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Say something positive about: the Miranda class

ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Ten Forward
You heard me. Say something positive about the Miranda class.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ambassadormolari wrote: »
    You heard me. Say something positive about the Miranda class.
    Um... they're cute?
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They look good when they blow up, doesn't matter if it's from Dominion, Borg, or Constitution fire.
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They have patronage that makes the USAF's 'Bomber Mafia' look like a poorly written fan petition in terms of political support, apparently.


    They were the first Starfleet design seen not of the Constitution class, so they're important for that out of universe.

    Also, they're clearly the design lineage for the Nebula class, one of my favorite designs.

    Also they're apparently a very worthwhile low-cost design, even if not suited for high-intensity combat operations, there's plenty of other things Starfleet does.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The most believable Federation ship model ever made, all others are absurd
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ^ Except for the Excelsior. So, shame on you. :P

    Ultimately though, the ship does make sense from a design perspective IMO too.

    I wish I didn't trash mine by mistake :(
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ambassadormolari wrote: »
    You heard me. Say something positive about the Miranda class.

    They're good for their purpose, which is to be disposable cannon fodder.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    The Sisko was assigned to one.
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  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Khan Noonien Singh didn't seem to mind the design.
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Easy to hijack.
  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    cptjhunter wrote: »
    Easy to hijack.

    Ooh! Command systems so well integrated, even an ensign can successfully command one against the Borg! :)
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  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It kicked the TRIBBLE out of the Enterprise.


    And it has a rollbar. How many spaceships do you see with a freaking rollbar?
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    grylak wrote: »
    It kicked the TRIBBLE out of the Enterprise.


    And it has a rollbar. How many spaceships do you see with a freaking rollbar?
    Only because Jim Kirk was carrying the Idiot Ball.

    And yes, a rollbar on your starship is very important. During a rollover maneuver, you wouldn't want to... hit your head... on the bottom of, um, space... you know something, that doesn't really make sense, does it? ;)
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    One of my favorite ship designs. For its time, it was simple, sleek and compact. No weird hulls, had cool nacelles, and proved to be an equal to the Constitution Class. Also like how the dish converts from a circle into this blocky hull. If I was stuck in one of these for the rest of the game, I wouldn't mind.

    Well...maybe a little. I'm pretty sure I would spend everyday looking out my ready room; looking at Galaxies, Nebulas, Novas, Auroras, Zephyrs, Steamrunners; and say to myself, "Man how I wish I could command those glorious vessels."
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    Only because Jim Kirk was carrying the Idiot Ball.

    and he would know, how? kirk acted within the regulations, khan played his cards right, if it were not for some dirty trick kirk played with the command codes, the miranda would of won the fight without any real battle damage. the connie was also well behind the times at this point. the miranda was most certainly a match for the connie, unfortunately that day the plot armour was strong with the enterprise, as was the force :P.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    and he would know, how?
    Because Lt. Saavik tried to remind him of the relevant regulation (of which he claimed to be well aware). And got slapped down for it.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    Because Lt. Saavik tried to remind him of the relevant regulation (of which he claimed to be well aware). And got slapped down for it.

    Thus continuing the long tradition of the sensible boff telling their maverick captain "don't do the dumb thing" and the captain going, "I'm doing the thing," with the logical result.
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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Because otherwise we'd have no movie/episode!

    I admit to a fondness to the ol' girl(s) myself. Not the equal of the Connie refit, but the first real alternative and a nice design in their own right. Relegated to the mook role by later shows, but still there in the fight, taking hits so the heroes don't.
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  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    ^ Except for the Excelsior. So, shame on you. :P

    Ultimately though, the ship does make sense from a design perspective IMO too.

    I wish I didn't trash mine by mistake :(



    Cheer up! You can get it back from shipyard requsitions for 8,000 Dilithium. :)
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They are the epitome of Hell, but inside them is a sweet spot, a 'heart' if you will. To quote Kahn: "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee!"
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    There's a lot of them.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    Because Lt. Saavik tried to remind him of the relevant regulation (of which he claimed to be well aware). And got slapped down for it.

    as i recall kirk never had the chance to answer that himself, but rather spock slapped her down for her suggestion. right after this kirk was trying to figure out what is going on with the reliant's communications, but he gave himself some time to think on it.

    your logic would suggest he didnt even attempt it or acknowledge the regulation quoted to him, when he did.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    your logic would suggest he didnt even attempt it or acknowledge the regulation quoted to him, when he did.
    Then why didn't he obey regulations, and raise shields? It's not like it was the very first time a starship had been suborned. Hell, it wasn't the first time a starship had been suborned by Khan! And General Orders are there for a reason. After it was all said and done, Kirk should have been charged with failure to obey a standing order, and been held responsible due to negligence for every death in that encounter.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited March 2015
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    and he would know, how? kirk acted within the regulations, khan played his cards right, if it were not for some dirty trick kirk played with the command codes, the miranda would of won the fight without any real battle damage. the connie was also well behind the times at this point. the miranda was most certainly a match for the connie, unfortunately that day the plot armour was strong with the enterprise, as was the force :P.

    I don't know what hat you pulled this rabbit out of but the Reliant class / STO Miranda had around 3/4 of the firepower of the Enterprise class / STO Exeter

    As far as weapons Technology on the ships they were Equal they both used the same phaser and torpedo type's

    anyway on of my most favorite star trek films loved it and still do
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Seeing as it's still in service it can't be all bad.

    Ah! Brainwave!

    I don't play MOBA's but I do watch a bit of Heroes of the Storm on YT. Recently they released a character called the 'Lost Vikings'. They are actually 3 characters you micromanage at the same time, weaker individually but can work together to great effect.

    Wouldn't it be sweet if STO had a similar system. Instead of endgame versions of lower tiered ships just have a couple of wingmen flying the same ship to assist you like pets from a carrier.

    It would never happen, just to be clear I know this, it would be cool though :)
  • mjarbarmjarbar Member Posts: 2,084 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    coupaholic wrote: »
    Seeing as it's still in service it can't be all bad.


    Wouldn't it be sweet if STO had a similar system. Instead of endgame versions of lower tiered ships just have a couple of wingmen flying the same ship to assist you like pets from a carrier.

    It would never happen, just to be clear I know this, it would be cool though :)

    Seeing as you already have a varible number of boffs follwing you around on ground maps, I don't see why you cant have a couple of Miranda's (commanded by your long overdue for promotion to captain boffs) as well on the space maps, operated like hanger pets. The mechanisms are already programmed into the game, they just need to be made to work together if the game devs see this as a worthwhile thing to do.

    Back on topic, the Miranda coass has proven to be the work horse of Starfleet doing all the jobs that the rest of the fleet either are not suited to do or are too important to do. So without the Miranda class there wouldn't be a fleet or possibly a Federation!
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