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server down 5 minutes early? why?

jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
why take server down 5 minutes early?

also launcher shows a 4.5 hour downtime. and twitter a 3.5 hour downtime. and patch notes show a 4 hour downtime.?!?

does no one care anymore ?
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited March 2015
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  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest with you here. If you're upset that a video game came down 5 minutes early for maintenance, I really, really think you need to step away from the computer for a good long while.

    not the point.

    upset that people cannot do what they say they are going to do.
    the lack of consistency is the issue.
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  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    TBH: I find a 4 hour downtime a lot.
    But I guess, there's no alternative.

    Game comapnies ahould have 2 servers: one active, one prepped, so we do not "have to wait forever to log in" and wind down from a hard day. XD
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    voivodje wrote: »
    TBH: I find a 4 hour downtime a lot.
    But I guess, there's no alternative.

    Game comapnies ahould have 2 servers: one active, one prepped, so we do not "have to wait forever to log in" and wind down from a hard day. XD

    not just the "4 hour downtime". they have issued 3 different ETRs
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    voivodje wrote: »
    TBH: I find a 4 hour downtime a lot.
    But I guess, there's no alternative.

    Game comapnies ahould have 2 servers: one active, one prepped, so we do not "have to wait forever to log in" and wind down from a hard day. XD
    Except that all your data is stored on the Server. Thus they would need to copy everything over from Server A to Server B before you could use it from where you left off - and copying that over would take a couple of hours. :)

    If you just want to play and do not care about characters you can always just play on Tribble while the Holodeck is down.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jst455 wrote: »
    why take server down 5 minutes early?

    also launcher shows a 4.5 hour downtime. and twitter a 3.5 hour downtime. and patch notes show a 4 hour downtime.?!?

    does no one care anymore ?


    Psstt.. over here! I'll let you in on a little secret... if it starts 5 minutes earlier, then it's done 5 minutes earlier. ;)
    3lsZz0w.jpg
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest with you here. If you're upset that a video game came down 5 minutes early for maintenance, I really, really think you need to step away from the computer for a good long while.
    Well... I, for one, was running around like a madman getting the kids off to school, etc, so I could get a quick CCA run in before the servers went down, since I won't be able to get on again 'til this evening, which will mess with my 20-hour cooldown for the next day... and the next day... Needless to say, the server coming down early cut that run short. Had I known ahead of time, I might have had a much more enjoyable morning, not bustling around quite so much. So, while I agree, getting truly upset should be a red flag, I completely hear what the OP is saying.

    I was resigned to the fact that the typical hour+ I have on Thursday AM was already eaten up by the servers going down an hour earlier than the typical 7 am Pacific.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,536 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Sometimes, showing up on the forums in the morning on a Thursday when the patch is running is like walking into a neonatal ward at the hospital... All the crying over nothing...

    :rolleyes:
    CM
    "Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    bergins wrote: »
    I was resigned to the fact that the typical hour+ I have on Thursday AM was already eaten up by the servers going down an hour earlier than the typical 7 am Pacific.

    It is 7 AM Pacific... :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jst455 wrote: »
    why take server down 5 minutes early?

    also launcher shows a 4.5 hour downtime. and twitter a 3.5 hour downtime. and patch notes show a 4 hour downtime.?!?

    It was less than 5min. I got the 5min warning, stayed on for at least 2 more min to finish what I was doing, then logged myself off. That's not a big deal, really.

    As for the time discrepancy - eh, it's always an estimate. It's kinda funny that each source shows a different estimate, but at least no source is showing the regular 2.5hrs while others are show more. Aim for 4hrs, and just watch the Twitter.
    bergins wrote: »
    I was resigned to the fact that the typical hour+ I have on Thursday AM was already eaten up by the servers going down an hour earlier than the typical 7 am Pacific.

    Daylight savings time over the weekend. It went down when it was supposed to according to the new local time.
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Except that all your data is stored on the Server. Thus they would need to copy everything over from Server A to Server B before you could use it from where you left off - and copying that over would take a couple of hours. :)

    If you just want to play and do not care about characters you can always just play on Tribble while the Holodeck is down.
    Data Real time Mirroring. XD
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    It is 7 AM Pacific... :)
    Oh?
    pwecaptainsmirk wrote: »
    Greetings Captains!

    We will be performing this week's scheduled maintenance tomorrow, March 12th, at 6AM Pacific. Downtime is estimated is 4 hours, and patch notes can be found here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/sta...h-12th%2C-2015
    ..and I got booted ~ 5:55 Pacific, soo...
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    bergins wrote: »
    Oh?..and I got booted ~ 5:55 Pacific, soo...
    I do not know what time it went down. I have not updated in months. I assumed that the OP did not make a thread about it an hour after the fact, thus I assumed it went down at 6:55 AM Pacific.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I do not know what time it went down. I have not updated in months. I assumed that the OP did not make a thread about it an hour after the fact, thus I assumed it went down at 6:55 AM Pacific.
    Well, they started the thread at 12 mins to the hour, so they were either 50+ mins stewing about it first, or went back in time ~10 mins to try and convince them not to shut down the server early...
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Psstt.. over here! I'll let you in on a little secret... if it starts 5 minutes earlier, then it's done 5 minutes earlier. ;)


    lmao.
    there are 3 different repair estimates. and earlier start is guarantee of nothing.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jst455 wrote: »
    lmao.
    there are 3 different repair estimates. and earlier start is guarantee of nothing.

    Sure it is. :) It's a 100% guarantee that, however long it takes them, it will now be finished 5 minutes earlier.
    3lsZz0w.jpg
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    But it is the point. Seriously man, do yourself a favor and step away from the computer for a good long while.

    you are a mega troll.
    it is the point.

    apparently the people who run the game do not care to do what they say. nor post the same repair times...they posted 3 different times
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  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    chipg7 wrote: »
    It was less than 5min. I got the 5min warning, stayed on for at least 2 more min to finish what I was doing, then logged myself off. That's not a big deal, really.

    As for the time discrepancy - eh, it's always an estimate. It's kinda funny that each source shows a different estimate, but at least no source is showing the regular 2.5hrs while others are show more. Aim for 4hrs, and just watch the Twitter.



    Daylight savings time over the weekend. It went down when it was supposed to according to the new local time.

    i got kicked at 5 minutes. no warning
    could not rejoin
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  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Sure it is. :) It's a 100% guarantee that, however long it takes them, it will now be finished 5 minutes earlier.

    that is not logical. they could encounter errors, take a lunch break, have an emergency of some sort. just because they started early does NOT mean they will complete early
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jst455 wrote: »
    that is not logical. they could encounter errors, take a lunch break, have an emergency of some sort. just because they started early does NOT mean they will complete early

    You're still not getting it. :) I didn't say they'll finish 5 minutes early, but only that it's a 100% guarantee that, however long it takes them, it will now be finished 5 minutes earlier -- lunch breaks and what not included.
    3lsZz0w.jpg
  • roadghostroadghost Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Wow... just wow.
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    You're still not getting it. :) I didn't say they'll finish 5 minutes early, but only that it's a 100% guarantee that, however long it takes them, it will now be finished 5 minutes earlier -- lunch breaks and what not included.

    you're not "getting it". you continue to say that it will now take less time by 5 minutes.
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  • roadghostroadghost Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Hey it's back up so you can get that 5 minutes now. Enjoy
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    roadghost wrote: »
    Hey it's back up so you can get that 5 minutes now. Enjoy


    cool!
    thx for update :)

    I will see the troll show next thursday... same bat time, same bat channel.....
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  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Pvpers found those five minutes to be overpowered, so they were nerfed.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jst455 wrote: »
    why take server down 5 minutes early?

    also launcher shows a 4.5 hour downtime. and twitter a 3.5 hour downtime. and patch notes show a 4 hour downtime.?!?

    does no one care anymore ?

    OP, which clock were you going off of? The STO clock, your computer clock? Cell phone? Personal watch? It's all relative you know. There was probably a dev chilling at the servers going by his own personal watch. They maybe, just maybe, might not be 100% synced up. Now before this causes you to rage and whine about your precious 5 minutes, you can sit back and realize that 5 minutes is nothing. It's really, really nothing to complain about.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    salazarraze wrote: »
    OP, which clock were you going off of? The STO clock, your computer clock? Cell phone? Personal watch? It's all relative you know. There was probably a dev chilling at the servers going by his own personal watch. They maybe, just maybe, might not be 100% synced up. Now before this causes you to rage and whine about your precious 5 minutes, you can sit back and realize that 5 minutes is nothing. It's really, really nothing to complain about.

    in game clock...if they cannot use their own time then they are doing it wrong. also they posted 3 different ETRs....3.5, 4. , and 4.5 hrs.
    the lack of attention to detail is what hurts.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest with you here. If you're upset that a video game came down 5 minutes early for maintenance, I really, really think you need to step away from the computer for a good long while.

    I have to second this.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • jst455jst455 Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    salazarraze wrote: »
    I have to second this.

    ok. you are officially the 2nd troll to the post.
    grats


    and that isnt the issue. the issue is the lack of attention to detail.

    5 minutes early and they published 3 different ETRs
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