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meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
Hmm, been doing Tau Dewa patrols again just now, after realizing the Red Alert there paid out 1,200 Dilithium. And 720 for every patrol in the system. Plus like 7,000 XP each.

Now, I know it's XP Weekend, so I get the high XP. But is the Dilithium reward right? I rather ask, then face being called an exploiter again, later on.

If it's all legit, then kudos on you for keeping your word, and actually buffing XP and Dilithium rewards elsewhere, outside Argala!
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    720 per patrol, Interesting thats got to be a bug, its paying the same as a Advanced STF.
    Hope it isn't but you never can tell with this game.

    I thought it'd end up being something like 240 per patrol
  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dunno about the red alerts but I thought the patrols were supposed to be 480
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Any word on this yet, Mr. Rivera? I'm not so naive as to actually hold my breath, waiting for a Dev reply. :) But let the record show that I *did* ask in public, twice.

    And now I'm going to grind the living daylights out of Tau Dewa!
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    And now I'm going to grind the living daylights out of Tau Dewa!

    I could have sworn I've heard that before.....when was that?

    oh well....can't remember ....have fun ;)
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I could have sworn I've heard that before.....when was that?

    oh well....can't remember ....have fun ;)

    Last time people grinded Tau Dewa they were called exploiters afterwards. So, I'm asking the lead Dev here, straight up. Can't really make it more fair on my end. If no Dev comes in, saying "OMG! That was totally unintended!", then I'm just going to assume it's how they meant it to be.
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  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wait, the red alerts work?
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wait, the red alerts work?

    actually from what I've seen the red alerts were fixed weeks ago, no one noticed
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wait, the red alerts work?

    I was talking about the 'mission-wrapper' Red Alert, with Assimilated Tholians. That works just fine.
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  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Any word on this yet, Mr. Rivera? I'm not so naive as to actually hold my breath, waiting for a Dev reply. :) But let the record show that I *did* ask in public, twice.

    And now I'm going to grind the living daylights out of Tau Dewa!

    Eat your cookies while they are hot for tomorrow even the crumbs will be too hard to swallow. :P
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    it is kinda weird the rom patrols awarding more dil than deltas, then again whats the point in doing the patrol daily when you can get the daily bonus for doing just one patrol?
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I can hear it now...


    DUM DUM.... DUM DUM DUM.... DUm DUN DA DA DUM DUM DADA


    The Tau Dewa Nerfshark is coming!

    This time, it's personal!
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  • imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Just ran Japori... Not only did I receive the 720 dilithium mentioned, I also received about 7k Specialisation XP as a completion reward also...

    Can we get an answer on whether this is intended, or a bug... Before being declared an exploit?


    ADDENDUM :

    After running an Acamar patrol, 480 dilithium and 5.3k Spec Points on completion... It would seem that not all patrols are potentially 'over rewarding'...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited February 2015
    some of the patrols pay out 5400 xp and 480 dil

    It cant be a error , has to be a feature ,no company would have such poor QC as to have it wrong in the same place 2x in a row

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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    720 per patrol, Interesting thats got to be a bug, its paying the same as a Advanced STF.
    Hope it isn't but you never can tell with this game.

    I thought it'd end up being something like 240 per patrol

    True but I’m under the impression cryptic prefers you to play erm.. grind contend solo so I claim its possible. :o
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  • shandypandyshandypandy Member Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Didn't some dev when it was brought up they were adding xp and dil to out-of-delta patrol missions say they were also normalising based on length of mission or summat?
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  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I knew that people would complain that it's too much dil for them. I just knew it lol.
    Of course they knew how much dilithium patrol missions give now they have put them there.
    But by all means complain more that its too much lol.

    If you read patch notes it clearly says that not all patrols give the same dil/xp
  • giohaxgiohax Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wait, you're so dumb to think geko will actually answer? ahaha
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If it is paying out that much, isn't it possible it is just the Bonus Weekend multiplier kicking in?

    Also, didn't one of the Devs post something about rewards being normalized based on time spent doing a mission?

    I fully expect they screwed this up. Again. Quality Control has never been a high priority with Cryptic. Far easier to just blame players for exploiting than to admit publicly an error was made by them.
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  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If it is paying out that much, isn't it possible it is just the Bonus Weekend multiplier kicking in?

    Also, didn't one of the Devs post something about rewards being normalized based on time spent doing a mission?

    I fully expect they screwed this up. Again. Quality Control has never been a high priority with Cryptic. Far easier to just blame players for exploiting than to admit publicly an error was made by them.

    wait, so 720 dil is "so much" now? you can do CCA and ISA quicker then most patrols and get 2000dil in 2minutes. lets nerf that too?
  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    We aren't complaining that its paying out to much, shocked is all and concerned that if used to the max, we don't have the same situation as when they called players who used Tau Dewa Patrols explioters and rolled back accounts. Then decided no you weren't and gave some spec points back.

    This Thread is more about making sure it is paying out correctly so we don't have that situation again.
  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    We aren't complaining that its paying out to much, shocked is all and concerned that if used to the max, we don't have the same situation as when they called players who used Tau Dewa Patrols explioters and rolled back accounts. Then decided no you weren't and gave some spec points back.

    This Thread is more about making sure it is paying out correctly so we don't have that situation again.

    What's with that hostage mentality?
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    We aren't complaining that its paying out to much, shocked is all and concerned that if used to the max, we don't have the same situation as when they called players who used Tau Dewa Patrols explioters and rolled back accounts. Then decided no you weren't and gave some spec points back.

    This Thread is more about making sure it is paying out correctly so we don't have that situation again.

    Zactly!

    Simple matter of asking for clarification.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    imruined wrote: »
    Just ran Japori... Not only did I receive the 720 dilithium mentioned, I also received about 7k Specialisation XP as a completion reward also...

    Can we get an answer on whether this is intended, or a bug... Before being declared an exploit?


    ADDENDUM :

    After running an Acamar patrol, 480 dilithium and 5.3k Spec Points on completion... It would seem that not all patrols are potentially 'over rewarding'...


    Not all systems in Tau Dewa are playable, as you know, so I didn't try em all. I just ran the Japori, Carraya, and Beta Thoridar triangle. All those 3 pay out 720 Dilithium.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    We aren't complaining that its paying out to much, shocked is all and concerned that if used to the max, we don't have the same situation as when they called players who used Tau Dewa Patrols explioters and rolled back accounts. Then decided no you weren't and gave some spec points back.

    This Thread is more about making sure it is paying out correctly so we don't have that situation again.
    sharxtreme wrote: »
    What's with that hostage mentality?

    In case you missed it:

    Back when DR first launched with all these lovely specilization points, it was found that one could fly through the earning of said points, to the tune of almost 17x as fast as "normal", by hanging out in Tau Dewa, mostly Japori system, repeating the content as fast as your team could.

    Due to silence from the Devs on such basic matters as "base earning rates", the playerbase naturally believed that if it was still live on Holodeck, the Devs "intended" for those payout rates and players did what players do, play.

    The first words out of the Dev team on this issue was that said inflated earnings rate was an "exploit", and they brought out the nerf hammer, not only nerfing the earning rate, but nerfing the already earned XP. If you hang around the forums at even the most casual rate during the actual launch of DR, you couldn't miss the effects of this maneuver on the community. Search-fu might still find the embers of that... solar flare(?) - was much higher than just a measly volcanic eruption...

    With continued silence from the Devs on said base earning rates, etc., many of the playerbase, myself included, are in a state of "shellshock" - find anything that's "too good to be true"? Better confirm that it is, 100%, WAI - because if it isn't and you're found to have used it, you can suffer random consequences later. Some may say that being listed as "exposed" to the "outlying payout" can get you busted just as if you actually used it...
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  • nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Hmm, been doing Tau Dewa patrols again just now, after realizing the Red Alert there paid out 1,200 Dilithium. And 720 for every patrol in the system. Plus like 7,000 XP each.

    Now, I know it's XP Weekend, so I get the high XP. But is the Dilithium reward right? I rather ask, then face being called an exploiter again, later on.

    If it's all legit, then kudos on you for keeping your word, and actually buffing XP and Dilithium rewards elsewhere, outside Argala!

    you are playing on advanced lvl. maybe?
  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I guess the devs weren't kidding about "rewards based on time spent"

    I've noticed patrols on the DQ seem to vary from 3k exp and 360 dil to 6k exp and 720 dil, usually with the longer more complicated patrols rewarding more than the shorter ones

    still don't understand why argala rewards so little by comparison...seems to me its no different for a typical tau dewa :confused:
  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sharxtreme wrote: »
    What's with that hostage mentality?

    What hostage mentality. Thread creator wanted clarification on whether the reward was WAI.
    My last post was in defense to that as someone else mentioned about people complaining about the rewards.
    I'm saying its not about complaining about the rewards its nice to have that reward but if you were here when DR 1st launched and i recognise the name, so you prolly were, Before we play the content, earn the rewards we want to make sure we don't have another Japori

    Cryptic's track record of late, esp the Q&C work and lack of communication does lead to doubt in ones mind whether this is correct.

    720 for a 2 min or less mob kill, right on i'll take it But i need to know this is WAI as it appears way to good to be true.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nesomumi2 wrote: »
    you are playing on advanced lvl. maybe?

    No, just were just on Normal. I busted my TRIBBLE once, at DS9, grinding the 'Shutdown' mission on Elite, only to be called an exploiter later. So, these I just did on Normal.

    P.S. Never actually played Japori before (that I can recall). I should have known about it, the last time, LOL; this patrol is a less than 1 minute effort. And there I was, doing the 'Shutdown' mission on Elite, with very annoying multiple Feedback Pulses, only to be called an exploiter later. Man, now I get why folks were doing Japori! :)
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    What hostage mentality. Thread creator wanted clarification on whether the reward was WAI.

    720 for a 2 min or less mob kill, right on i'll take it But i need to know this is WAI as it appears way to good to be true.


    Yeah, what 'hostage mentality'?!

    Apparently replying to us seems too much of a bother. And, like I said, I'm fine with that. But I'm going to Tau Dewa today, and not feel guilty any more. I asked for clarification, repeatedly, and they choose to ignore it. Which, like I said, if fine; but, again, let the record show that several of us really *did* ask for clarification. So, no funky 'exploiter' business later on, please.
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