at a fixed 2.5% chance. With SROs and fleet locators it's easy to get your crit chance many times above 2.5% for a proc that's always useful.

      That first one is an exploit that I presume will be fixed with S10 and the forced conversion to dynamic items.

      As to prot pol, yeah, score points for polaron.
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    • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      That first one is an exploit that I presume will be fixed with S10 and the forced conversion to dynamic items.
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    • shandypandyshandypandy Member Posts: 632 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      And also:

      Yaaaaaay two 360 BA's with terrible mods.

      Why you'd want two of the cruddy things on owt but ONE build (DBB's), I do not understand.
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    • hojain2020hojain2020 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      Ive been running 5 romplas dual beam banks crit dx2 in front and KCB, exp romulan array and plasma 360 omni beam at rear. plus 5 epic fleet vul locators +plasma , leech, shield absorptive console and assorted consoles. My DPs dropped from about 50k to about 35 to 40 k after the plasma doping nerf sadly.
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    • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
      What about thoron infused polaron beam arrays MKXII Purle from the delta rep???
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    • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
      salvation4 wrote: »
      What about thoron infused polaron beam arrays MKXII Purle from the delta rep???

      What in the blue hell possesses people to do this?

      Why would you resurrect a thread from March 2015 instead of just making a new one?
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    • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
      what about Destabilizing tetryon
    • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
      If you want THE ANSWER, use Antiproton.

      If you find a weapon type with bonuses that work for your ship (say, there's a pretty awesome console), you can use it without asking the forum's permission.
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    • kontarnuskontarnus Member Posts: 289 Arc User
      This thread is 1.5 years old... why?
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    • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
      kontarnus wrote: »
      This thread is 1.5 years old... why?

      DANGIT, we all fell for the necro again...

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    • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
      I thought there was some extra stink in the forum today. Zombie thread.
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