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Fun What-if: Re-Cast Star Trek Voyager

drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
edited March 2015 in Ten Forward
Someone brought up a Voyager reboot today on Twitter, just as a fun what-if. In talking about it, I decided to try and think "who would I cast in each part if I was making Voyager today."

It wasn't entirely an easy exercise. I got stuck on Harry Kim, so I gender flipped the part (cause that's what all the cool kids do these days).

Here's what I came up with.

Kathryn Janeway - Keri Russell
Chakotay - Adam Beach
Tom Paris - Jai Courtney
B'Lanna Torres - Sonequa Martin-Green
Harriet “Harry” Kim - Hettienne Park
Neelix - Bob Odenkirk
Kes - Emily Kinney
The Doctor - Clark Gregg
Tuvok - Jamie Hector
7 of 9 - Anna Torv

So, fellow Trek fans, what do you think of my list, and who would be on yours?
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Who I would cast if I actually wanted a good show:

    Producer: Ronald D. Moore.
    EP: Ira Steven Behr.
    Captain Janeway: Dame Judi Dench.
    Chakotay (ethnic Sioux): Russel Means.
    Tuvok: Tim Russ.
    EMH: Robert Picardo.
    ...actually, the rest of the canon cast could do just fine with decent directing and scripts.

    Who I would cast today:

    Janeway of Borg, AKA Kathryn "Let's commit genocide today!" Janeway: David Tennant in drag.
    Chief Religious Experience Officer and Supreme Racist Stereotype Chakotay: A fake totem pole.
    Tuvok: Tim Russ.
    Emergency Command Hologram, Best Character On The Show: Robert Picardo.
    Tom "Ibid" Paris, omnicompetent genius commando fighter pilot medic engineer diplomat general: Benedict Cumberbatch.
    Ensign Harry "Dutch Elm Disease" Kim, AKA Poor Dumb Harry: Sean Bean.
    TRIBBLE of Borg: Whichever popular Playboy model with oversized implants is the "it" girl this week.
    Fairy Princess Kes: Eh, Jennifer Lien was fine, she'd still be fine.
    Torres the Wrathful: Melissa McCarthy.
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  • lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Janeway: Katie Holmes (or is she too young? if so then Cate Blanchett)
    Chakotay: Henry from Longmire (I dont know the dudes name)
    7 of 9: Natalie Portman
    Tom Paris: Chris Pratt
    B'lanna Torres: Scarlet Johansson
    Harry Kim: Chris Evans
    Tuvok: Tim Russ
    Neelix: The most annoying actor still alive
    EMH: Robert Picardo

    A TNG reboot

    Picard: Patrick Stewart (still looks the same)
    Riker: Hugh Jackman (too badass?)
    Troi: Anne Hathaway
    Data: Chris Pine (thats what he gets for being Kirk in jjtrek)
    La Forge:
    Beverly:
    Wesley: Joseph Gorden-Levitt

    A DS9 reboot

    Sisko: Samuel L Jackson (or Denzel Washington)
    Kira: Karen Gillian
    Bashir: David Tennant
    O'Brian: Point me in the direction of a good Irish actor
    Dax: Kristan Stewart
    Sisko's dad: Morgan Freeman
    Garak: John Barrowman
    Jake Sisko: not Jaden Smith
    Odo: Liam Neeson
    Quark: dunno
    Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited March 2015
    Lou Diamond Phillips is the name you're looking for.
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  • alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    William Shatner in every role.
    Johnny Depp in every role.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,478 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You forgot the most important recasting of all. Without this, it doesn't matter who's in what role, the show's still going to suck.

    Executive Producer: Ira Steven Behr

    Producer: Ronald D. Moore
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  • lessley00lessley00 Member Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    You forgot the most important recasting of all. Without this, it doesn't matter who's in what role, the show's still going to suck.

    Executive Producer: Ira Steven Behr

    Producer: Ronald D. Moore

    And these people are?...
    Captain Joseph Riker, U.S.S. Odyssey==General V'Mar, U.S.S. Blackwater-A==Admiral Laura Holmes, U.S.S. Forward Unto Dawn
    Grand Master Thotok, son of Koloth, I.K.S. Sompek==Dahar Master Shanara, I.K.S. Balth'Quv
    Admiral R'Tath V'Tirex, R.R.W. Dhael Glohha'enh==Commander Ta'eth Korval, R.R.W Hachae ch'Rhian==Admiral Vranuk, R.R.W Delevhas
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited March 2015
    lessley00 wrote: »
    And these people are?...

    Two of the people who made Star Trek great.
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Nah, it was the scripts that killed the show. Jerri Taylor was the helmsman of the show, the other guys were taking paychecks for the most part. Ron and Ira were responisble for DS9, which was a fantastic show. Even more important, they kind of took the reigns in season 3 of TNG, which was when the show took off.

    Anyway, recasting the show won't fix the garbage scripts. Honestly, I think the Voyager cast did a great job with the steaming pile of TRIBBLE handed to them. So I wouldn't recast anyone.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    alexmakepeace wrote: »
    Johnny Depp in every role.

    Eddie Murphy in every role.
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The cast of NCIS in every role.
    I need a beer.

  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Who I would cast today:

    Janeway of Borg, AKA Kathryn "Let's commit genocide today!" Janeway: David Tennant in drag.
    Chief Religious Experience Officer and Supreme Racist Stereotype Chakotay: A fake totem pole.
    Tuvok: Tim Russ.
    Emergency Command Hologram, Best Character On The Show: Robert Picardo.
    Tom "Ibid" Paris, omnicompetent genius commando fighter pilot medic engineer diplomat general: Benedict Cumberbatch.
    Ensign Harry "Dutch Elm Disease" Kim, AKA Poor Dumb Harry: Sean Bean.
    TRIBBLE of Borg: Whichever popular Playboy model with oversized implants is the "it" girl this week.
    Fairy Princess Kes: Eh, Jennifer Lien was fine, she'd still be fine.
    Torres the Wrathful: Melissa McCarthy.
    Der Schei
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    organicmanfred wrote: »
    someone didnt have his orangejuice today...

    If I may correct you here Puhbert: It would be called Scheisskopf. The e is left out.

    Sorry, lovely; having a bad grammar day. :(
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited March 2015
    Replace the entire cast of ST:Voyager with the entire cast of...drum roll-ching!

    GLEE!


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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Sorry, lovely; having a bad grammar day. :(

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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Voyager should never be recast, revisited, or reimagined. It should be buried with a shovel, and then go ahead and bury said shovel. Seriously, it should be stricken from canon, it was that bad.

    Not as bad as Enterprise...
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Not as bad as Enterprise...

    Win. :D

    If anything should get struck from canon... and I already have, in my mind.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    In terms of the OP:

    I'd rethink some aspects of the characters, first. That means I wouldn't be cheap, and I'd name Tom Paris "Nick Lacarno." That also means I wouldn't make Chuckles a walking (borderline offensive) stereotype of Native Americans. And, this also means that I'd either cast John Billingsley as Neelix, or I'd tell Ethan Phillips to tone it down a notch (Neelix's issues were likely bad writing, mind you, and I only offer Billingsley because Neelix should have been what Phlox was).

    The cast itself wasn't terrible. They just needed better writing.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,478 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    See, the writing is why I recast the way I did. The real problem with VOY was that the Executive Producers were Berman and Braga, and the line producer was Jeri Taylor. With a good production team, they could have made sure the writing was solid (as it was most of the time on DS9). At the very least, the reset button wouldn't have been hit every week - if it took some damage, it would have had to put in somewhere for repair.

    (Reportedly, what drove Moore away from VOY was when he kept track of lost shuttles and photon torpedoes, and submitted a script idea dealing with the question of resupply. It was rejected by B&B with the statement that "This is Star Trek - we don't worry about such things." It's said that nBSG's obsession with supplies stems from this.)
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  • aiurdaeaiurdae Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I would like to see how it worked out with Nicholas Cage as the captain. Cross dressing Nic Cage of course. "Species 8472! They're SCRAPIN' AT DAH DOOOAAAH!"
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    See, the writing is why I recast the way I did. The real problem with VOY was that the Executive Producers were Berman and Braga, and the line producer was Jeri Taylor. With a good production team, they could have made sure the writing was solid (as it was most of the time on DS9). At the very least, the reset button wouldn't have been hit every week - if it took some damage, it would have had to put in somewhere for repair.

    (Reportedly, what drove Moore away from VOY was when he kept track of lost shuttles and photon torpedoes, and submitted a script idea dealing with the question of resupply. It was rejected by B&B with the statement that "This is Star Trek - we don't worry about such things." It's said that nBSG's obsession with supplies stems from this.)

    Add to that that Taylor was more concerned with her Sue, Janeway, than with the rest of the cast or the show, to the point of ruining characters like Torres by making them Janeway thralls.

    And of course B&B thought that their viewers were horny adolescent morons. Which is frankly insulting.
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    See, the writing is why I recast the way I did. The real problem with VOY was that the Executive Producers were Berman and Braga, and the line producer was Jeri Taylor. With a good production team, they could have made sure the writing was solid (as it was most of the time on DS9). At the very least, the reset button wouldn't have been hit every week - if it took some damage, it would have had to put in somewhere for repair.

    (Reportedly, what drove Moore away from VOY was when he kept track of lost shuttles and photon torpedoes, and submitted a script idea dealing with the question of resupply. It was rejected by B&B with the statement that "This is Star Trek - we don't worry about such things." It's said that nBSG's obsession with supplies stems from this.)

    Yep, and Moore only stayed for 3 episodes, right?

    It's why Brannon Braga should be banned from the franchise (from a production standpoint), IMO. I'm glad Ira Behr crapped all over ENT, when B&B were looking for a savior. Berman is just a Hollywood guy, and Braga is inept.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited March 2015
    worffan101 wrote: »
    And of course B&B thought that their viewers were horny adolescent morons. Which is frankly insulting.

    Hey, I was in middle school when Jeri Ryan showed up in that silver catsuit, LOL... :P :D
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lessley00 wrote: »
    Chakotay: Henry from Longmire (I dont know the dudes name)

    Lou Diamond Phillips?

    Janeway: (Jenny Shepard) Lauren Holly - Trainwreck Incoming!!!
    Chakotay: (Leroy Gibbs) Mark Harmon - Logical, quiet and full of mystery.
    Paris: (G. Callen) Chris O'Donnel - Crazy, a past that haunts him, always looking to prove himself.
    Torres: (Meredith Brody) Zoe McLellen - Fiesty, not always in control, confused about her past, has to learn and earn her respect.
    Kim: (Dominic Vail) Adam Craig - luminestent greenhorn, acted green but slowly started growing into the role.
    Neelix: (Antony Dinozzo) Michael Weatherly - self evident; self concious, self absorbed, always prying in other peoples lives, but also selfless and capable of great heroics.
    Kes: (Eleanor Bishop) Emily Wickersham - Hyper intelligent, pretty to look at, stand off-ish but very capable.
    Doctor: (Nate Getz) Peter Cambor - Reads people through experience and learning, still trying to find his place, still trying to help, protect and heal those closest to him.
    Tuvok: (Leon Vance) Rocky Carroll - Logical, stand up, never backs away from a fight to protect those he serves, but also just as willing to disregard some things in prove a point. a murky past.
    7 of 9: (Ziva David) Cote de Pablo - a woman from another place, learns how to fit into a strange place but more often then not, ends up getting frustrated at times. eventually learning to fit in. a heavy past drives her to do better.
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Who to choose as my victims. Let's see, lets see.

    Janeway: (Would leave as is.) Qiu Yuen.
    Chakotay: Patrick Warburton. (Not sure why.)
    Torres: Jada Smith.
    Paris: Tim Allen.
    Kim: Joo Won
    Neelix: Gilbert Gottfried.
    Kes: Kate Ashfield.
    Doctor: (Would really leave as is.) Tony Shalhoub.
    Tuvok: (Same as doctor. Would really leave as is.) Tommy Lister
    7 of 9: Milla Jovovich?

    In the end, it doesn't matter. Let by gones be by gones.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Win. :D

    If anything should get struck from canon... and I already have, in my mind.

    Well if SFdebris' hypothesis that Archer was struck from all history after his reign the entire Federation just likes to pretend he never existed, and possibly the Klingon Empire as well might feel the same way.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You can hire the finest actors today to refill those VOY roles. It wouldn't stop it from sucking if the stories and script were still the same as before. The basic premise of Voyager was great, IMO, but they never truly embraced that theme. I never thought they seemed isolated, desperate for supplies and repairs. Everything was always as good as new.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The cast did the best they could with the script, though having Voyager shown in a constantly damaged state would have been nice
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    • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
      edited March 2015
      worffan101 wrote: »
      Not as bad as Enterprise...

      Nah, Voyager killed Trek; Enterprise just failed in the resuscitation attempt. :D

      I mean, you have a series that is about a crew desperately trying to get home, leaving carnage behind them but never suffering an apparent harm themselves.

      Then you have another about a crew going forwards into an unknown galaxy, forging alliances, and having to deal with the consequences of their actions later (esp. in S3).

      Personal perspective, I turned off ST after DS9 finished but ENT got me back in. That probably makes me some sort of freak though.:P
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