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Structure of Vaadwaur Bridge

robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I have a few concerns about this bridge. There are many support beams in the ship that make it look like it should be okay.

http://i.imgur.com/JAJuHWN.jpg

However it also feels like if any pressure is applied to the hull that the ship is designed to collapse and squish the captain.

http://i.imgur.com/vs2q2KE.jpg

The helm looks safer since the two support beams meet in the middle. The captains chair is in the squish zone. I do not feel safe flying it.
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  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Hmmm, this is indeed most intriguing.

    But your concerns may be very well be for nothing, I say. Since you start from the assumtion that those are support beams. They may be very well high volume data cables and power source cables bundle up in one big conduit, since if you notice, they are "linked" in some way or another to a monitor/station or have one nearby.
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I cannot see them being used as conduit. The way they connect to the others are bolted rather then a simple t styled connection. The bolt in a t would reduce the capacity of the conduit.

    http://i.imgur.com/2He3Mg4.jpg

    This is why I feel like they are support beams. With a hydraulic shock feel.
    http://i.imgur.com/g0v2kDG.jpg

    Edit:
    http://i.imgur.com/23rAex1.png
  • stohenrikstohenrik Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Well, if they're power cables it's even worse.. Those blow up whenever you hit a bit of space dust after all :cool:
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    robdmc wrote: »
    This is why I feel like they are support beams. With a hydraulic shock feel.
    http://i.imgur.com/g0v2kDG.jpg

    I agree with the hydraulic shock thingy.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    robdmc wrote: »
    I cannot see them being used as conduit. The way they connect to the others are bolted rather then a simple t styled connection. The bolt in a t would reduce the capacity of the conduit.

    http://i.imgur.com/2He3Mg4.jpg

    This is why I feel like they are support beams. With a hydraulic shock feel.
    http://i.imgur.com/g0v2kDG.jpg

    Edit:
    http://i.imgur.com/23rAex1.png

    I believe you're right, but you have to realize:
    1) If those were ever to reach a point where they could endanger the Captain sitting in the chair, you've probably got a GIANT HULL BREACH to worry about that would probably have killed everyone on the bridge anyway.
    2) The Vaadwaur who built these ships probably didn't care. They had to make a few safety sacrifices to make they're ships competitive with the rest of the quadrant.
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    Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    robdmc wrote: »
    I cannot see them being used as conduit. The way they connect to the others are bolted rather then a simple t styled connection. The bolt in a t would reduce the capacity of the conduit.

    http://i.imgur.com/2He3Mg4.jpg

    This is why I feel like they are support beams. With a hydraulic shock feel.
    http://i.imgur.com/g0v2kDG.jpg

    Edit:
    http://i.imgur.com/23rAex1.png

    Thats some compelling evidence that indeed shows they may be not cable conduits.

    I raise you another hypothesis: they are indeed hydraulic in nature, but not for suport. There were built in mind with the Astika battlecruiser, wich has this "assault mode" thingy that "transforms" the ship a bit. Those beams one could speculate are part of that mechanism, whatever are to support the shock (both from transformation and/or from that shockwave from the end of it), or to "duck" the bridge. We dont know for sure where this bridge is, but its logical to assume that upon going into assault mode, the bridge could get "down" into lower deck lvls to be protected for a fearce battle ahead. I mean, one could not know when you could have a case of a mad clone captain in a reman scimitar who tries to make a hole in your bridge:rolleyes:. That could totaly happen :P
    This feature would be somewhat like in Star Gate Univers show, on their ship the bridge had a "sticking out" mode. While here could be the opposite.

    Alas, if thats not the case, there is the answer to all questions, at least in STO: Its the Iconians :P Since they helped build these things...
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mosul33 wrote: »
    There were built in mind with the Astika battlecruiser, wich has this "assault mode" thingy that "transforms" the ship a bit. Those beams one could speculate are part of that mechanism, whatever are to support the shock (both from transformation and/or from that shockwave from the end of it), or to "duck" the bridge.

    Okay I'll go along with this to a point. When I look at the [Console - Universal - Assault Mode Relays] there are a few things that could support that. Mainly the change in turn rate. But to me that would be more of an atmospheric change. Maneuvering in space has no friction. A physical change would not account for the change in ability. A change in power subsystems sure.
    kjwashington wrote: »
    I believe you're right, but you have to realize:
    1) If those were ever to reach a point where they could endanger the Captain sitting in the chair, you've probably got a GIANT HULL BREACH to worry about that would probably have killed everyone on the bridge anyway.
    2) The Vaadwaur who built these ships probably didn't care. They had to make a few safety sacrifices to make they're ships competitive with the rest of the quadrant.

    Granted if the captain gets squished the hull would be ruined. But wouldn't have taken less effort to raise the command platform by 5 feet and have the support structure meet? That would increase durability and you would have to have a bunch of short piece tied in together.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    robdmc wrote: »
    I have a few concerns about this bridge. There are many support beams in the ship that make it look like it should be okay.

    http://i.imgur.com/JAJuHWN.jpg

    However it also feels like if any pressure is applied to the hull that the ship is designed to collapse and squish the captain.
    Which would be the appropriate reward for his failures.
    robdmc wrote: »
    Okay I'll go along with this to a point. When I look at the [Console - Universal - Assault Mode Relays] there are a few things that could support that. Mainly the change in turn rate. But to me that would be more of an atmospheric change. Maneuvering in space has no friction. A physical change would not account for the change in ability. A change in power subsystems sure.
    The subspace field used to enable the high sublight speeds of these massive shields can be configured differently in the other shape, thus allowing better manoeuvrability.

    Mustrum "Haven't you attended Technobabble 101 at the Academy?" Ridcully
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If they are physical support beams then they fail miserably at that job for so many reasons. But if they are something else, or work on some other principle, then they could be quite fine at what they do.

    However, the key point to remember is this interior was not designed by an engineer, but by an artist (like much of Star Trek). Don't put more thought into it than that.
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