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meimeitoo
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Yep, they majorly nerfed Surgical Strikes:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1405231
And far beyond removing the [Acc] for it.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1405231
And far beyond removing the [Acc] for it.
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Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Romulan players with a Risian Luxury Cruiser can reclaim the Soliton Wave Generator console from the Dilithium store.
how long before this goes to holodeck?
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
No, I'm saying a very small 1% minority of PvP-ers have been whining real loud; and Bort, always *extremely* biased towards PvP, gave them their way, as usual.
And 'brought it back in line with other powers.'?! Show me a DPS-breaking record, with people doing SS, instead of spamming BFAW, and we'll talk again!
I couldn't be bothered... to be going and posting parses or making videos anymore. Its to little to late they already destroyed the game with things like SS. Only slow folks would believe they don't on purpose release things they know are completely out of line to simply sell more stuff. They at some point have to fix it when everyone has bought in and they have something newer and shiner to sell. Its now intels time... this will go live in a week or two, and you will have new Season 10 broken stuffs to chase down so don't worry.
For the record the last time I bothered to parse (ok someone else happened to be parsing) in a T6 Warbird with SS3... I parsed around 65k. It was... and honestly likely still is way out of line.
Yes, that.
And with the ~30% or so nerf it will take (hit to CrtH + CrtD), Bort just nerfed Intel ships, as a whole, for that selfsame ~30%, as SS was the only thing they had going for them. Nerfed before we even got a Fleet version of it.
Admit it. Most of you reading this knew it would come eventually. Not to mention NPCs using this are coming soon........
And yet BFAW is still the one ring to rule them all and everybody seems perfectly fine with it. Also I love how they nerf Intel ships "after" the ship sale. These people have no shame.
Admit it... Bort knew this too, when he created Surgical Strikes! Or are you gonna sit here, with a straight face, telling me he hadn't figured out that +40% CrtH times X amount of CrtD would stack horribly?!
Welcome to 'Bait & Switch' Online, where they purposely entice you to buy OP stuff, only to allegedly find out, later on, that they need to take away your toy, and return it for a nerfed one!
Wallet is closed again.
Pretty much .
I remember the pride & joy some of us felt when "one of us" went to work @ Cryptic , as Jeremy , Thomas , Brandon , Smirk and Suricata all seemed like good folk . They no doubt still are ... (from personal experience) , however from a customer POV ... (and because I care about what happens to them) -- I kinda feel sorry for them .
I feel that way both because I have "been there , done dat" -- in terms of working for a highly criticized company (that had a desirable product) , and because (and this is just my opinion) -- STO has gone down on a very dark and irreparable path from the shiny optimistic days of it's debut , and I speaking for myself here , I would not like to be the one getting "shown the ropes" by ppl who have taken said game from where it was to where it is .
The moral / amoral sacrifice is too great ... , -- while I do understand the joys of working with "ppl like me" , as well as the joy of a paycheque .
And to take Bort as an example ... -- I just have to wonder what a convo between his 2011 self and todays self would sound like .
... watch the first 3 minutes and the goals of the show as stated 2 minutes in ...
The only thing that surprises me is how they do this ^ over and over and people *still* aren't getting the purposeful nature of it. Release some awesome, OP ship or ability then nerf the TRIBBLE out of stuff so people look at the new, op shiny ship/ability to purchase.
Command didnt work out so well since the ships are meh and the powers need buffed if anything. Its time for Intel to take the hits for the upcoming pilot skills/ships.
Its rinse and repeat with this stuff.
Indeed. Like I said, getting very tired of this 'Bait & Switch' ploy, where they purposely entice you to buy OP stuff, only to allegedly find out, later on, that they need to take away your toy, and return it for a nerfed one!
And, like I also said, I'm not buying, not for one minute, that the Devs, when designing SS, hadn't figured out, upfront, that +40% CrtH times X amount of CrtD would stack horribly. I'm but a very average player, yet even I *immediately* realized I could slap some fine Exploiters on my Phantom, and create a wicked CrtD build with it! And it was sold for that reason too, let's be honest.
And now they're nerfing Intel, severely (yet again, I should say; IT was the first to go after persistent PvP whine); and we didn't even get to enjoy Fleet Intel yet.
If you want to use Phantom with OSS3 as well, your main Intel attack will pretty much be SS3. So, thanks for nerfing that to hell. Perhaps you can still run Phantom with BFAW3, but then you need to self-nerf, taking OSS a notch down to Lt. level only. Or can you? Peeps in the Redshirt thread are already crying for a nerf to OSS as well (!). And that is how it will always be: totally jelly, people will keep crying until everyone has the same sh*tty equipment they have. And I don't even blame them. Rather, I blame the Devs for catering to them.
If all powers are subject to working withing "intended parameters", why have "special powers" anyhow?
If you guys want me to play in a specific way, just log in for me ffs.
More "Playing as Intended" nonsense.
Your anger is extremely misplaced. Why the PvP hate. If you think anything anyone in PvP land says means jack to the devs your living in your own special dream world. You also seem to understand this "nerf" which is really a balancing cause we all knew from day one as you have said that it was broken. You also seem to understand it was released that way by devs that knew exactly what they where doing. So why the hate for other players for pointing out the emperor is au natural.
Also lets be 100% honest while where at it... OSS is another abomination that has had a good hand in destroying balance in this game. There not the only things of course. Cryptic does it every time they release something. The bugs, the crazy powerful skills, items, boffs, doffs, whatever nots... are all designed to be OP before they hit there best before date. The best before date is 1-2 weeks before the next shipment of milk... err I mean OP toys. Once those are on the shelves for the kidz to buy what is already in there fridge needs to go bad.
Channel your anger... don't hate your fellow suckers for yelling about the bad batch of Seneca oil we have all been sold, hate the SnakeOil peddler.
SS needs to be in line with rapid fire and FAW in a single target scenario.
SS out did both by hilarious margins.
The nerf is justified.
yeah he needs to go back and listen to himself at the 5 min mark
All part of the Cryptic patented Sell/Wait/Nerf method of making money....
Exactly. This is a consistent pattern as part of Cryptic's business model. That was my exact point.
Incidentally, so why are you blaming PvPers again?
You did not buy Surgical Strikes you bought a ship with access to Intel powers.
There is only one place to put it. Greedy developer...
If your reading this and you have never played another MMO... go and find one you might like, and read there Forums and Patch notes for awhile. You will find there is always some people that are hard to please and like to QQ. However you will also NOT find another MMO Developer in the world that has the issue Cryptic does. The issue is this... almost everything they release is either 1) bugged or 2) overpowered. They are reported in the "BUG REPORT" section almost the day they are released, the reports are clearly ignored for months and sometimes longer. When they are fixed Cryptic acts shocked like its the first they hear of something being broken 8 months after it was released. They then fix it.... and this always seems to be a week or two before a major release with more Stuff$ for people to buy.
Seriously go though the Cryptic Release notes and notice that all the major bug fixes / "nerf" balance changes happen 1-2 weeks before a major patch. The only stuff that gets fixed as soon as its released are bugged missions ect that either don't make them $ or cost them potential $ in some way. If it sells stuff it will be staying until the next sales driving bug is ready to be released.
Anyway.. bottom line don't be blaming other players on any of this stuff. No where to point fingers accept at the greediest/shadiest gaming company in the industry.
And that folks is why Cryptic is able to continue making $. lmao
Just because Cryptic are bad at balancing things, does not mean there is some kind of evil plot to scam players out of their money. :rolleyes:
And a nerf to Surgical Strikes hardly makes Intel ships useless, nor is it different from nerfs of any other gear and powers that overperformed over the years.
Ah, but it is possible.
It doesn't have to be an evil plot, but scamming people out of their money is the point of practically all businesses - and they plan to do it, so it's most probably a plot to 'scam' players out of their money. :P