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disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Federation Discussion
Do you think frigates should be added as a class of ship for mainly the feds? (kdf could have some too but bops are already kinda frigates anyway.)

I would see them as picket ships, with a reasonably flexible layout.

If I did a t6 version it would be

Koening class frigate.

Hull 35,000 - 38,500 with mastery
Shield mod 1.0
Weapons 3/3
Crew 150
Turn rate 15
Impulse mod .25
Inertia 65
Device slots 3
3/3/4 consoles
+5 power to all sub systems
Flanking
Can mount dual cannons
Sensor analysis
Command frequency engines

Mastery package frigate
Tier 1 10% hull
Tier 2 5% defense
Tier 3 10% damage
Tier 4 5% impulse speed and turn rate
Tier 5 trait strafing run. +30% damage -25 engine power for 15 seconds when entering red alert.on expiration +25 engine power.

Console long range passive sensor array. +10 to starship sensors, 10% accuracy. Active ability: Jamming screen 1 minute up time 2 minute cd 5k sphere. When you or a nearby ally are attacked apply jam sensors 1 to attacker can be applied once every 10 seconds per attacker.

Stations

Commander universal
Ltc eng/Intel
Lt tac/Intel
Lt sc
Lt eng

Console synergy
Long range passive sensors
Tachyon detection grid

2 piece bonus
2.5% chance to disable a subsystem
2.5% shield penetration
+10 to countermeasure systems.

From that you can infer the direction lower tier frigates can take.

How do you think frigates should be speced?
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  • gl2814egl2814e Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    A T6 Shikahr with those stats would be pretty great and satisfy those of us who don't want to be shoved into monster cruisers or teeny little Escorts...

    (Plus it hopefully wouldn't fall into the T5 TOS/ENT arguments that have been debated ad nauseam.)


    One change to make Frigates stand out maybe would be less of an Intel focus and more of a focus on the specialization powers as a whole. Maybe like universal-specialist seats that only slot specialist powers. As in LTC Intel/Command/Piloting & LT Intel/Command/Piloting, but no standard Red/Blue/Yellow powers in those slots. You'd still have the Universal Commander for build flexibility.

    Additionally maybe only a 11 or 12 for turn rate. 15 kind of makes it a lightly armed escort I'd think.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    edit: Misread.


    The Miranda is technically a Frigate, is it not?

    Seeing as Frigates are traditionally lightly armed, I don't really see a purpose for them in endgame.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Do you think frigates should be added as a class of ship for mainly the feds? (kdf could have some too but bops are already kinda frigates anyway.)

    I would see them as picket ships, with a reasonably flexible layout.

    If I did a t6 version it would be

    Koening class frigate.

    Hull 35,000 - 38,500 with mastery
    Shield mod 1.0
    Weapons 3/3
    Crew 150
    Turn rate 15
    Impulse mod .25
    Inertia 65
    Device slots 3
    3/3/4 consoles
    +5 power to all sub systems
    Flanking
    Can mount dual cannons
    Sensor analysis
    Command frequency engines

    Mastery package frigate
    Tier 1 10% hull
    Tier 2 5% defense
    Tier 3 10% damage
    Tier 4 5% impulse speed and turn rate
    Tier 5 trait strafing run. +30% damage -25 engine power for 15 seconds when entering red alert.on expiration +25 engine power.

    Console long range passive sensor array. +10 to starship sensors, 10% accuracy. Active ability: Jamming screen 1 minute up time 2 minute cd 5k sphere. When you or a nearby ally are attacked apply jam sensors 1 to attacker can be applied once every 10 seconds per attacker.

    Stations

    Commander universal
    Ltc eng/Intel
    Lt tac/Intel
    Lt sc
    Lt eng

    Console synergy
    Long range passive sensors
    Tachyon detection grid

    2 piece bonus
    2.5% chance to disable a subsystem
    2.5% shield penetration
    +10 to countermeasure systems.

    From that you can infer the direction lower tier frigates can take.

    How do you think frigates should be speced?

    The problem I have with CMDR Uni's is that 99% of the time, especially on a proposed 3+ tac console ship, its really saying "CMDR Tac". If it was a CMDR Pilot, that might be interesting. I understand what you were trying to do with the Tachyon Detecting Grid, but I thnk that should stay a sci ship thing. Maybe something that enhances the AOE of another ships grid would be more suitable. I also think the jammers is a bit over the top too.
  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The problem I have with CMDR Uni's is that 99% of the time, especially on a proposed 3+ tac console ship, its really saying "CMDR Tac". If it was a CMDR Pilot, that might be interesting. I understand what you were trying to do with the Tachyon Detecting Grid, but I thnk that should stay a sci ship thing. Maybe something that enhances the AOE of another ships grid would be more suitable. I also think the jammers is a bit over the top too.

    Eh the console thing is just because A) it isnt that great to begin with, and B) in canon mirandas had sensor modules that could be installed instead of the torpedo bar. altho they also got some neat turrets to go with them.

    The rest, including the universal cmdr, is because frigates historicaly are used as picket ships. scouting ahead of regular forces. In point of fact a destroyer escort is a frigate weight vessel.

    The defiant is also something that should be a frigate because of its size. I would also add the rhode islands into that class.

    Besides with only 6 weapons available(and only 3 of those foreward) even a taced out frigate isnt going to out do a true escort, so it isnt stepping on any toes.


    The proposed spec was also a baseline, i would imagine leaning it in either direction with the specializations wouldnt change it much. Intel just seemed more on point with what a frigate does.
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